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  • Interesting video on Ebony from Taylor

    Saw this over on rig-talk and thought I'd share it here. Interesting stuff. Good on Taylor for taking this stance. Personally I wouldn't mind streaked ebony, and can't they just die it anyway? Don't they do that already?

    Originally Posted by James Hetfield


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  • #2
    Guitars it might fly. For other stringed instruments, furniture, and flooring it won't.

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    • #3
      Guitars it might fly. For other stringed instruments, furniture, and flooring it won't.


      doesn't sound like there's a whole lot of choice on the matter.
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      • #4
        Good on him.

        I've only ever owned one guitar with an ebony fretboard, and 90% of that fretboard was inlays.
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        • #5
          Hyperbole.
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          • #6
            are there actual numbers on how specifically guitar production is detrimental to the rainforest? I'm willing to bet the majority of the damage is from furniture production and other ****************
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            • #7
              I'm sure he's going to embrace the higher prices he's going to get for the pure black ebony!
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              • #8
                I'm sure he's going to embrace the higher prices he's going to get for the pure black ebony!


                ding ding ding !

                That is exactly what he meant.

                They put all this bull**************** on about protecting forests and guitar makers yada yada, but its the furniture and flooring companies that consume most of those trees IIRC.

                Think about it, one flooring board can be how many fretboards? I once saw a house with a 45x60 room of ebony flooring (not a laminate). First thought was damn.. and they go after guitar companies? WTF

                I think in today's market some composites and other abundant hardwood might be the next step. Those new boards from Gibson seem pretty durable. Guitarists will just have to get used to the looks of it.

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                • #9
                  Bunch of cynics...ebony is a rare wood to find in flooring and furniture. It would be an exotic or luxury material in those applications. The vast majority of furniture sold to the masses is made with cheap, common wood and MDF. Oak, birch, maple, pine, hickory, etc are all common flooring woods, ebony is definitely not. I have heard of rosewood being used for flooring more than ebony, and it is definitely considered an exotic/luxury material. Point being that the guitar and stringed instrument industries probably do bear a large responsibility for the depletion of ebony.

                  I also think ebony that is not totally black but has unique figuring could look pretty cool on an acoustic or an electric with a natural finish. It doesn't necessarily have to raise the price of a guitar with black ebony (although that is probably happening anyway) but it would be nice if it lowered the cost of one with the 'imperfect' ebony.

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                  • #10
                    What I don't understand is why more companies haven't looked into Osage Orange as a fretboard material. It's BEAUTIFUL and harder than ebony. If you sand it fresh it is an amazing yellow color that darkens into a orange then brown over time. A massive Osage tree on my grandpas property in Louisiana was struck by lightning and killed so we had it milled into planks and have a whole truckload of it. When you sand it down and polish it with tung oil it feels like smooth marble in your hand.
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                    • #11
                      What I don't understand is why more companies haven't looked into Osage Orange as a fretboard material. It's BEAUTIFUL and harder than ebony. If you sand it fresh it is an amazing yellow color that darkens into a orange then brown over time. A massive Osage tree on my grandpas property in Louisiana was struck by lightning and killed so we had it milled into planks and have a whole truckload of it. When you sand it down and polish it with tung oil it feels like smooth marble in your hand.


                      ok, but how does it sound?

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                      • #12
                        ok, but how does it sound?

                        p.s. rwake kicks ass btw


                        From all the luthiers I've read about using it "It's as close to Brazillian Rosewood as you can get" sounds pretty sweet to me.
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                        http://www.myspace.com/rwake
                        http://www.myspace.com/****************fire
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                        http://www.myspace.com/nongratametal

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                        • #13
                          I'm sure he's going to embrace the higher prices he's going to get for the pure black ebony!


                          GOOD...because allowing people to hack down a 20:1 ratio and leave the 20 to rot because its not the right color is just ****************ing STUPID. These hardwoods take a long time to grow and a few minutes to cut down. If you want to sustain the use of a resource that must be taken into consideration. Im willing to use the "B" grade Ebony.
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                          • #14
                            What I don't understand is why more companies haven't looked into Osage Orange as a fretboard material. It's BEAUTIFUL and harder than ebony. If you sand it fresh it is an amazing yellow color that darkens into a orange then brown over time. A massive Osage tree on my grandpas property in Louisiana was struck by lightning and killed so we had it milled into planks and have a whole truckload of it. When you sand it down and polish it with tung oil it feels like smooth marble in your hand.


                            Because guitarists and musicians in general are notoriously resistant to new materials, and will say they sound horrible without ever even having used them. How long did it take basswood to be accepted as a decent tonewood? People still say it is a ****************ty wood that sounds bad because it is less expensive and relatively new compared to alder or mahogany. There are ****************ty cheap woods out there like pawlownia of course....

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                            • #15
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