Members enuenu Posted January 27, 2012 Members Share Posted January 27, 2012 My Explorer flubs out a bit through my Mesa DR. I want some evil downtuned riffage and some savage djent going on. I would also like to hear each note in high gain full chords. At the moment it is a mushburger. A pickup change is in order. Was thinking of EMG 81/85 set as they seem to cut well and decent $ value. However I have to go passive as I have no interest in routing the body to fit a battery in. Maybe a passive EMG set can go evil? Bare Knuckle recommended a Miracle Man ceramic set to overcome the darkness of the mahogany Explorer and loose nature of the Recto. What about DiMarzio? The Liquifire/Crunch Lab is widely used. Some say this set would not overcome my problem with mud. Any other DiMazios do the trick you think? Their range is big and I wouldn't know where to start. Their online "Pickup Picker" tool recomended the D-Activator in bridge and Humbucker From Hell in neck. Maybe a D-Activator set for metal LPs? Like the EMGs, they are a lot cheaper than the BKPs which is a big factor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Ratae Corieltauvorum Posted January 27, 2012 Moderators Share Posted January 27, 2012 The D-Activators would seem to be your guys, although BKP's Painkillers would also do the job, but yes, I have yet to swallow the pill of retail price BKPs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ArmyGuitar Posted January 27, 2012 Members Share Posted January 27, 2012 Some good winders out there that could get you what you wanted, BG, MHD, etc.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Ratae Corieltauvorum Posted January 27, 2012 Moderators Share Posted January 27, 2012 Some good winders out there that could get you what you wanted, BG, MHD, etc.... BG could do you a set of his Hellabuckers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ArmyGuitar Posted January 27, 2012 Members Share Posted January 27, 2012 I have a Hellabucker/Smokestack set in B/W Zebra I dont have a need for right now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members enuenu Posted January 27, 2012 Author Members Share Posted January 27, 2012 Some good winders out there that could get you what you wanted, BG, MHD, etc.... Those BGs look like real value. Can't find a Webpage for MHD that lays out their range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members enuenu Posted January 27, 2012 Author Members Share Posted January 27, 2012 I have a Hellabucker/Smokestack set in B/W Zebra I dont have a need for right now Thanks man. Note I'm in Oz. PM me with $ you want? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Spike Li Posted January 27, 2012 Members Share Posted January 27, 2012 Im not a fan of the Duncan JB, although I have found it to be excellent for downtunings because its so trebely- but it doesnt have that note seperation youre looking for. I would personally use a Gibson 498T for what you are describing. Great note separation but its still hot enough for the metalz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ArmyGuitar Posted January 27, 2012 Members Share Posted January 27, 2012 Thanks man. Note I'm in Oz. PM me with $ you want? mhd-pickups.com for MHD and Ill PM you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members enuenu Posted January 27, 2012 Author Members Share Posted January 27, 2012 Im not a fan of the Duncan JB, although I have found it to be excellent for downtunings because its so trebely- but it doesnt have that note seperation youre looking for. I would personally use a Gibson 498T for what you are describing. Great note separation but its still hot enough for the metalz Thanks. I never thought of putting a Gibson pup in a Gibson guitar (not being sarcastic, just went past the obvious) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SorrowAblaze Posted January 27, 2012 Members Share Posted January 27, 2012 A friend of mine used to have a '80s explorer with a kahler trem, he had EMG 85s in both positions; this is still the most aggressive guitar I've ever played - it just sounded mean! I'm guessing a lot of that had to do with the big body, it was really resonate acoustically. If this din't have the typical tiny Gibson frets it would be my favorite guitar I'd ever played. So yeah - give the EMGs a shot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GAS Man Posted January 27, 2012 Members Share Posted January 27, 2012 Did I miss where you stated what p'ups are in there now? But I would also think ceramics would be good. The EQ tends to be rather flat and the tone is fairly tight and a bit more neutral which is a good compliment for high gain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members kit_strong Posted January 27, 2012 Members Share Posted January 27, 2012 Lace DeathBucker Alumitones or Lace Dirty Heshers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Joby1knobi Posted January 27, 2012 Members Share Posted January 27, 2012 Was thinking of EMG 81/85 set as they seem to cut well and decent $ value. However I have to go passive as I have no interest in routing the body to fit a battery in. If you want to go EMG, a 9 volt will fit in the control cavity of an Explorer, especially with those small EMG pots. No routing necessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members diceman1000 Posted January 27, 2012 Members Share Posted January 27, 2012 Ken at Rose Pickups could fix you up too. You can PM him on this forum, Rose Pickups, or check out his site and drop him an e-mail www.rosepickups.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Alecto Posted January 27, 2012 Members Share Posted January 27, 2012 If you want to go EMG, a 9 volt will fit in the control cavity of an Explorer, especially with those small EMG pots. No routing necessary. Yeah, I'd say the EMG 81/60 set. If it's good enough for James Hetfield . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members thecornman Posted January 27, 2012 Members Share Posted January 27, 2012 Dimarzio Steve's Special is great for hearing all the notes in full chords with gain! That is what they were marketed for. That in the bridge with a Humbucker From Hell in the neck is a great combo. The Humbucker From Hell is not a high gain pickup like the name would seem, but sounds wicked good in all applications. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TheIgnoramus Posted January 27, 2012 Members Share Posted January 27, 2012 One of my explorers has BG Hellabucker/Lizard. The other has a matched set of Motor City Afwayus. Both are excellent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members enuenu Posted January 28, 2012 Author Members Share Posted January 28, 2012 Thanks for all the suggestions If you want to go EMG, a 9 volt will fit in the control cavity of an Explorer, especially with those small EMG pots. No routing necessary.Thanks a lot, I thought wrong! I had done some Googling and found threads about routing an Explorer to get a battery in. I think EMGs come in some sort of solderless kit with new pots, so that would make things easy. Sometimes I wonder if I should save my money and put it towards a new amp The DR does some things really well (loose and dirty riffing), but seems a bit limited at times and quite undefined in high gain mode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members danswon Posted January 28, 2012 Members Share Posted January 28, 2012 i've read very good things about this in terms of clarity and output http://www.irongear.co.uk/irongear_024.htm also, people are saying these neodymium pickups are very clear (and extremely hot) http://www.entwistlepickups.com/pickup.php?puid=Dark+Star+ND Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GAS Man Posted January 28, 2012 Members Share Posted January 28, 2012 Has stock pickups. 500T in bridge and 496R in neck. Hmm, that surprised me a bit that you're having flabby flubby problems with those p'ups. Different amp or maybe in this case you could should consider a Jazz in the neck and JB in the bridge. Those are both very articulate p'ups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members danswon Posted January 28, 2012 Members Share Posted January 28, 2012 Hmm, that surprised me a bit that you're having flabby flubby problems with those p'ups. Different amp or maybe in this case you could should consider a Jazz in the neck and JB in the bridge. Those are both very articulate p'ups. yeah tbh if i couldn't get heavy sounds from an Explorer with the 500T/496R into a Mesa Dual Rectifier i'd consider giving up entirely. if i played proper hard heavy metal i'd kill to have that setup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members enuenu Posted January 28, 2012 Author Members Share Posted January 28, 2012 i've read very good things about this in terms of clarity and output http://www.irongear.co.uk/irongear_024.htm also, people are saying these neodymium pickups are very clear (and extremely hot) http://www.entwistlepickups.com/pickup.php?puid=Dark+Star+ND The prices on these are incredible (low) Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members enuenu Posted January 28, 2012 Author Members Share Posted January 28, 2012 yeah tbh if i couldn't get heavy sounds from an Explorer with the 500T/496R into a Mesa Dual Rectifier i'd consider giving up entirely. if i played proper hard heavy metal i'd kill to have that setupMaybe I'm just getting too picky. My LP sounds better than my Explorer though. Some say the Recto 4 x 12 cab mushes things out and therefore some go for a smaller Mesa cab for this reason. Just after more articulate high gain sounds if possible. Plus having fun tweaking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members danswon Posted January 28, 2012 Members Share Posted January 28, 2012 you can never have too much tweaking! well i've been reading that neodymium magnets are very clear/articulate.i know some don't like the 500T but i thought that was usually because it was too bright/harsh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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