Members akliner Posted October 29, 2007 Members Share Posted October 29, 2007 So I got rid of my Electro this weekend. It was an amazing board and great for what I am doing musically with my band. But I'm starting to tool around with more "music for the stage" writing and some low-key electronic stuff. As it is, I leave my 88-key (Motif 8) at the rehearsal space and travel my 76 key (Electro) with me to and from my home and home studio. The electro was all I had in my home studio. I think I'm gonna wait a couple months and get an XS7 to replace the Electro. I know, I know. Actually, I'll try to wait to play the new Fantom, but I spent some considerable time in front of an XS6 at Guitar Center and I fell in love . Eight sliders = Eight drawbars; the thing has great organs...and would be easier to tweak than the LED-Based interface of the Electro. Not to mention, I'm getting all those other Motif voices that I'm in love with. Now, I do realize this means I would be in ownership of 2 Motifs...and I'm a pathetic fanboy for Yamaha's stuff and I probably deserve death or ebola or something. I feel good about this, though. Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Outkaster Posted October 29, 2007 Members Share Posted October 29, 2007 No your not. Yamaha makes some really good products and the XS7 probably will have more functionality for what you want to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mate_stubb Posted October 29, 2007 Members Share Posted October 29, 2007 I see you are easily distracted by shiny objects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members akliner Posted October 29, 2007 Author Members Share Posted October 29, 2007 I see you are easily distracted by shiny objects. That may be that case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Superace25 Posted October 29, 2007 Members Share Posted October 29, 2007 That may be that case. but it's ok, because they are shiney. And they glow. One mustn't lose perspective on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members akliner Posted October 29, 2007 Author Members Share Posted October 29, 2007 but it's ok, because they are shiney. And they glow. One mustn't lose perspective on that. Actually, this would offset my purchase of an Alesis Ion by a month or so...talk about shiny and glowy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Outkaster Posted October 29, 2007 Members Share Posted October 29, 2007 God forbid anyone says anything bad about the Electro on this forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members akliner Posted October 29, 2007 Author Members Share Posted October 29, 2007 God forbid anyone says anything bad about the Electro on this forum. It's a great performance board and the action was really nice...but I need something more versitile for my own stuff. Mr Cop Says: Don't go nay-saying the Electro, plz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rabid Posted October 29, 2007 Members Share Posted October 29, 2007 I can see the move on the ep side of the Electro, but I'm afraid you are going to take a big hit on the organ sounds. The Motif line has the worst organ patches of any of the big 3 ROMplers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members akliner Posted October 29, 2007 Author Members Share Posted October 29, 2007 I can see the move on the ep side of the Electro, but I'm afraid you are going to take a big hit on the organ sounds. The Motif line has the worst organ patches of any of the big 3 ROMplers. The presets are kinda weak, but with about 5 minutes I tweaked a really nice Hammond sound with the 8 sliders controlling the draw bars, the mod wheel controlling the leslie speed (the Electro requires a pedal to control leslie speed) and a great overdrive insert effect. It sounded really fat through a {censored}ty Roland KB300 (I think that's the smallest Roland KB amp..?) Plus the LED interface of the Electro made it hard to adjust drawbars in real time. However, I feel you on the pure tone...the Electro sounded great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members wineandkeyz Posted October 29, 2007 Members Share Posted October 29, 2007 God forbid anyone says anything bad about the Electro on this forum. Actually, I'll probably be selling my Electro 73 before long, too. I'd been using a Roland VK-8M module, but I wanted to get away from using a MIDI module. I bought the Electro based on all the glowing reports here and places like Yahoo's clonewheel group. The Electro sounds awesome (although it would be nice if it had onboard reverb), but after 3 rehearsals with my band and one gig, I just can't get used to using those little buttons instead of actual drawbars. My eyes suck, so I have a hard time finding the buttons onstage. I find it much easier to tweak drawbars by feel, so I just picked up a Roland VK-8 from eBay. It's supposed to arrive later this week, and if it is in the condition the seller advertised, the Electro will be up for sale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Outkaster Posted October 29, 2007 Members Share Posted October 29, 2007 They do sound good I will give you that but button drawbars is just not something I can get used too and I think the eronomics of the board are awful also. Always remember a huge percentage of people that write reviews are people that have not played a real Hammond. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mrcpro Posted October 29, 2007 Members Share Posted October 29, 2007 The Motif B3 waveforms are pretty good. The XS adds some note-offs and a few more percussion samples, but they're mostly the same as you already have. What lets all Motif organs down IMO is their Leslie sim(s). The XS reduced the number of types down from nine to one and eliminated some parameters. This would have been fine if it sounded better, but it's the same 'ol to these ears. Thin, watery, blah... You can use those faders for drawbars and load in all the third party sounds in you want, but ultimately you still have to deal with that sim. Still, I've got some brassy and flutey B3/Leslie sounds I can live with out of my Motif ES7 by running two Rotaries in series. But I have yet to get any good funky leads out of it that my SRX-07 equipped Fantom has in spades. On the Korg side, the one sound category that really impressed me on the M3 when I auditioned it was this one. If you are looking for B3/Leslie sounds in a rompler you owe it to yourself to give the M3 a *ahem* spin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sizzlemeister Posted October 29, 2007 Members Share Posted October 29, 2007 On the Korg side, the one sound category that really impressed me on the M3 when I auditioned it was this one. If you are looking for B3/Leslie sounds in a rompler you owe it to yourself to give the M3 a *ahem* spin. Do they get near a clone's reproduction or is it still a matter of there being no contest between a clone and a ROMpler? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mrcpro Posted October 29, 2007 Members Share Posted October 29, 2007 I really didn't spend enough time on it. And I've never played an XK1. But just running through things I heard several B3/ Leslie I'd love to gig with right out of the box. The standout is the sim itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members akliner Posted October 29, 2007 Author Members Share Posted October 29, 2007 This is a decent discussion! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Diametro Posted October 29, 2007 Members Share Posted October 29, 2007 Actually, I'll try to wait to play the new Fantom, but I spent some considerable time in front of an XS6 at Guitar Center and I fell in love . You're going to be waiting a while ... There's no guarantee Roland will even announce anything at Winter NAMM ... and even then it will be months or more before it arrives ... and the more cutting edge it is, the longer it will take to bring to market ... and then possibly some time to deal with bug fixes ... Personally, I'm hoping THEY DON'T announce anything at Winter NAMM ... take your time and do it right, Roland ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members akliner Posted October 29, 2007 Author Members Share Posted October 29, 2007 You're going to be waiting a while ... There's no guarantee Roland will even announce anything at Winter NAMM ... and even then it will be months or more before it arrives ... and the more cutting edge it is, the longer it will take to bring to market ... and then possibly some time to deal with bug fixes ...Personally, I'm hoping THEY DON'T announce anything at Winter NAMM ... take your time and do it right, Roland ... That's a good point. But it would be a couple months before I could afford an XS anyway...if they did have an offering at Winter NAMM, I'd be in time for that...if I held vigilant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TowJam Posted October 30, 2007 Members Share Posted October 30, 2007 That's a good point. But it would be a couple months before I could afford an XS anyway...if they did have an offering at Winter NAMM, I'd be in time for that...if I held vigilant. Not to further muddy up the water, but you may want to check out the PC3 since it's supposed to be shipping within the timeframe you're looking at buying. The B3 capabilities look pretty strong (and 9 drawbars). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sizzlemeister Posted October 30, 2007 Members Share Posted October 30, 2007 It's already listed in the new Sweetwater catalog (along with the Nord Wave). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members -groovatious- Posted October 30, 2007 Members Share Posted October 30, 2007 Actually, this would offset my purchase of an Alesis Ion by a month or so...talk about shiny and glowy. Oh yeah... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members akliner Posted October 30, 2007 Author Members Share Posted October 30, 2007 It's beautiful! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members akliner Posted October 30, 2007 Author Members Share Posted October 30, 2007 Not to further muddy up the water, but you may want to check out the PC3 since it's supposed to be shipping within the timeframe you're looking at buying. The B3 capabilities look pretty strong (and 9 drawbars). Unless I'm missing something, I don't think that's available as an 88-key unweighted board I am very interested in playing it one day...get me away from those addictive Yamaha pianos... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dan88z Posted October 31, 2007 Members Share Posted October 31, 2007 More lights=more coolness! BTW- you don't NEED a pedal to do the leslie sim on the Electro, you can hit the button. I hate using my hands to change speeds. Much easier to click a pedal and keep 2 hands on the board so you don't fall off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members akliner Posted October 31, 2007 Author Members Share Posted October 31, 2007 More lights=more coolness! BTW- you don't NEED a pedal to do the leslie sim on the Electro, you can hit the button. I hate using my hands to change speeds. Much easier to click a pedal and keep 2 hands on the board so you don't fall off. Yeah, but it'd just be easier if the speed was assigned to the MOD wheel. Much, much easier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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