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  • Casino - 89db limit

    We're playing in a restaurant at a casino on Saturday. I was notified that they have a new policy that bands can not exceed 89 db at the restaurant entrance.

    We're going all pedal boards and have a good sound man, but our drummer will have a live kit (he does not have v-drums). The casino will be taking the readings. Wish us luck!
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    hotrods?!

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    • #3
      hotrods?!


      Ha! I wish!!!! But thanks for reminding me. I need to get mine back and get that volume pot replaced!
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      • #4
        Good luck! I've done a number of gigs like that and IME, it will all depend on how well your drummer can moderate the kick & snare. Also bring the smallest amps you have. I swear I've had people look at our guitar amps and tell us to turn down before we even start playing. The toughest part is the feeling that you would sound SO MUCH better if you could just break loose... Hope it pays! :-)

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        • #5
          Use modellers and get the drummer to use hotrods ! Like GoodDogYall, I've done a lot of those gigs, and running as much as possible through the PA and keeping the stage volume to a minimum is the only way that works (at least for me) !

          Good luck !
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          • #6
            Hahahahaha. I read the title and thought you meant it was an 89lb limit. As in 89Lbs of gear. LOL...
            so over this signature BS!!!

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            • #7
              People start freaking when I roll my 760 Leslie into a place. They don't know it's one of the weakest amps that I own. Anyway, you could calculate the audio drop from the stage to where the measurements are being taken. That way you have your own idea of what level you need to be at. You didn't mention how far away that is. Indoors you don't quite get the 6 db drop for a doubling of distance. (Unless the walls, floors and ceiling are non-reflective surfaces.)

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              • #8
                Hmmmm...
                80db is rated "Loud" - Noisy office,electric shaver,alarm clock,police whistle...
                90db is rated "Very Loud" - Noisy factory, truck without muffler....
                89db should be doable......

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                • #9
                  Hmmmm...
                  80db is rated "Loud" - Noisy office,electric shaver,alarm clock,police whistle...
                  90db is rated "Very Loud" - Noisy factory, truck without muffler....
                  89db should be doable......



                  Most speakers are rated at 97db-ish at 1 watt, 89db is not gonna be easy. Hopefully the band is quite far from where they are taking measurements.
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                  • #10
                    good luck sir! We play a place that had to be 65db at the entrance of the parking lot (Outside venue, distance from band to that point was probably about 5-600 feet with a building in the way) and we usually were ok. Sometimes though, our volume would "increase" as the night went on but we changed nothing... do frequencies travel farther depending on humidity/temperature?
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                    • #11
                      just IME:

                      if you're getting into the Casino circuit, be prepared to deal with db limiting. a lot.

                      you guys would do well to invest in modern, electronic gear. but my experiences on this board in the past tells me that the OP's band doesn't quite roll like that...

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                      • #12
                        Get a plastic shield for the drum kit.
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                        • #13
                          That really means nothing unless we know how far the band is from the restaurant door.

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                          • #14
                            Fill the kick drum with foam, packing blankets (If it were me, I'd fill that sucker all the way up with heavy King-sized blankets and tune it "just above wrinkles".), put a Remo Muff'l on the snare... it will make the snare a little less sensitive, but it will defintiely cut the volume down bit.

                            I have two sets of cymbals just for this purpose, and I went to a local foam company and had them make me foam "inserts" (Got this idea from another drummer on a website) and these foam inserts are like giant foam earplugs that fill the entire drum. Sure, the drums sound "tubby" sounding, but when mic'd and the mid-range rolled out, they almost have an electric sound to them.

                            When I was living in Wheeling, West Virginia last year, I went to a Casino on Wheeling Island. They had a band playing, and the drummer was using a 20" diameter kick, 8" & 10" rack toms, and 13" & 15" rack toms as suspended Floor toms. He had Muff'ls on all the toms and the snare batter heads, and on the kick he had the FULL Sheet Remo Muff'ls under both the front and back heads (I never thought about using those before - I knew they made them, but I had never even actually seen them being used.)

                            The band sucked - I mean they had "Lounge Act" written all over them.... like a bad "Murph and the Magic Tones" kind of Lounge Act... nothing like a guy singing "Crossroads" with perfect diction. (As in " I went down to THEE Cross roads AND got down on my knees." It was like he was reading a freaking cue card or teleprompter.

                            Utterly Awful

                            It was as bad as Florence Henderson singing Country music.

                            But the drummer could still play the kit in a fairly normal fashion, and it sounded good.
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                            • #15
                              That really means nothing unless we know how far the band is from the restaurant door.


                              If it's the place I'm thinking of, the band sets up right inside the entrance along the wall. The entrance is a wide opening, not really a door at all. There is seating outside the actual restaurant, it's in a mall like part of the casino. 89db should be easy enough to do. I'd take some tops on poles and not mic anything on stage.
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