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  • Quote Originally Posted by Keithos28
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    Congrats on the $20 discount. I got mine [VL4] two weeks ago; after waiting since June. Had to use 'strong arm' tatics; i.e. 'Can I talk to your supervisor' etc..'This is impacting my Job, soon I'll have to sue' ...only joking did'nt go exactly that far !

    This was to Musicians Friend; finally [they said] I seemed to somehow have jumped to the top of pile, or thereabouts. Be Firm and agressive; make threats 'from now on I'll buy everything from George's Music'........good luck....




    Musicians Friend put the big one to me (I posted in the VL2 section about it).



    I picked my VL4 up today at my hometown music store. I'm looking forward to seeing what it's made out of. I have previously owned the TC Helicon Voice Works.

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    • Ihoard,



      Keep us posted regarding your thoughts on the VL4.



      By the way, I remember reading what MF did to you. Not cool.

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      • Can't wait to get mine.

        Just curious...anybody try this with say a flute or a trumpet instead of the vocals?

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        • Hi,

          My VL4 was delivered this week and I reckon the MusicIQ works very well !!.



          I wanted to check the harmony using the Eaglets 2 preset so I turned the guitar level down to zero and recorded the VL4 output on my fostex VF160. I found that some guitar was still audible behind the recorded vocal. I first thought that guitar signal was bleeding through from the VL4 guitar input and being subjected the the preset FX but found it was the accoustic sound from my Telecaster bleeding into the mic itself.....Panic over



          The VL4 replaces my original 90s Digitech Vocalist Performer and now in-song key changes are no problem.

          I have to admit that the Pitch Correct feature was a major consideration in the purchase........!!

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          • Quote Originally Posted by terrasini74
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            i don't know whether or not this has been brought up, but when you choose to harmonize a 3rd above, it sometimes goes up a 4th when using musicIQ. For example, when i sing an F# with a Bmi chord, the unit chooses a B instead of an A. Even when i play a Bmi7, the unit still chooses a B. It's not the end of the world, but an actual 3rd above an F# is very pleasing to the ear even when sung over a Bmi chord. And some songs require it. To overcome this problem, i turn off the MusicIQ and choose a DMa scale for the hamornies. When this is done, it will always choose an actual 3rd above. Unfortunately, if the song requires a key change, then this option isn't practical since you'll have to push the key change button with your finger during the song, unless you play barefoot and can click the key change button with a toe. Does anyone know how we can always get an actual 3rd above when using MusicIQ?




            Singing an F# over a Bm chord and getting the B rather than the A is reasonably common as it's most often the "correct" harmony. However, I'm a little surprised you get the A when playing Bm7 because I seem to remember trying that and got an A. Perhaps this is a situation where the "memory" works against you instead of in your favor...but also check the levels of the guitar going into the unit, because if the signal is not strong enough, the highest notes (which in this case would define the harmony you want) are the first to get lost as they have the least amount of energy.



            If that’s not the problem, then you can always use musIQ-Alt mode. This will generally give you the A even over a Bm chord. Incidentally, you don't need to push the button with your hand while you're playing; whether musIQ is on or off can all be stored in the presets (something I use to advantage quite a bit!).
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            • hi all,

              can anybody guess if using a wireless headset into the unit might be an issue?

              vl4 really cool so far, just don't want to splurge on the Shure ULXS1430 if it doesn't suit my needs (need to use the vl4!)



              thanks for any insight

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              • Quote Originally Posted by Anderton
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                Singing an F# over a Bm chord and getting the B rather than the A is reasonably common as it's most often the "correct" harmony. However, I'm a little surprised you get the A when playing Bm7 because I seem to remember trying that and got an A. Perhaps this is a situation where the "memory" works against you instead of in your favor...but also check the levels of the guitar going into the unit, because if the signal is not strong enough, the highest notes (which in this case would define the harmony you want) are the first to get lost as they have the least amount of energy.



                If that’s not the problem, then you can always use musIQ-Alt mode. This will generally give you the A even over a Bm chord. Incidentally, you don't need to push the button with your hand while you're playing; whether musIQ is on or off can all be stored in the presets (something I use to advantage quite a bit!).




                Thanks for the advice. I tried your suggestions. I tried a different fingering for Bmi7, and the harmony voice hit the A more often. I also tried MusIQ with the ALT mode and that seemed to work pretty well too, with the A registering about 80% of the time.

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                • Here's an example of using the VL4 in a recording setting.



                  I overdubbed just the harmony, using the "Blind Boys" preset.



                  The song is "A Change Is Gonna Come", by the great Sam Cooke.



                  Here's a bit of it. I tried to mix the harmonies "back" a bit.





                  http://www.GlennGalen.com/examples/VL4Change.mp3
                  http://www.reverbnation.com/GlennGalen

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                  • nice

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                    • Glenn,



                      Very tasteful! I really like it! I have to say, I have not really used these units much to add a separate harmony track from the lead, but this demo has convinced me that I should try it. Thanks for posting it.



                      Geckoland

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                      • Quote Originally Posted by GlennGalen
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                        Here's an example of using the VL4 in a recording setting.



                        I overdubbed just the harmony, using the "Blind Boys" preset.



                        The song is "A Change Is Gonna Come", by the great Sam Cooke.



                        Here's a bit of it. I tried to mix the harmonies "back" a bit.





                        http://www.GlennGalen.com/examples/VL4Change.mp3




                        Sounds Great! honestly over the speakers i would never guessed it was a harmonizer.



                        Thanks for sharing



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                        • Quote Originally Posted by lhoard
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                          Musicians Friend put the big one to me (I posted in the VL2 section about it).



                          I picked my VL4 up today at my hometown music store. I'm looking forward to seeing what it's made out of. I have previously owned the TC Helicon Voice Works.






                          There you go!



                          Sounds like a plan. I also got tired of MF's promises to ship with their constant "updated" backordered notices so I cancelled my VL4 order, (gasp)!!!



                          Once my hometown store gets the VL4 in, I can test drive it there like I did the VL2. Simple solution with no more backorder notice games.



                          Actually, I am pretty content with my VL2 as I just purchased it from my local music center August. I'm thinking, what am I going to do with two of these boxes? Based on what I'm doing now, the VL2 is small to haul, very simple and fantastic to use for live performances. The VL4 sounds less spontaneous for gigging purposes but I will still be open to testing it out.



                          Best to all,





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                          • Here's an example of using the VL4 in a recording setting.



                            I overdubbed just the harmony, using the "Blind Boys" preset.



                            Thanks GlennGalen! That is actually quite amazing!



                            BTW, did you sing with that wide gospel vibrato when creating the backing harmony or did the VL4 actually do that by itself? The VL2 doesn't have vibrato.

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                            • The pre-set 'GALS DUET' { makes a male lead singer sound female }; is cool to say the least. My wife burst into the music room looking for the hidden females.

                              Pre-set 'CSN' ; try that on 'Teach your children' by Crosby , Stills and Nash.

                              This is a cool thread to say the least; lots of harmony talk. Anybody else applied some of the cool pre-sets to any popular songs?

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                              • Quote Originally Posted by Metrico
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                                Thanks GlennGalen! That is actually quite amazing!



                                BTW, did you sing with that wide gospel vibrato when creating the backing harmony or did the VL4 actually do that by itself? The VL2 doesn't have vibrato.




                                Thanks Metrico.



                                The VL4 did the vibrato on my "backing guys". It is really quite interesting how, with practice, you start to use the VL4 like an instrument when tracking the backing vocals. I kind of get into the "backup singer" frame of mind, and can see my self swaying and snapping my fingers like the Temptations



                                It's quite a lot of fun, and the possibilities are extensive for using the VL4 as an instrument in itself in recordings.
                                http://www.reverbnation.com/GlennGalen

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