Members JSutter Posted February 7, 2010 Members Share Posted February 7, 2010 Its amazing how much more effort Mesa puts into their cabs. Construction is top notch. Quality is the best I have seen yet. Unfortunately you cant see it in the pix, but the Mesa is completely sealed. The Peavey and Marshall have a 3" gap of wood missing on the sides where the back screws to. You can see the gap on the XXX cab at the top of the pic. Some of the not pictured differences: Jack plate: Peavey: Plastic, 2 jacks, mono/stereo switch with thick traces. Marshall: Plastic, 2 jacks, mono/stereo switch with thin traces that lead to failures. Mesa: Metal, 4 jacks: 1 mono, 2 stereo, 1 out. Wring: Peavey: Soldered to PCB, quick connects to speakers, 18 awg wire. Marshall: All quick connects, 18 awg wire. Mesa: All soldered, 18 awg wire. Casters: Peavey: Not removable Marshall: Removable with allen wrench, plastic socket/foot. Mesa: Removable with no tools, rubber feet installed. Handles: Peavey: Metal grip, plastic surround Marshall: Plastic (upgraded to metal in pix because they break) Mesa: Metal Funny thing the Mesa is $950 new and a 1960AV is also $950 new. Price on the XXX was $680 IIRC. Mesa Stiletto Traditional slant: Marshall 1960b straight: Peavey XXX slant: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members fretout Posted February 7, 2010 Members Share Posted February 7, 2010 Pretty cool Pics man. I agree, the Mesa cab I have has held up really well over the years. I have been considering changing out the V30s for C90s as of late, but for now, I have been really happy with the cab the way it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members primeholy Posted February 7, 2010 Members Share Posted February 7, 2010 Pretty cool Pics man. I agree, the Mesa cab I have has held up really well over the years. I have been considering changing out the V30s for C90s as of late, but for now, I have been really happy with the cab the way it is. Is you Mark a head or a combo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MrCompton Posted February 7, 2010 Members Share Posted February 7, 2010 It looks like a metal head designed the Mesa cab. It seems built to handle huge lows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members superflyinmonke Posted February 7, 2010 Members Share Posted February 7, 2010 I don't own or plan to own any of those, but I'm sure the Mesas are the best build. I've never been impressed by how they sound though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mikey383 Posted February 7, 2010 Members Share Posted February 7, 2010 Mesa cabs are top notch. Mine is almost 15 years old, and it's just as sturdy as a brand new one. The casters and plates are plenty worn though. It's a night and day difference between my Mesa cab and 5150 cab. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members LordThurisaz Posted February 7, 2010 Members Share Posted February 7, 2010 The Mesa looks damn fine. I'd prefer a Stiletto though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mavesicles Posted February 7, 2010 Members Share Posted February 7, 2010 Mesa actually puts time into making their cabs so it seems. Here's my Randall. Looks very similar to a Mesa actually. The blue stuff around the edges is something I added. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sahlomonic Posted February 7, 2010 Members Share Posted February 7, 2010 I was shocked to see how my XXX cab was "sealed" when I opened it up last weekend. I have no doubt it has potential to be a good cab, but it'll need some reinforcements and caulking to make it solid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JSutter Posted February 7, 2010 Author Members Share Posted February 7, 2010 The Mesa looks damn fine. I'd prefer a Stiletto though. I just got the cab last week. I just looked it up an I guess this is a Stiletto cab:thu: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members LordThurisaz Posted February 7, 2010 Members Share Posted February 7, 2010 I just got the cab last week. I just looked it up an I guess this is a Stiletto cab:thu: :oh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JSutter Posted February 7, 2010 Author Members Share Posted February 7, 2010 Pretty cool Pics man. I agree, the Mesa cab I have has held up really well over the years. I have been considering changing out the V30s for C90s as of late, but for now, I have been really happy with the cab the way it is. Yea when I had a Revtoverb combo it had a C90. Its a more neutral sounding speaker. I liked it in the 3/4 back, but Id love to hear it in a sealed cab. I actually swapped the V30s into the 1960b and put Vet 30s into the Mesa. Im sure Ill catch hell for it but oh well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mavesicles Posted February 7, 2010 Members Share Posted February 7, 2010 Very nice, Mave. Looks pretty much like mine, except mine is cleaner inside and has faux gator skin on the outside. Also, Mave's looks dusty. Oh, and it has a port... dunno about Mave's though. Nope, mine isn't ported. It's an XL model. I don't know why there's a few dark parts. The light stuff isn't dust though, that's just how it is. This bad boy: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members LordThurisaz Posted February 7, 2010 Members Share Posted February 7, 2010 Ah. Mine may be ported for all of the {censored}ing low end. I mean, like... Godzilla rumbling down the street. Anyways, see the beam's base in your picture? How it's that dark solid blackish color? My entire cab guts are like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Dewysoss Posted February 7, 2010 Members Share Posted February 7, 2010 No doubt the Mesa cabs have fantastic build quality, I just REALLY prefer the sound of my 1960av with my JVM. The recto cab next to it is decent, but it sounds more boxy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mavesicles Posted February 7, 2010 Members Share Posted February 7, 2010 Ah. Mine may be ported for all of the {censored}ing low end. I mean, like... Godzilla rumbling down the street. Anyways, see the beam's base in your picture? How it's that dark solid blackish color? My entire cab guts are like that. Ah. Keep in mind I used a flash on the camera for that picture, so it is darker inside. The handles look weird on the Lynch box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mavesicles Posted February 7, 2010 Members Share Posted February 7, 2010 Here's a RL Diezel: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members LordThurisaz Posted February 7, 2010 Members Share Posted February 7, 2010 No doubt the Mesa cabs have fantastic build quality, I just REALLY prefer the sound of my 1960av with my JVM. The recto cab next to it is decent, but it sounds more boxy Ehh. Aren't the 1960AV's more like the Stiletto's in dimension? If so, comparing the 1960AV to the recto isn't exactly apples to apples and you should know better than that; you're usually an upfront, honest guy with his head on straight. Mave: They are "love handles". And not liking the snot they used to attach the center beam on the Diezel at all. Looks nice otherwise, but it's like wearing a nice shirt, with a big snot rocket all over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members OverDriven Posted February 7, 2010 Members Share Posted February 7, 2010 Mesa cabs sound godly. My Recto 2x12 sounds far better and "bigger" than the 5150 4x12 I used to own. It's amazing how much difference the construction can make. I believe Peavey cabs have thicker walls than most cabs IIRC, which I think contributes to their dead sound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Dewysoss Posted February 7, 2010 Members Share Posted February 7, 2010 Ehh. Aren't the 1960AV's more like the Stiletto's in dimension? If so, comparing the 1960AV to the recto isn't exactly apples to apples and you should know better than that; you're usually an upfront, honest guy with his head on straight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mavesicles Posted February 7, 2010 Members Share Posted February 7, 2010 Mave: They are "love handles". It's not open inside is it? Or is it like some sort of deep insert? The handles look deep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mikey383 Posted February 7, 2010 Members Share Posted February 7, 2010 Yea when I had a Revtoverb combo it had a C90. Its a more neutral sounding speaker. I liked it in the 3/4 back, but Id love to hear it in a sealed cab. I actually swapped the V30s into the 1960b and put Vet 30s into the Mesa. Im sure Ill catch hell for it but oh well. I had 2 C90s in my old Recto cab and didn't really like it with the Dual Recto. It sounded too thin and scooped for me. Maybe I should have tried the X pattern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members LordThurisaz Posted February 7, 2010 Members Share Posted February 7, 2010 It's not open inside is it? Or is it like some sort of deep insert? The handles look deep. The wood itself has a hole cut out. Then, when they construct it, they put a box on the inside of the cab to seal the hole up and the hole is smaller than the box so there is a lip to grab onto. Make sense? EDIT: And that pic is {censored}ty. It looks WAYYY sexier in front of you, like most guitar gear. EDIT2: Or naked women, for that matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mavesicles Posted February 7, 2010 Members Share Posted February 7, 2010 The wood itself has a hole cut out. Then, when they construct it, they put a box on the inside of the cab to seal the hole up and the hole is smaller than the box so there is a lip to grab onto. Make sense? EDIT: And that pic is {censored}ty. It looks WAYYY sexier in front of you, like most guitar gear. EDIT2: Or naked women, for that matter. Ahh, makes sense. And yeah, gear tends to look better IRL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members LordThurisaz Posted February 7, 2010 Members Share Posted February 7, 2010 Moral of the story... Randall cabs will kick your ass and go "So what, you're a Mesa 412, wanna fight about it?!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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