Members Khronos Posted May 2, 2008 Members Share Posted May 2, 2008 So i heard that you can no longer buy guitars with brazillian rosewood, at least from PRS.. Anyone else heard this?Apparently you can not get new Modern eagles, santanas, artist upgrades, 513 rosewoods etc. Only what stores have on their walls and then no more... Anyone...Anything... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members CompleteGuitard Posted May 2, 2008 Members Share Posted May 2, 2008 You can always buy used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Ratae Corieltauvorum Posted May 2, 2008 Moderators Share Posted May 2, 2008 Also, why would it matter:wave: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tp4mybunghol Posted May 2, 2008 Members Share Posted May 2, 2008 I heard that they were doing a limited run of Brazilian mccartys and they couldn't finish the run cause they ran out of Brazilian rosewood. The used ones will probably go up in value Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rick 381 Posted May 2, 2008 Members Share Posted May 2, 2008 Brazilian rosewood is an endangered species and is illegal to import into this country is the way it was explained to me. Every so often a stash is found somewhere and a short run of guitars is done but even that will get rarer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Splashproof Posted May 2, 2008 Members Share Posted May 2, 2008 Tokai are still using Brazilian Rosewood, ( aka Jacarand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members golias Posted May 2, 2008 Members Share Posted May 2, 2008 Brazilian rosewood is an endangered species and is illegal to import into this country is the way it was explained to me. Every so often a stash is found somewhere and a short run of guitars is done but even that will get rarer. Hmmm... Sounds like a Brazilian Rosewood farm might be a good investment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Splashproof Posted May 2, 2008 Members Share Posted May 2, 2008 Hmmm... Sounds like a Brazilian Rosewood farm might be a good investment. I might be going to Montana. Pick me up some Rosewood plants Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RaVenCAD Posted May 2, 2008 Members Share Posted May 2, 2008 I might be going to Montana.Pick me up some Rosewood plants Ok, but it won't be brazillian rosewood unfortunately, and you won't really be able to harvest the ones that people want for about 50-100 years.. Decent retirement money, if yer not dead.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Andrewrg Posted May 2, 2008 Members Share Posted May 2, 2008 Tokai are still using Brazilian Rosewood, ( aka Jacarand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Splashproof Posted May 2, 2008 Members Share Posted May 2, 2008 Jacaranda mimosifolia is a different species and is not Brazilian rosewood (Dalbergia nigra) despite its similarity. The Bahia Rosewood, Brazilian Rosewood, Rio Rosewood, Jacarand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mygal Posted May 2, 2008 Members Share Posted May 2, 2008 hmmm, and they still display the models that have been discontinued on their website... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Andrewrg Posted May 2, 2008 Members Share Posted May 2, 2008 The Bahia Rosewood, Brazilian Rosewood, Rio Rosewood, Jacarand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ~Abstract~ Posted May 2, 2008 Members Share Posted May 2, 2008 Why can't Dalbergia nigra be grown in another country? Would it still be "Brazilian" Rosewood if it's grown in Honduras? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RaVenCAD Posted May 2, 2008 Members Share Posted May 2, 2008 Like I said Dalbergia nigra is the species traditionally used for backs, sides and fingerboards and it is this species which is banned for use under CITES regulations. All the other woods might call themselves Brazilian rosewood because they grow in the region but most assuredly are not Dalbergia.A problem arises where similar woods assume various names depending on who you are speaking to; for example in Britain Jacaranda is sometimes called Rio but elsewhere Rio is commonly used for Dalbergia leading to much confusion. What gets me is that people think there is more than a 2 or 3 % difference in these woods.. It's simply a matter of prestige from a structural, functional perspective. Yes, some are visually superior, but they sound amazingly similar unless yer talking about an acoustic.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Splashproof Posted May 2, 2008 Members Share Posted May 2, 2008 It's all wood. Let's not form a splinter group. I think someone on here nailed it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Andrewrg Posted May 2, 2008 Members Share Posted May 2, 2008 What gets me is that people think there is more than a 2 or 3 % difference in these woods.. It's simply a matter of prestige from a structural, functional perspective. Yes, some are visually superior, but they sound amazingly similar unless yer talking about an acoustic.. Exactly right; over on the Les Paul forum they go ape{censored} over the few guitars fitted with Braz fingerboards a couple of years ago like they were the holy grail. With acoustics Braz is like any other tonewood; you get great sounding sets and crap sounding sets with no guarantee that, just because it's Braz, it's going to have some magic quality-especially with the rubbish, swirly-grained stumpwood you see nowdays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Large Posted May 2, 2008 Members Share Posted May 2, 2008 omg brazil sucks only usa wood is good enough for me!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members fmw Posted May 2, 2008 Members Share Posted May 2, 2008 Ebony makes a fine fingerboard. So does American hard maple for that matter. Perhaps they can start making some acoustics with maple bodies instead of rosewood. That should have a nice snappy tone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Musicscotty Posted May 2, 2008 Members Share Posted May 2, 2008 It's all wood. Let's not form a splinter group.I think someone on here nailed it. Boom BoomThis thread was branching out in so many directions,that it almost had me stumped for a minute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Musicscotty Posted May 2, 2008 Members Share Posted May 2, 2008 Ebony makes a fine fingerboard. So does American hard maple for that matter. Perhaps they can start making some acoustics with maple bodies instead of rosewood. That should have a nice snappy tone.I think you'd end up with a tone that only dogs 2 miles away would hear ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Angry Grimace Posted May 2, 2008 Members Share Posted May 2, 2008 There's more now than there was about 5 years ago. That said, it comes and goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members fabstrat Posted May 2, 2008 Members Share Posted May 2, 2008 supposedly right now they only use trees that have fallen, but other than it looking nice ive heard its harder than indian roosewood which leads to easier playing and is a little bit brighter so it mixes maple and roosewood together in a sense....pretty cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SteelyD2 Posted May 2, 2008 Members Share Posted May 2, 2008 Ebony makes a fine fingerboard. So does American hard maple for that matter. Perhaps they can start making some acoustics with maple bodies instead of rosewood. That should have a nice snappy tone. There are lots of examples of maple-bodied acoustics. I used to have a nice little 70s vintage Alvarez with flame maple back and sides and Gibson has made lots of maple-bodied Jumbos. D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ~Abstract~ Posted May 2, 2008 Members Share Posted May 2, 2008 There are lots of examples of maple-bodied acoustics. I used to have a nice little 70s vintage Alvarez with flame maple back and sides and Gibson has made lots of maple-bodied Jumbos.D And I've never heard one I really cared for. Rosewood>Mahogany>Maple. YMMV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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