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Why Did John Lennon Have Such Lousy Guitar Amp Tones?

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  • Why Did John Lennon Have Such Lousy Guitar Amp Tones?

    It's almost as if John fell in love with the sound the very first budget amp he ever owned and continued to chase that tone for the rest of his life. Also, I'm guessing none of the engineers or experts around him were going to tell him that his tone was anything less than glorious.

    I'm not trying to put him down as an artist. I respect his talent. I've always considered him a great song writer including a lot of his solo work after the Beatles. I like his voice. Obviously, he can play the guitar. Yet, somehow, he's managed to get some of the worst sounds I've ever heard from a guitar amp.
    I don't give a d.a.m.n about hypes, fanclubs or tonal religions. All I care about is what works for me.<br><br>&quot;...it's not religion that's the problem, but any system of thought that insists that one group of people are inviolably in the right, whereas the others are in the wrong and must somehow be punished.&quot; ~ Rod Liddle<br><br><a target="_blank" href="http://www.soundclick.com/bands/default.cfm?bandID=631095&amp;content=music">JROCK BRIDGE MUSIC</a>

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    Guess you just dont like that cranked P90 tone.
    Cant be that lousey if he sold as many albums as he did.
    I'm not a huge fan of cranked P90's either but I do recognize its what made his sound and many love that tone.

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    • #3
      He used Vox? :P
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      • #4
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        • #5
          He's a very hard strummer and plays with a lot of force. It might have nothing to do with gear, you might just hate his style of playing.
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          • #6

            Sounds ok to me.
            He liked to experiment.

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            • #7
              He didn't really care all that much about guitar, he mostly learned it so he could back himself when he was singing. The tones he had worked well enough for what he did.

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              • #8
                Cant be that lousey if he sold as many albums as he did.
                If you dont like the tone, you can at least recognize its unique.
                I'm not a huge fan of the P90 tone cranked myself but allot of guitarists on this forum love it.


                I'm a P90 fan. Also, I like Vox amps.

                I realize that the whole topic of tone is a bit subjective. Obviously, his tones couldn't have been so terrible as to frighten off the public at large. But, these days, when I listen to his recordings, I can't help but wonder why he wasn't getting better sounds.

                Also, you do bring up a good point about it sounding unique. It doesn't really sound like anybody else.
                I don't give a d.a.m.n about hypes, fanclubs or tonal religions. All I care about is what works for me.<br><br>&quot;...it's not religion that's the problem, but any system of thought that insists that one group of people are inviolably in the right, whereas the others are in the wrong and must somehow be punished.&quot; ~ Rod Liddle<br><br><a target="_blank" href="http://www.soundclick.com/bands/default.cfm?bandID=631095&amp;content=music">JROCK BRIDGE MUSIC</a>

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                • #9
                  All these posts and no mention of Yoko's tones? I don't know if I'm proud or ashamed of you guys. Wait, I'll go with indifferent.
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                  • #10
                    All these posts and no mention of Yoko's tones? I don't know if I'm proud or ashamed of you guys. Wait, I'll go with indifferent.


                    Apathy helped bring down the Roman Empire.
                    I don't give a d.a.m.n about hypes, fanclubs or tonal religions. All I care about is what works for me.<br><br>&quot;...it's not religion that's the problem, but any system of thought that insists that one group of people are inviolably in the right, whereas the others are in the wrong and must somehow be punished.&quot; ~ Rod Liddle<br><br><a target="_blank" href="http://www.soundclick.com/bands/default.cfm?bandID=631095&amp;content=music">JROCK BRIDGE MUSIC</a>

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                    • #11
                      IMO, most guitars were too thin and treble-y for my taste back then. I think its just the way the gear was
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                      • #12
                        Lennon's sound did what it was supposed to do, fill the mids while Harrison got sparkly. He got some great tones, too. The jazz guitar solo in Honey Pie was him, and the last lick in The End is impossible to get right.
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                        • #13
                          ...cause he sucked?
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                            Apathy helped bring down the Roman Empire.





                            Like I care.
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                            • #15
                              Perhaps, this is a lesson....Song writing trumps tone.

                              Like I care.


                              Your continued indifference is duly noted.
                              I don't give a d.a.m.n about hypes, fanclubs or tonal religions. All I care about is what works for me.<br><br>&quot;...it's not religion that's the problem, but any system of thought that insists that one group of people are inviolably in the right, whereas the others are in the wrong and must somehow be punished.&quot; ~ Rod Liddle<br><br><a target="_blank" href="http://www.soundclick.com/bands/default.cfm?bandID=631095&amp;content=music">JROCK BRIDGE MUSIC</a>

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