Members curseoftruth Posted December 3, 2006 Members Share Posted December 3, 2006 I've read tons of the threads, have played a number of them but wanted to get some additional opinion. Here are some requirements: Must be a tube ampMust be no more than 30-40 wattsShould have a speaker cab extensionCombo ampChannel switchableMust do killer cleans and dirty up niceGreat, throaty blues tone with P90s a mustLess than $700.00 (prefer under $600 and don't say save and get x and x)Let's pretend this is for a new amp at this pointI don't want to build it Looking at: Peavey Classic 30Fender Hot Rod DeluxeFender Blues DeluxeEpiphone Blues Custom 30Vox AC15CCVox AC30CC with Neodog speaker ($699) Any other Fenders in this range I should consider? Anything else? I am pretty un-educated about Fender amps other than the expensive ones I play at GC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members caveman Posted December 3, 2006 Members Share Posted December 3, 2006 I really like my Blues Deluxe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members frankencat Posted December 3, 2006 Members Share Posted December 3, 2006 For just a little bit more this is a killer amp that does exactly what you describe...http://acapella.harmony-central.com/showthread.php?threadid=1447727 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members HRM Posted December 3, 2006 Members Share Posted December 3, 2006 Out of that list, personally (remember this stuff is all subjective), I'd go with the Peavey Classic 30. I'd also like to humbly suggest the Crate V-Series - I believe they're called the Palominos in the States...? The ones I've heard sounded great for blues, and they tend to run a little cheaper due to, well, being Crates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members curseoftruth Posted December 3, 2006 Author Members Share Posted December 3, 2006 I should have added that I left Crates off the list. I've played the Palomino series (several different wattages) and didn't really like them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members utterhack Posted December 3, 2006 Members Share Posted December 3, 2006 The AC30CC likes P90s, and just generally sounds great imho. Gorgeous, chimey cleans and raunchy drive tones. The switchable/blendable normal channel adds a lot. Hot Rod does great cleans. And, um... the less clean it gets, the less great it gets. Not a strong play unless you plan to either play very, very loud or invest in a few good drive pedals to go with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members curseoftruth Posted December 3, 2006 Author Members Share Posted December 3, 2006 I'll be using a variety of pedals as needed -- notably a TS9 for overdrive, some fuzz perhaps. I have a gizzilion pedals and will experiment massively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Burningleaves Posted December 3, 2006 Members Share Posted December 3, 2006 I dont know if I would say it has a "killer" clean tone but the PV classic 30 you had in your list is worth a try. They go on the cheap side used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mattoverb Posted December 3, 2006 Members Share Posted December 3, 2006 Ampeg reverberocketAmpeg super jet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members curseoftruth Posted December 3, 2006 Author Members Share Posted December 3, 2006 Originally posted by mattoverb Ampeg reverberocketAmpeg super jet Thanks for the reminder on those! I forgot about the Ampeg guitar amps. I own an SVT bass amp and it rules. Forgot about Traynor's as well... Oh the decisions to be made! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Burningleaves Posted December 3, 2006 Members Share Posted December 3, 2006 Originally posted by mattoverb Ampeg reverberocketAmpeg super jet I have a Reverberocket from the early 60's. Sounds too cool when cranked:thu: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members caveman Posted December 3, 2006 Members Share Posted December 3, 2006 Originally posted by mattoverb Ampeg reverberocketAmpeg super jet Yep, I would suggest the 212R. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members brave_ulysses Posted December 3, 2006 Members Share Posted December 3, 2006 The Hot Rod Deluxe has a great clean channel and reverb, but the overdrive sucks ass. I'd stay away from it unless you want to spend 200 dollars upgrading the speaker and tubes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members frankencat Posted December 3, 2006 Members Share Posted December 3, 2006 The Ampeg R12R Reverberocket II's are great sounding amps. I used to have one and loved it. I would grab another one of those before a Classic 30 or a Hot Rod Deluxe which I have also had. They are about the same build quality. I have also heard good things about the new Kustom Coupe series but have yet to see or play one. I gotta be honest though, the Fender Supersonic rips all of these amp big time but it is a bit more expensive - well worth it though IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members metallica_00 Posted December 3, 2006 Members Share Posted December 3, 2006 Originally posted by curseoftruth Channel switchable Out of curiosity, why limit yourself to channel switching amps in this case? Because there are alot of non-channel switchers that are good for these kinds of music at that amp size. Two overdrive pedals (or even one really) and a single channel amp (or non-channel switcher) will produce some awesome tones. I'm looking for an amp with fairly similar intentions to replace my Recto once I sell it...I've been thinking about a used Deluxe Reverb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Alchemist Posted December 3, 2006 Members Share Posted December 3, 2006 Traynor YCV15/20/40/50 would all work nicely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Gochaz Posted December 3, 2006 Members Share Posted December 3, 2006 I'd reccomend the AC30CC. Really, really good tone, especially with P90s. One thing I will say though is there's no footswitchable channel switching without an AB box. There're two seperate inputs for "Top Boost" and "Normal", and to switch you must put the amp on standby, swap your lead over then then flick the standby switch again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members brave_ulysses Posted December 3, 2006 Members Share Posted December 3, 2006 Originally posted by Alchemist Traynor YCV15/20/40/50 would all work nicely. I'm really interested in these amps. Do you own one? Thinking of getting the 20 or 40 to replace my hot rod deluxe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members CAC Posted December 3, 2006 Members Share Posted December 3, 2006 Traynor for sure. I know you said no more than 40 watts, but my favorite Traynor is the YCV 50. It has a great master volume and sounds quite good at lower volumes. If amp overdrive is important to you I think it is the best of the Traynor line, although the 40 watter is good to. For a cheap tube amp, you won't go wrong with either of these models. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ebidis Posted December 3, 2006 Members Share Posted December 3, 2006 love the blues deluxe. I have had one for 10 yearsand never had a problem with it. excelent clean, not crazy about the over drive chanel, but that is subjective. I run mine on the clean chanel and use pedals and can get some great tones, one thing though, this amp is LOUD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Alchemist Posted December 4, 2006 Members Share Posted December 4, 2006 Originally posted by brave_ulysses I'm really interested in these amps. Do you own one? Thinking of getting the 20 or 40 to replace my hot rod deluxe. I've got a limited edition 40 that I am eventually replacing with another blackface fender. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members curseoftruth Posted December 4, 2006 Author Members Share Posted December 4, 2006 Channel switching probably isn't a deal killer at all, I'm just used to something that does. Volume isn't an issue either, I like to play loud -- and I usually play a Marshall DSL100 half-stack. Why I am looking for a lower wattage amp that does clean tones well and as mentioned, probably a TS9 will be my OD. I've got the big gain channel monster already. Good suggestions! On the Vox, I love the clean and have played many -- but not run the OD in front of them and not really gotten into trying to pull blues tones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members garyfanclub Posted December 4, 2006 Members Share Posted December 4, 2006 why don't you just get a reverb pedal and slam your DSL's clean channel with a treble booster? That'll run you... $150 for both pedals. I don't see why you need a "blues" amp, wasn't 99.9% of 60's British blues-rock done with overdriven Marshalls? maybe i'm just cheap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jjpistols Posted December 4, 2006 Members Share Posted December 4, 2006 if you can find them, Laney makes some cool amps THD UniValve might be worth looking at - seen them used for well under $700, new is slightly more I believe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members curseoftruth Posted December 4, 2006 Author Members Share Posted December 4, 2006 The cleans on the DSL are not that great, really dirty which is fine for some of what I play. Its a gain beast for sure and covers most of what I do pretty well. Plus, its not practicle for just picking up and taking to a jam, which is kind of what I am looking to do more. Lugging the big beast around is a bitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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