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  • #31






    Quote Originally Posted by JimiRules
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    That happened to a band that I was in a few years ago. We were looking for a singer and we found this guy who was looking to sing in a band. We set up a time to meet, he shows up and everything goes great. He was a talented singer, liked the band, the whole nine yards. We came up with a few songs to work on for the next week, most of them being his choices, and was excited to get the band underway. That was the last we saw of him. He never showed again and didn't return any of our calls.






    One band I was in had something similar, but it went a little bit further. We were an active band with a pretty full calendar. When our singer put in notice, his replacement came in rarin' to go and within a week of his audition he was sitting in with us for a good part of the set. He did the same the following week at what was supposed to be our previous singer's farewell gig. We had a week off the next week, so we had two weeks to get the new singer fully up to speed. So we scheduled a couple of full band rehearsals and some one on one rehearsals with our secondary singer/rhythm guitar player. He never showed up, called, texted, or emailed. So we ended up having to bring in someone else, our second choice from our singer auditions, and our former singer stuck around for another gig.



    Month or so later, singer that disappeared left a note at our rehearsal place apologizing for bailing and claimed he couldn't contact us sooner because his house had burned down and he had lost his phone.











    Quote Originally Posted by beatpoet
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    I've experienced that, those type of people want to be in a band, but don't plan on actually doing anything in the band.



    Some of these people though, it's like if you've suddenly changed your mind are can't commit or just aren't interested, what the motherf*** is wrong with just getting in touch and saying "sorry, I've changed my mind"? They could send that in a text in about thirty seconds.




    This. When I moved a few years back, I did the craigslist/local musicians' message board route to find a band. A lot of the responses went nowhere after the initial contact, but four or five of them would set up an audition time, give me songs to learn, etc... and then when I would follow up the day before the audition to confirm, I never heard back. In two cases, when I did follow up, I got a response saying they had filled the gig but had forgotten to contact me. In almost all of the cases, the same bands were posting on craigslist within a few months trying to fill the same slot again.

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    • #32






      Quote Originally Posted by rog951
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      Rule#1: musicians are flakes.




      Some are. Some aren't.





      Rule #2: people lie.



      If you get to the point where you've got someone in the room with you and they're telling you they love the music, blah blah blah... try to listen to *how* they're saying it rather than *what* they're saying. IOW, learn to read people better. There are lots of reasons people will tell you one thing then turn around and do another.



      Rule #3: Craigslist musicians are bigger flakes than musicians you'll find elsewhere.



      From personal experience, I'd be happy to find a CL musician who exhibited a level of reading comprehension that extended beyond the title of my post. You wouldn't believe some of the people who've come crawling out from under their rocks in response to very specific posts.



      I've had much better luck finding musicians through personal contact and recommendations from friends. Find people who are playing at your level, attend their shows, and talk to them.



      Rule #4: Sometimes *you are* the problem.



      Not in my case, of course... <humor type="ironic" treatment="ignore_previous_statement"/> But *you* might have an interpersonal problem that's driving people away from you.



      A bit of soul-searching once in a while can be helpful. While it's easy to see how others cause problems for you, it can be really difficult to achieve the detachment you need to recognize your own contribution to the problem.



      If you don't already have a trusted friend who'll call you on your BS, take some time - and it will probably take a long time; there's no quick fix - to cultivate that kind of relationship.
      "There is no best in music."
      -- Neil Young, 1987

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      • #33






        Quote Originally Posted by wrongnote85
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        musicians are a flakey bunch. it's just the way it is.




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        • #34






          Quote Originally Posted by TieDyedDevil
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          Rule #3: Craigslist musicians are bigger flakes than musicians you'll find elsewhere..




          I totally agree with this^. CL is near worthless in my book. It's like turning over rocks hoping you'll find a gold nugget. And I don't base that on one recent ad. But we have another scheduled meet tonight with a prospective CL guitar player, he (supposedly) plays percussion in a symphony orchestra, which sounds to me like he's desperate for $$ and thinks that "Boot Scootin' Boogie" might pay better (and yes, I'm trying to withhold judgment). It seems a little odd that a "guitar player wanted for working country band" CL ad in a metro area would only turn up 2 responses. FWIW, the bandleader claims that bandmix is not much better.
          Gear: a room full of really LOUD plastic crap

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          • #35






            Quote Originally Posted by Piano Whore
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            I totally agree with this^. CL is near worthless in my book. It's like turning over rocks hoping you'll find a gold nugget. And I don't base that on one recent ad. But we have another scheduled meet tonight with a prospective CL guitar player, he (supposedly) plays percussion in a symphony orchestra, which sounds to me like he's desperate for $$ and thinks that "Boot Scootin' Boogie" might pay better (and yes, I'm trying to withhold judgment). It seems a little odd that a "guitar player wanted for working country band" CL ad in a metro area would only turn up 2 responses. FWIW, the bandleader claims that bandmix is not much better.




            I remember BandMix! I never had any replies to the emails I've sent to some bands in my area.
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            • #36
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              • #37






                Quote Originally Posted by TieDyedDevil
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                Rule #3: Craigslist musicians are bigger flakes than musicians you'll find elsewhere.




                The last bass player I worked with was someone I found through craigslist. Played with him for almost a year until he moved out of the area. Unfortunately he was the exception rather than the norm.



                A lot of the guys I contact on craigslist check out my songs on reverbnation or soundcloud and state that they are interested and are working on the tunes, etc. Then when I try to schedule a band practice they disappear.
                Originally Posted by diddlybo


                Just last week I went to the local GC with my 18 inch cock to buy several guitars and amps. On the way out I punched a hole clean thru the body of a MIM Tele, which caused the entire store to give me a standing ovation.









                Originally Posted by ShaneV2


                I play gay through the amp- it involves plugging into the amp's output jack. Sometimes you end up blowing a tranny though.

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                • #38
                  I'm going to go with self-examination. Sorry...And what Guido posted- there's nothing worse.

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                  • #39






                    Quote Originally Posted by Pro Sound Guy
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                    umm, I dont think so. The point entirely is the music. If you have a rehearsal for the first time with a new member and it sucks then they are not coming back. If it happens several times then its obviously not working musically. I left out the personal part because the OP claims they got along great until they made music together.




                    So if the music was good, they would have told him they weren't interested instead of just not calling back?
                    Free prog-related metal from Michigan.

                    http://www.silentlapse.com

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                    • #40






                      Quote Originally Posted by SpaceNorman
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                      Over the years however, I've accepted to a face to face invite only to discover that the band in the basement isn't anything like the band that was described to me over the phone! The "excellent" guitar player who asked me "what chord are you playing" gave me the ol' deer in the headlights" look when I told him "Am" and then had to help him pick out the individual notes since he didn't know them by note name. The "awesome" drummer who had no clue what I meant when I asked him to play a "shuffle" beat. The band that claimed to be "gig ready" yet couldn't come up with 10 tunes they could play from front to back on demand - or that claimed to be negotiating gigs to play a couple of "B+/A-" venues in the area - with their beat up pair of 1st generation EONs on sticks and 6 channel Behringer self powered mixer.




                      They sound like a typical "established band" with "management", "major label interest" and "gigs waiting".
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                      • #41






                        Quote Originally Posted by beatpoet
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                        They sound like a typical "established band" with "management", "major label interest" and "gigs waiting".




                        Everything but the ability to play their instruments.
                        Kickin' it in the sticks...

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                        • #42






                          Quote Originally Posted by SLScott86
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                          So if the music was good, they would have told him they weren't interested instead of just not calling back?




                          That's a more likely outcome IMO. Music that is quality tends to get more respect. But to try that theory out: How many times have you had prospective musicians flake out on YOUR project?
                          Gear: a room full of really LOUD plastic crap

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                          • #43






                            Quote Originally Posted by Piano Whore
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                            That's a more likely outcome IMO. Music that is quality tends to get more respect. But to try that theory out: How many times have you had prospective musicians flake out on YOUR project?




                            Ha- this project, none. I think, the two guys started it, and they asked three of us to be in the band six years ago, and it's been the same five ever since.
                            Free prog-related metal from Michigan.

                            http://www.silentlapse.com

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                            • #44






                              Quote Originally Posted by SLScott86
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                              Ha- this project, none. I think, the two guys started it, and they asked three of us to be in the band six years ago, and it's been the same five ever since.




                              Well, prog does have a barrier to entry that tends to scare off even the deluded clowns. Metal? Not so much. Even the most deluded of craigslist clowns knows better than to mess with prog. Or jazz for that matter.
                              Kickin' it in the sticks...

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                              • #45
                                To increase the commercial appeal of progressive rock it needs to be combined with hi-tech synth-based dance music. Prog-step!
                                Gear: a room full of really LOUD plastic crap

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