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    Hey guys,



    I have been jamming with a couple guys in a jazz trio. We now have a sizable set together and are about to start gigging - just small venues mainly. I've got my instrument, a couple pedals (nothing too crazy, just tuner, compressor, and fuzz), and a 4x10 cabinet. My 100W Sunn Beta Bass head from the late 70s probably isn't going to cut it though. Its not super loud, has no DI out, its also sorta scratchy and temperamental. So I've been doing a bit of research on the class D amps that are popping up. I like the idea of having a small and easy to transport head, but I want to be able to sit in the mix nicely and keep up volume-wise with my drummer. I was wondering if you guys had any advice on the following amps, which you like best, horror stories or stuff to avoid, etc.



    I've been looking at:

    TC Electronic GH250 - the toneprint thing is cool but not sure how much I'd use it

    Ampeg Micro VR - seems simple and straightforward

    Ampeg Portaflex 350 - a few more options than the MVR, but not as many as the 500

    Eden E300 - not alot of info available on this one, but it looks nice



    Let me know what you think!
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    I have a TC RH450. Awesome amp. I don't know how the GH250 head compares, but if they even come close you'll be set.
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    • #3
      Take a look at the Gallien Kreuger class D heads too. They have 200 and 500w ones that are very small and sound good.

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        Genz Benz Shuttle 6.0
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        • #5
          Acoustic Image "CLARUS".



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            Quote Originally Posted by perrydabassman
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            Genz Benz Shuttle 6.0




            Yeah, for my money Genz-Benz is creme of the crop when it comes to smaller sized amps... A NeoPak 3.5 recently sold on TB's classifieds for under $250 - that's ALOT of amp for that kinda dough... I have a Streamliner 900 I really like, but think one of the Shuttles would be a better fit, given the OP's described purposes...





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            • #7
              100W thru a 4x10" not cutting it with a Jazz trio in small settings? Wow.

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              • #8
                In my opinion GK and Markbass make some of the best more traditional solid state sounding class D's.



                The only 'tube-sim' class Ds I will touch are-

                Markbass TTE for clean sounds

                Orange BT500 for dirtier
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                  Quote Originally Posted by T. Alan Smith
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                  100W thru a 4x10" not cutting it with a Jazz trio in small settings? Wow.




                  A scratchy 100W head with no DI thats pushing 40 years old. Time for a new head.

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                    Quote Originally Posted by lz4005
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                    A scratchy 100W head with no DI thats pushing 40 years old. Time for a new head.




                    Yeah, I don't think he's talking about volume.



                    Another vote for the Genz Benz Shuttle 6.0 here. The only thing I wish mine had was a gain control on the DI but that's easy enough to work around.

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                    • #11
                      I have a Micro-VR, a GK MB200, and a GB Shuttle 3.0 . I paid about $250 each (the Shuttle was slightly used). All sound great. The Micro-VR wins on "vintage looks", the MB200 on size, and the Shuttle is the most "HiFi" of the bunch (it's my home practice amp at the moment). The Shuttle is a bit "project boxy" looking IMO as are many other microheads. I do like the looks and "GK sound" of the MB200.

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                        Quote Originally Posted by melancholy mechanic
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                        Yeah, I don't think he's talking about volume.




                        Yeah, it sounds like he wants reliability and options.



                        It's not on your list, but I'd recommend the iAmp Micro from Euphonic Audio. I gigged that sucker heavily for two years, and it was a very nice amp. Super clean, nice headroom and the line out wasn't bad. It's worth a look.



                        Otherwise, the GK stuff I've played in stores has been solid. If you even wanted to, you could splurge for an MB-150 GK amp and have a sick little combo that has been THE jazz combo for decades. I've had one of those that worked extremely well for years.
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                          The Shuttles do have great support and a reputation for reliability. OTOH until they discontinued the 3.0 you could buy two MB200's for what a Shuttle 3.0 cost. The 3.0 is available for under $300 new on eBay:

                          http://www.ebay.com/itm/271097307315

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                          • #14
                            I own a MarkBass LMII (which has since been updated to the LMIII) and for the price, it's absolutely great. Very highly recommended.
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                              Thanks for all the suggestions guys! Really digging the GK MB200 and the GB Shuttle, those are definitely going on my list of things to try.



                              And yes, I'm more concerned about reliability and sound quality, which is why I'm looking for something new.
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                                Look at acoustic image amplifiers, little company, cool amps, big sound and power for their size.
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                                Adjustable Xlr light weight and I don't need to carry a cabinet.

                                Not much larger than a milk crate and weighing just 23 pounds, this single-channel, 250-watt guitar/bass amp meets the demands of car-less musicians in cities who travel on foot and in cabs and subways. In addition to being plenty loud for jazz gigs, the New Yorker sports a four-band EQ, an effects loop and a direct output. And Acoustic Image's reputation for superb sonic clarity will remain intact as this one carries the same speakers used in the company's other combo amps. acousticimg.com
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