GuitarPLayer61990

You're talking about the chinese oktavas, right?

GT55 kicks ass

It's a pretty good metal mix, one thing is that the drums could use more balls definitely, I love the guitar tones, and the vocals are too quiet (along with the bass guitar).

Not to be a jerk, but this has been bothering me a little bit. The whole idea is you critique the person BEFORE your post- tell them what their song could use, and then post your own. All i've seen is 2 pages of continuous posts, with no one offering any advice to anyone else.

The drums are way too far back, there's a lot of reverb. It sounds like the kick is all midrange too, you might want to scoop some stuff out. Theres a lot of reverb in general, you could definitely cut back on that.

First off, all I can say is wayyyyyy too much reverb over all. The vocals are really loud and huge sounding with the reverb, and the guitar is kinda drowned in the reverb.

Originally posted by marcuscurtis If you can't hear the bass track above the guitar or piano track. Then whoever recorded the song screwed it up. Playing a million chords over a bass line is annoying to my too. But that does not mean that I should limit my chords to just three notes if you can not hear the bass line. I am a bass player as well. The bass and the guitar rhythm sections have got to work off each other and fit together. It should be a team effort in the suport of the song not a compitition. Marcus Yes, but it's not a matter of volume. Live or recorded, it's about making room for bass. If the piano player is comping chords that stomp all over the bass, not volume wise but harmonically, there's not much room for a bassist to walk lines or do anything. That's my point.

Originally posted by IsildursBane Really? I guess my jazz teachers were wrong. They were always telling me to leave out notes. -Dan. I couldn't agree more. As a bass player, the most annoying thing is when either a pianist or a guitarist is comping a million chords, but with all extensions and everything, getting in the way of my walking, leaving no room for me to do anything. The bass player should be pushing the band, so why have someone try and cover them up? That applies to everything, not just bass, but yes, less is more a lot of times.

I totally agree with you. As for the singer- about, eh, 2-3 weeks before he sang, he actually had surgery on his nose. He had a pretty nasally voice, and part of it was because his septum wasn't inline. They had to move that, and clear a whole buttload of tissue and other nasty things out of his nose. His voice got a lot better, but it was still draining from what I've been told. I'm gonna have to mess around with some eq to see if I can pull some yucky high end out.

Hey man, you've got some real nice stuff Some suggestions- The drums are pretty quiet, turn those up and give the kick a low end boost like 60-80hz. The guitars I'd pan a little more to the right for a wider image. And make the vocals a little louder, the guitars seem louder than the vox. Those should make it sound quite a bit better, give it a shot and post a remix!

It's a pretty cool song, but in general, the whole thing came off as kind of brittle and harsh; there was no real "warmth" I guess, I know that terms becoming such a cliche, but it holds true for this. That, and it was a wee bit noisy, but nice try man and keep it up. Do you think you could critique my mix? It's the post right above yours.

As for replying to someone else who asked for something to be critiqued, this is for The*Ataris Man, this doesn't sound bad at all- The thing that sticks out the most to me are the guitars, it seems like they're swallowing everything. The vocals sound like the were placed to fit in between the guitars, not the guitars to be placed around them. The drums are a little quiet and a little weak- the bass guitar swallows the low end on the mix, but the song is cool and I'll have to give you props for it. As for a quick what I would fix- Turn the guitars down, and maybe take some high end out, turn the vocals up, and for god sake, turn that mofoing kick up try giving it a bigger boost at 60hz if you haven't already. What's your setup? Great potential to be an awesome mix!

Hey all, I'm Danny (I'm 16) and I just finished my latest mix two days ago. Here we go- Drums were- Pearl Export set, Paiste Ride and Hi Hat (both jazz cymbals), and a Sabian AA crash. The snare was a brand I can't remember, but a jazz snare too. And btw, the intro was done with hot rods and mallets (For cymbal rolls and toms, after he switches to hot rods), and then in the tom breakdown he goes to sticks. It was recorded as follows [iNTO FIREPOD]- Kick- AKGD112 Snare-Shure SM57 Hi and Floor Tom- SM57 OH L&R- Oktava MC-012 Bass- Fender Mexican DI into Firepod Acoustics- Taylor (Model?)- SPB1, double tracked Keys- Yamaha P120, stereo outs into DI into firepod Vocals- SPB1 The kick, snare, acoustics, keys, and vocals were ran into the Mackie VLZ Pro pres. Not a bad sound. It took me about four or five hours to mix this yesterday. I started with acoustics, then vocals, bass, overheads, keys, kick, snare, toms, etc. I had to rape the acoustic eq so I could get the toms and vocals to fit in perfectly. There's a small tiny bit of clashing (I think) but I am very, very happy with how this turned out. But with that said, this is probably my best mix ever. it can be found at Parkhaven Productions it's called "one year" And as we all know, myspace has crappy streaming, so if anyone would be willing to host the file for me, send me a PM, or instant message at guitarplayer1627 (the latter is preferable) Thanks! Danny

Also, where does the bulk of the best recordable tone come from a cello? I'm an upright bass player, and I know that from there it's around the F Holes, or bridge area (to get that deep sound) but I don't know if it differs on cello.

cello as an overdub to a acoustic pop rock tune. Drums, bass, acoustic guitar, vocals, and some small electric parts, pretty much the standard band. Thanks for the help!

Originally posted by Ethan Winer Danny, Much more important than which mike you use is the sound of the room you record in, and how far away the cello and the mikes are from reflective surfaces. A good condenser mike like the AT2020 should do a stellar job in a good room. Or will you be recording in an auditorium? Skip the toob nonsense and just aim to capture the cleanest signal you can. You can always dirty it up later, though I can't imagine why you'd want to! If the cello is as good as you imply, you probably won't need any EQ. But don't make the mistake of putting the mikes too close. Cellos (and violins etc) radiate different frequency ranges in different directions. So you need to be far enough back to capture all of it. My home studio is large - 33 by 18 feet with a 12 foot ceiling at the peak - and I get a great cello sound with an X/Y pair of AT4033 mikes about four feet in front of the cello. Note that this is not how I recorded my cello for the Rondo video. In that case I wanted a close-miked pop music sound, so I put one mike about a foot away from the top of the fingerboard. I hope this helps! --Ethan Thanks a lot, it's real informative! As for the room, it's just a pretty untreated basement. Should I attempt to put some carpets up to try and kill the excess reflections? I don't want to put an awesome cello in a mediocre room- but I have no access to any other places. The way I figured is to try and get a good dry signal and add reverb after, as opposed to a room with some small reflections and then add reverb later- might screw around with it. I've also been advised to try a SDC first (The MC-012), but since I have no idea where I was starting from, I think I'll try your suggestion of the AT2020. I'm not sure what I should be listening for though, IE what the sweet spot is. Anyways, thanks a lot for the suggestions! Oh, and- should I atleast low cut the cello around something like 120hz so it doesn't muddy up anything? Danny

Mr Winer, I have been advised by another board member to send my question to you, so I'll post my original question here for you. It is cello related, and I have seen your video (quite impressive!) which is why I'm asking for your expert opinion [Original Post] I read and searched on this board and couldn't find too much on the subject. My question is, I'll be recording cello for an acoustic pop song (it does have drums and bass though) in the next month, and have a couple small concerns. It's a 200 year old cello and sounds amazing, and I have access to the following mics- Shure SM57 Shure SM58 Oktava MC-012 [2] AKG D112 SennheiserE602 Studio Projects B1 Audio Technica 2020 I have the option of running it through a Presonus tube pre, or just straight into the Firepod (we have 2). Also, I was wondering if anyone could post some eq suggestions/ what frequency does to the sound (IE, 200hz for body, cut 600hz for whatever) kind of suggestions as guidlines, along with any compression I could try (I've never even recorded any strings besides guitar before). [End Of Post] Any suggestions you could get me would be highly appreciated! ALSO- I realize this is a double post, I'm not sure if it's okay or not on the bored, so If it is, could a Mod please delete it for me please? Thanks! Danny

Flabby Choad That's clever, but it's too bad everyone would be like "Hahahahaha....your studios called Choad"

bah stupid buffalo all we have is chicken wings, hockey, and stupid newspapers! maybe next week it'll be in

Hey everybody, we settled on a name, found out it was taken, bought the domain and all it's possible variations, so we're good to go. And tomorrow is the day of the article (from what I'm told), so if it's up, I'll post a link to it, and all of you guys can read the "inspirational story of teens who built a recording studio as a cheaper alternative to bands in buffalo." Alright, maybe not that dramatic, but still- nice touch, eh?

I'm thinkin of some new names for now Im thinkin Studio 21 (recording and productions) cause that's the address number

Thanks everybody The other thing is... we get a very homelike vibe here {censored} Why couldn't this be like a band? Any name would work then

Hey all, I'm kind of in a bind... and this post might be a wee bit long, so if all of you don't like reading, then skip on. I work at a studio with my two friends. Someone from the Buffalo News approached us about doing an article on our studio (because we're teens, we started our own profitable business, and etc...); they also wanted to give us the covery story (well, it's for something called the next section.) We have our whole interview done, and its real freakin long too... so they have a lot of material to write from. Unfortunately, we are in a huge bind for a name. A year ago, we chose the name "Tanglewood Productions," but the {censored}ty part is, someone else has that name... and they're a huge studio too. My question is, even though I hate to ask, does anyone have any suggestions for a name? It has to be creative, but appeal to teenagers too. Not something like "Teenage Wasteland Studios," or "Dope Up Records," or even "69land Productions." It just has to be creative, and the sad part is we've gone through about 100 names that all suck. Thanks so much! Danny

We recorded at 96k one single plugin took 8% of the CPU I don't record at 96k anymore...

I suggest going to drumagog (don't remember their official website, try www.drumagog.com) And download their 14 day demo with the 4 samples in it. Try the kick sample, and mess around with that sample to see if you can get a more useable tone. A lot of time it's saved me in situations with bad sounding kicks in general.