Members ckcondon Posted January 2, 2014 Members Share Posted January 2, 2014 As we keep hashing out the future of live music, I'm wondering what the future holds for cover bands. Not corp/wedding stuff, but covers in bars/clubs.I don't go out too much anymore when I'm not gigging, but for the most part I don't see many young (twenty-something) cover bands. Most are over 30, experienced players with varying setlists.At 46, I came of age during the 80's heyday of touring cover bands. I WANTED to be in a killer cover band playing all the badass songs I loved listening to. I still enjoy learning new songs whether it's a classic or a brand new Maroon 5 or Pink song...Do any young players aspire to play covers anymore?Then of course the question that begs to be asked is if you are 21ish and in a cover band, what does your setlist look like compared to us geezers? ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jeff42 Posted January 2, 2014 Members Share Posted January 2, 2014 a lot of agency bands are filled with fresh faced kids. here is some song lists i found from a few bands: i just copied and paste so there may be dups3OH!3 - Don't Trust Me ADELE/GNARLS BARKLEY - Rolling In The Deep/Crazy MASHUP ALL-AMERICAN REJECTS - Gives You Hell, Dirty Little Secret ALEX CLARE/ELLIE GOULDING - Too Close/Lights MASHUP AMERICAN HI-FI - Flavor of the Weak AVRIL LAVIGNE/THE TING TINGS - What The Hell/That's Not My Name MASHUP AVICII - Wake Me Up BASTILLE - Pompeii BEATLES - Twist & Shout BIG N RICH- Save A Horse (Ride A Cowboy) BILLY JOEL MASHUP - Only The Good Die Young/ Still Rock n Roll To Me BLACKSTREET - No Diggity BLINK 182 - All The Small Things, What's My Age Again BLUR - Song 2 BON JOVI - Livin' On A Prayer BREATHE CAROLINA - Blackout BRITNEY SPEARS - ...Baby One More Time/Womanizer/I Wanna Go/Till The World Ends MASHUP BRITNEY SPEARS/MIKE POSNER/KATY PERRY - Womanizer/Cooler Than Me/I Kissed A Girl MASHUP BRUNO MARS - Locked Out Of Heaven, When I Was Your Man BRYAN ADAMS - Summer Of 69 CARLY RAE JEPSON / KATY PERRY - Call Me Maybe/Teenage Dream MASHUP CEE LO GREEN - Forget You COOLIO/DESTINY'S CHILD- Gansta's Paradise/ Survivor MASHUP CUPID/CALI SWAG DISTRICT/SOULJA BOY - Cupid Shuffle/Teach Me How To Dougie/Crank That MASHUP DARKNESS - I Believe In A Thing Called Love DESTINY'S CHILD/BRITNEY SPEARS -Say My Name/ Hold It Against Me MASHUP DIRTY HEADS - Lay Me Down DROPKICK MURPHY'S - Shipping Up To Boston EDDY MONEY - Take Me Home Tonight ENRIQUE IGLESIAS/BRUNO MARS/PITBULL - Tonight I'm Loving You/Grenade/Hey Baby MASHUP EVE 6 - Inside Out FALL OUT BOY - Sugar We're Goin Down, My Songs Know What You Did In The Dark FAR EAST MOVEMENT/USHER - Like A G6/DJ Got Us Falling In Love MASHUP FLO RIDA/BLACK EYED PEAS - Club Can't Handle Me Right Now/I Gotta Feeling MASHUP FLO RIDA/COBRA STARSHIP - Good Feeling/Good Girls Go Bad MASHUP FLO RIDA/FUN MASHUP - Whistle/ Some Nights FLORIDA GEORGIA LINE - Cruise FOUNDATIONS - Build Me Up Buttercup FOUNTAINS OF WAYNE - Stacy's Mom FUN - We Are Young/Carry On Mashup GIN BLOSSOMS - Hey Jealousy GOOD CHARLOTTE - Anthem, Lifestyles of the Rich & Famous GOTYE / LADY GAGA - Somebody I used To Know/Just Dance Mashup GYM CLASS HEROES ft. ADAM LEVINE - Stereo Hearts HARVEY DANGER - Flagpole Sitta HOT CHELLE RAE - Tonight Tonight HOUSE OF PAIN - Jump Around ICONA POP/LA ROUX - I Love It/Bulletproof Mashup IMAGINE DRAGONS- Radioactive IMAGINE DRAGONS/LUMINEERS - It's Time/Ho Hey Mashup JASON MRAZ - I'm Yours JESSIE J/BLACK EYED PEAS - Price Tag/Where Is The Love Mashup JESSIE J / KATY PERRY - Domino / Firework Mashup JET - Are You Gonna Be My Girl JIMMY EAT WORLD - The Middle JOHN MELLENCAMP - Jack And Diane JOURNEY - Don't Stop Believin' JUSTIN BIEBER/TYGA MASHUP- Rack City / Boyfriend JUSTIN BIEBER/SEAN KINGSTON - Baby/Beautiful Girls MASHUP JUSTIN BIEBER/WILL.I.AM- #this Power/Scream & Shout MASHUP KANYE WEST/2PAC ft. DR.DRE - Stronger/California Love MASHUP KARMIN/WHITNEY HOUSETON - Brokenhearted/I Wanna Dance With Somebody Mashup KATY PERRY - I Kissed A Girl, Roar KATY PERRY/FOSTER THE PEOPLE - Last Friday Night/Pumped Up Kicks MASHUP KE$HA - Tik Tok, We R Who We R/Blah Blah Blah/Your Love Is My Drug MASHUP, Die Young KILLERS - Mr. Brightside LADY GAGA / GOTYE - Just Dance / Somebody That I Used to Know Mashup LIT - My Own Worst Enemy LMFAO/USHER - Shots/OMG MASHUP LMFAO/ZOMBIE NATION - Party Rock Anthem/Kernkraft 400 MASHUP LMFAO/PSY - Gangnam Style/ Sexy and I Know It Mashup LONELY ISLAND - I Just Had Sex LORDE - Royals LUKE BRYAN - Country Girl LUSTRA - Scotty Doesn't Know MACKLEMORE - Thrift Shop, Can't Hold Us, White Walls MAROON 5 - This Love, Payphone, One More Night MICHAEL JACKSON/ WILD CHERRY: Billie Jean / Play That Funky Music Mahsup MILEY CYRUS - Party In The USA, Wrecking Ball MILEY CYRUS/RIHANNA - We Can't Stop/Umbrella MASHUP NEIL DIAMOND - Sweet Caroline NELLY - Ride Wit Me, Hot In Here NEON TREES - Animal, Everybody Talks NINE DAYS - Absolutely (Story Of A Girl) NSYNC/BACKSTREET BOYS - Bye Bye Bye/Everybody (Backstreet's Back)/Larger Than Life MASHUP OASIS - Wonderwall OLD CROW MEDICINE SHOW - Wagon Wheel ONE DIRECTION - What Makes You Beautiful, Best Song Ever, Story of My Life OTIS DAY AND THE KNIGHTS - Shout OUTFIELD - Your Love OWL CITY & CARLY RAE JEPSON - Good Time PANIC AT THE DISCO - I Write Sins Not Tragedies PARAMORE - Misery Business, Still In To You PHILLIP PHILLIPS - Gone, Gone, Gone PINK - Raise Your Glass, So What PITBULL/CALVIN HARRIS- Feel This Moment/Feel So Close MASHUP PITBULL & KE$HA - Timber PROCLAIMERS/BEATLES/GUNS N' ROSES - I'm Gonna Be (500 Miles)/Hey Jude/Paradise City MASHUP QUEEN/FLO RIDA/LUDACRIS - Fat Bottomed Girls/Bottoms Up/What's Your Fantasy MASHUP R. KELLY - Ignition Remix RED HOT CHILI PEPPERS - Under The Bridge RICK SPRINGFIELD - Jessie's Girl RIHANNA/LADY GAGA - S&M/Bad Romance MASHUP ROMANITCS - What I Like About You ROBIN THICKE/DAFT PUNK- Blurred Lines/Get Lucky MASHUP SEAN KINGSTON/FLO RIDA - Fire Burning/Low MASHUP SELENA GOMEZ - Come & Get It SMASH MOUTH - All Star SNOOP DOGG & WIZ KHALIFA - Young Wild & Free SPIN DOCTORS - Two Princes STEVE MILLER BAND/SHAGGY - The Joker/Angel MASHUP SUBLIME - Santeria SUBLIME/SUGAR RAY - What I Got/Fly MASHUP SUM 41- Fat Lip SWEDISH HOUSE MAFIA - Don't You Worry Child TAYLOR SWIFT - We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together, I Knew You Were Trouble, 22 THE WANTED/NICKI MINAJ - Glad You Came/ Starships Mashup THIRD EYE BLIND - Jumper, Semi-Charmed Life TAIO CRUZ/KATY PERRY - Dynamite/California Gurls MASHUP TLC - No Scrubs TOM PETTY - American Girl TRAIN - Drive By VIOLENT FEMMES - Blister In The Sun WHEATUS - Teenage Dirtbag WHITE STRIPES/GARY GLITTER - Seven Nation Army/Rock'n'Roll (Penn State Football Style) MASHUP WILD CHERRY / MICHAEL JACKSON - Play That Funky Music/Billie Jean MASHUP WILLOW SMITH - Whip My Hair YELLOWCARD - Ocean Avenue ZAC BROWN BAND - Chicken Fried ZEDD - ClarityADELE - Rolling In the Deep ALEX CLARE - Too Close ALL-AMERICAN REJECTS - Gives You Hell AMERICAN HI-FI - Flavor Of the Weak A$AP ROCKY - Problems AVICII - Wake Me Up BACKSTREET BOYS - The Call, Larger Than Life, I Want It That Way BEYONCE ft. JAY-Z - Crazy in Love BIG & RICH - Save a Horse, Ride a Cowboy BIG SEAN - Dance (A$$) BLACK CROWES - Hard to Handle BLACK EYED PEAS - I Gotta Feelin', Let's Get It Started BLINK 182 - All the Small Things, Feeling This BREATHE CAROLINA - Blackout BRITNEY SPEARS - Till the World Ends, Toxic BRUNO MARS - Just the Way You Are, Locked Out Of Heaven, Treasure CALVIN HARRIS - Feel So Close, Let's Go, Sweet Nothing CAPITOL CITIES - Safe and Sound CARLY RAE JEPSEN - Call Me Maybe CEE LO GREEN - Forget You CHRIS BROWN - Kiss Kiss, Look At Me Now, Turn Up the Music CHUCK BERRY - Johnny B. Goode COLD PLAY - Viva la Vida, Fix You, Paradise COBRA STARSHIP - You Make Me Feel DAFT PUNK - Get Lucky DAVE MATTHEWS BAND - #41 DAVID GUETTA - Without You, I Can Only Imagine, Titanium DRAKE - Forever ELLIE GOULDING - Lights ELTON JON - I Just Can't Wait To Be King FALL OUT BOY - My Songs Know What You Did in the Dark FLORIDA GEORGIA LINE - Cruise FOO FIGHTERS - Learn To Fly FLO RIDA - Club Can't Handle Me, Low, Good Feeling, Wild Ones, Whistle, I Cry FLORIDA-GEORGIA LINE - Cruise FOUNTAINS OF WAYNE - Stacy's Mom FUN. - We Are Young, Some Nights GARTH BROOKS - Friends In Low Places GAVIN DEGRAW - I Don't Wanna Be GNARLS BARKLEY - Crazy GOO GOO DOLLS - Slide, Iris GOTYE - Somebody That I Used To Know GUNS N ROSES - Sweet Child O' Mine GYM CLASS HEROES - Stereo Hearts, Ass Back Home HARVEY DANGER - Flagpole Sitta ICONA POP - I Love It IMAGINE DRAGONS - It's Time, Radioactive INCUBUS - Pardon Me JAY-Z AND KANYE WEST - Ni**as in Paris JAY -Z- 99 Problems, Holy Grail JASON MRAZ - I'm Yours JET - Are You Gonna Be My Girl JIMMY EAT WORLD - The Middle, Sweetness JUSTIN BIEBER - Baby, Boyfriend, As Long As You Love Me, Beauty and a Beat JUSTIN TIMBERLAKE - SexyBack, Suit and Tie, Mirrors KANYE WEST - Heartless, Gold Digger, Clique, Mercy KARMIN - Brokenhearted KATY PERRY - Last Friday Night, E.T., I Kissed a Girl KE$HA - Your Love Is My Drug, Blow, Die Young KID CUDI - Erase Me, Pursuit of Happiness KID RICK - Bawitdaba THE KILLERS - All Things That I've Done, Somebody Told Me KINGS OF LEON - Use Somebody LADY GAGA - Poker Face, Bad Romance, You and I LFO - Summer Girls LIL JON - Get Low LIT - My Own Worst Enemy LMFAO - Party Rock Anthem, Sexy and I Know It, Shots LONELY ISLAND - I Just Had Sex, I'm On a Boat LORDE - Royals LUDACRIS - How Low, What's Your Fantasy LUKE BRYAN - Country Girl LUPE FIASCO - Show Goes On LUSTRA - Scotty Doesn't Know MACKLEMORE - Thrift Shop, Can't Hold Us MAJOR LAZER - Bubble Butt MAROON 5 - Harder To Breathe, Moves Like Jagger, Stereo Hearts, Payphone, One More Night METRO STATION - Shake It MICHAEL JACKSON - Billie Jean, Man In the Mirror, Black or White MILEY CYRUS - Party in the USA, We Can't Stop MUMFORD AND SONS - I Will Wait MUSE - Uprising MY CHEMICAL ROMANCE - I'm Not Okay (I Promise) NELLY - Hot In Here NEON TREES - Animal NERO - Promises NEW FOUND GLORY - My Friends Over You NE-YO - Let Me Love You NICKI MINAJ - Superbass, Starships, Pound The Alarm NINE DAYS - Absolutely NIRVANA - Smells Like Teen Spirit NO DOUBT - Hella Good NSYNC - I Want You Back OASIS - Wonderwall, Champagne Supernova ONE DIRECTION - What Makes You Beautiful OUTKAST - Hey Ya! OWL CITY & CARLY RAE JEPSEN - Good Time PINK - Raise Your Glass PITBULL - Give Me Everything, Hey Baby, International Love PSY - Gangnam Style QUEEN - Don't Stop Me Now RED HOT CHILI PEPPERS - By the Way RHIANNA - Umbrella, We Found Love, Birthday Cake, Diamonds ROBIN THICKE - Blurred Lines SISQO - The Thong Song SIR MIX-A-LOT - Baby Got Back SKRILLEX - Bangarang SUBLIME - Santeria, What I Got SUM 41 - Fat Lip SWEDISH HOUSE MAFIA - Don't You Worry Child TAKING BACK SUNDAY - Cute Without the 'E' TAYLOR SWIFT - Love Story, I Knew You Were Trouble, 22 TAIO CRUZ - Dynamite TENACIOUS D - Tribute THE ATARIS - Boys of Summer THE WHO - Baba O'Riley THE USED - Taste of Ink TLC - No Scrubs TOBY KEITH - Red Solo Cup TRAVIE MCCOY - Billionaire TREY SONGZ - Bottoms Up, Two Reasons TYGA - Rack City U2 - With or Without You USHER - DJ Got Us Falling In Love, OMG, Yeah!, Scream V.I.C. - Wobble WILL.I.AM. - Scream And Shout WEEZER - Say It Ain't So WHEATUS - Teenage Dirtbag YLVIS - The Fox ZAC BROWN BAND - ToesZEDD - Clarity this is the songs we do from this list:3OH!3 - Don't Trust Me ALL-AMERICAN REJECTS - Gives You Hell, BEATLES - Twist & Shout BIG N RICH- Save A Horse (Ride A Cowboy) BILLY JOEL MASHUP - Only The Good Die Young BLINK 182 - All The Small Things BLUR - Song 2 BON JOVI - Livin' On A Prayer BREATHE CAROLINA - Blackout BRUNO MARS - Locked Out Of Heaven CEE LO GREEN - Forget You DARKNESS - I Believe In A Thing Called Love EVE 6 - Inside Out FLO RIDA - Club Can't Handle Me FLO RIDA - Good Feeling/ FLO RIDA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Kevin T Posted January 2, 2014 Members Share Posted January 2, 2014 I notice the same very few if any under 30s cover bands . There is no band culture in high school today just Djs . They next gen seems to be all orig and Djs . Just as well with the way bars are closing / dropping live music here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ckcondon Posted January 3, 2014 Author Members Share Posted January 3, 2014 Hoping this doesn't get too bogged down in another original vs cover debate.What I've seen is that the "glamour" of cover bands is pretty much gone.Younger ppl go to a bar and end up watching guys their parents age play songs that could be close to 50 years old. There are few venues that have big stages and fewer bands that put on a "big show".Not much motivation to put a band together, build up 40 songs and jump in the mix.Guess its easier to record in your bedroom, put it on Youtube and have your friends leave comments on how awesome you are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TIMKEYS Posted January 3, 2014 Members Share Posted January 3, 2014 ckcondon wrote: Hoping this doesn't get too bogged down in another original vs cover debate. What I've seen is that the "glamour" of cover bands is pretty much gone. Younger ppl go to a bar and end up watching guys their parents age play songs that could be close to 50 years old. There are few venues that have big stages and fewer bands that put on a "big show". Not much motivation to put a band together, build up 40 songs and jump in the mix. Guess its easier to record in your bedroom, put it on Youtube and have your friends leave comments on how awesome you are. after a while its not much work to put a band together. Send out set list with the key sigs to guys who can do their home work and work on the fly ,, and hit it live with no real rehearsal. it takes the right kind of players to pull this off though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vito Corleone Posted January 3, 2014 Members Share Posted January 3, 2014 ckcondon wrote: Hoping this doesn't get too bogged down in another original vs cover debate. What I've seen is that the "glamour" of cover bands is pretty much gone. Younger ppl go to a bar and end up watching guys their parents age play songs that could be close to 50 years old. There are few venues that have big stages and fewer bands that put on a "big show". Not much motivation to put a band together, build up 40 songs and jump in the mix. Guess its easier to record in your bedroom, put it on Youtube and have your friends leave comments on how awesome you are. I think that in many ways the entire concept of "being in a band" is an older-generation thing. Something your parents or your grandparents did. But young kids still do it. Or at least still make music. And they always will. Music is just too cool and too integral to who many people are. They may not form bands and play in bars anymore, however.But hey, they didn't do that 100 years ago either. Music and musicians existed and prospered in different forms back then. It might just take some other form. Or maybe it just needs to be gone-from-the-scene long enough to become "cool" again. Maybe after 20 years of live music being virtually non-existant, young kids will start forming bands again and playing out live and the whole thing will start all over again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members StratGuy22 Posted January 3, 2014 Members Share Posted January 3, 2014 There's a half decent scene in my town. And in th big cities there's lots of original music going on. Everyone's cutting CD's or the new thing is vinyl/download cards. They are all in their 20's. plus I just started an open mic that went over really good with that group as well. There's 2 other open mics that cater to older people, so that's good as well. We are all in contact wih one another so we don't do them on the same night. Bob does his the first week of the monthI'm the second weekTerry does the third weekI do the 4th week All at different venues. With the younger original bands Everyone plays one set, they split the door etc etc. Old farts like myself play the event scene. NYE weddings, Christmas parties etc. Here's the latest original gig I did sound for: 4 bands: Again, my band is too old to play for these kids but I have a great rig so I put it to use a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mstreck Posted January 3, 2014 Members Share Posted January 3, 2014 ckcondon wrote: Hoping this doesn't get too bogged down in another original vs cover debate. What I've seen is that the "glamour" of cover bands is pretty much gone. Younger ppl go to a bar and end up watching guys their parents age play songs that could be close to 50 years old. There are few venues that have big stages and fewer bands that put on a "big show". Not much motivation to put a band together, build up 40 songs and jump in the mix. Guess its easier to record in your bedroom, put it on Youtube and have your friends leave comments on how awesome you are. I don't get it either. I was talking to a no-nonsense venue owner last weekend and he told us how he originally came to hire us. A mutual friend called him to tell him that he had to come see us at a show we played last November. Well, he saw us a couple of years ago back when we were primarily playing classic rock and he really wasn't interested. He asked our mutual friend what song we were playing at the moment. The answer was "Raise Your Glass" so he came to check us out. He said he originally intended to stay for five songs, but ended up staying for another two and a half hours. He said (and I'm not kidding) that he decided to hire us the moment we played "Call Me Maybe" and saw how much fun we (and the audience) were having with it. In particular, the fact that our lead guitarist was jumping up and down when we played it is what sold him. He also loved that we play lots of current pop and very little classic rock - if we would have played what we played years ago, he would have walked out. We aren't a young band, but we have two members that are in their mid-20's. Other than us, I have seen ONE band of young players (all in their 20's - all very talented) make a dent in our local "scene" within the past five years. Every other local band that gigs regularly consist of players that have been around for years and are still playing mostly classic rock. The "old guard" seems to be the only guard - by default. My point is this: there are opportunities for young players to form a cover band and get jobs by playing "their generation's" music - the demand is there! For the record, I'm glad they're aren't more young bands in our area. I'd rather compete against the dad bands that don't want to put *any* effort into a "show". On a somewhat-related note, one local venue decided to go "hip hop" last Friday night to appeal to the college kids. I don't know what happened, but two hours into it, they posted on their facebook page that there would be no more hip hop nights and they would be bringing back "rock and roll bands". They also announced they would be having "bike night (colors allowed)". I'm guessing that we won't be playing there anytime soon. I'd rather play at the beach anyhow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Blackbird 13 Posted January 5, 2014 Members Share Posted January 5, 2014 For what it's worth.. I have a few friends in the 25-35 range who are making 25K to 40K a year playing in bars, but it's a struggle. I also agree with the idea that there is opportunity there for younger cover bands to come on the scene and be successful, but I also agree with guido, that it's all about presenting your band as a viable entertainment option to a 20-something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members twostone Posted January 5, 2014 Members Share Posted January 5, 2014 My guess that it's some what common knowledge that you stand a better chance of fame and fortune when your young playing original like ABC and Rocking Robin which is don't think is to very musically challenge songs compared to masters such as Bach and Beethoven. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Lee Knight Posted January 5, 2014 Moderators Share Posted January 5, 2014 I'm impressed with David/Guido's understanding and support of younger musicians and their different paths as compared to our upbringing and experience. I learned by copying and playing every night of the week for 4 hours in front of people. At 17 I was performing full time. You get good. But the thing is... A lot don't too. I knew guys that had only the ability to copy. That's fine. But that wasn't where I wanted to be. Now-a-days I see kids 16 to 25 playing their own music in coffee bars. Short sets, Small ensembles or solo. And like back in my day, some are inconsequential and some are truly great. So really, who cares if the Beatles did it first with covers so that's the way it should be today!?!? The world will change. It doesn't care if we disagree. Just listen to some of the indie folk music happening now to realize that the world of music is going to be fine, even if they don't do things the way we did. I'm happy with change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vito Corleone Posted January 7, 2014 Members Share Posted January 7, 2014 Depends a lot on what your goals are. If your goal is to be a skilled player who can play lots of styles of music in a variety of situations? Sure. But if your goal is to write the next big hit single? Playing with those old dudes probably isn't going to help as much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TIMKEYS Posted January 7, 2014 Members Share Posted January 7, 2014 guido61 wrote: Depends a lot on what your goals are. If your goal is to be a skilled player who can play lots of styles of music in a variety of situations? Sure. But if your goal is to write the next big hit single? Playing with those old dudes probably isn't going to help as much. They dont have to be older to be better or farther down stream. One of the big secrets of success ist to surround yourself with solid talent. I dont care what business you choose. You can write a the next big hit but odds are you wont ever become a hit without the people who can help move it along the way. The world runs on suction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vito Corleone Posted January 7, 2014 Members Share Posted January 7, 2014 Well yeah. You can't have the next big hit without experienced producers or a record label or money behind you or whatever. But that's a different subject from what we're talking about here which is simply about the band level Think back to the 60s. I don't think The Who or the Stones or CCR got where they did because they started out playing covers with more experienced players and surrounding themselves with more solid talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ckcondon Posted January 7, 2014 Author Members Share Posted January 7, 2014 So to wrap it up, I think we all agree that reasons many of us got into cover bands (cool scene, big stages, steady money, touring opportunity) are long gone. Couple that with the fact that you can youtube any artist and see them perform anytime you want, and demand dries up. I used to go to clubs to watch bands play stuff I couldn't see unless I went to a real concert.I loved hearing good bands play Zeppelin, VH, Ozzy etc. It was loud, there were lots of lights and beautiful women all over the place. Fun times.There will always be young musicians trying to share their gift with others, it just seems that "our way" of doing it in bars and clubs isn't very appealing to the next generation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TIMKEYS Posted January 7, 2014 Members Share Posted January 7, 2014 they all had influencesand.Keith Richards heavily influenced by Chuck Berry.you look at Rock n Roll most of its roots come from the old blues artists. Rock n Roll Hall is not conceived in a vacuum and is more in evolution of previous styles artists and types of music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Lee Knight Posted January 7, 2014 Moderators Share Posted January 7, 2014 And new young performers don't have influences? I'm confused, Tim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Kevin T Posted January 7, 2014 Members Share Posted January 7, 2014 Whay we need for this dicussion is some 15-25yo young folk to tell us how they plan on performing their art ...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Kevin T Posted January 7, 2014 Members Share Posted January 7, 2014 id think MF Has a vested interest ln the future market of muso tool/toys .us old farts will soon.age out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TIMKEYS Posted January 7, 2014 Members Share Posted January 7, 2014 Lee Knight wrote: And new young performers don't have influences? I'm confused, Tim. sure they have influences and thats the point i was making. They all learn from someone or some other band. Dave seems to think self taught musicians go into a basement and pop out with the next big hit without ever playing with other bands or musicans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vito Corleone Posted January 7, 2014 Members Share Posted January 7, 2014 TIMKEYS wrote: they all had influencesand.Keith Richards heavily influenced by Chuck Berry.you look at Rock n Roll most of its roots come from the old blues artists. Rock n Roll Hall is not conceived in a vacuum and is more in evolution of previous styles artists and types of music. Of course they had influences. Everyone does. But again, that's a different topic. You were trying to make the case that musicians can learn a lot from gigging with more experienced players. And, of course, they can. But that doesn't really have anything to do with whether they are going to write and create better original material or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SLScott86 Posted January 15, 2014 Members Share Posted January 15, 2014 Playing ball with the music business is exhausting. If you focus on "making it," it's way more exhausting than it is to just do it because you love it. In my case, I can focus on what the sweet stuff the band has done didn't do for us, which is easy to do at a mindless desk job, or I can focus on how freaking awesome it's all been and look forward to the next album, regardless of who buys it. Does focusing on playing ball with the industry increase your odds of making a living playing music? Of course. But in absolute terms, how much? From almost no chance to a very slim chance? And if that's a fun sucker, does it even help that much compared to being a band that's having a blast? A large percentage of the game is half mental. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members fenderbender9 Posted January 24, 2014 Members Share Posted January 24, 2014 I just read a post about the value of mentors and that is where I decided to chime in here. I'm 19 and I was fortunate enough to grow up close to Memphis and found my way into a few circles. I got to play with some frickin' phenomenal seasoned musicians and it was truly what preserved and increased how passionate I am about music. What the experience has also offered me is a well-versedness that allows me to play to the older crowd in a room while still having the knowledge of what is current allowing me to also appeal to younger crowds. I'm okay with covers if I'm going into a gig for the cash. It takes a lot of time and exposure to really do well playing solely originals, so I see a gig as what it is. I have also played with a few younger groups and it is getting harder to find people with the ability to do covers with a bit of originality. However, I am hopeful that there will be a future market for cover bands that isn't just the four chord mainstream pop and 'rock'. I find new songs to be very restricting and not conducive to solos and improvisation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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