Members Blackhell Posted July 24, 2009 Members Share Posted July 24, 2009 Well, I want to look into a new guitar, because I have one guitar with a Floyd Rose, but it's tuned to standard. I'm a HUGE Van Halen fan, and I want another guitar with a Floyd so I can do all that wicked EVH stuff. It'll probably have to be used, like an old Kramer or Charvel, because my budget is.........$250.:eek: I've been looking thru ebay, but I don't know what's a deal, and what's crap.:confused:It doesn't matter what pickup(s) are in it, because I'll just change it out for a GFS VEH. () It doesn't have to have a recessed trem, but it can't be a vintage trem. I'm a heavy bar user, and I think that vintage bridge will stay in tune right for me. I know EVH used a vintage bridge for Eruption and what not, but I'm not EVH. I'd perfer if it had two humbuckers or a humbucker in the bridge and a single in the neck. I hope you guys can help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Tawlks Posted July 24, 2009 Members Share Posted July 24, 2009 I own an ESP LTD MH400 which Is awesome and the trem is pretty good too. for van halen style playing, i'd reccomend a lower end LTD like a Mh50 or 100 or a M100 they both have Licenced Floyd rose's which will take a beating, also they're recessed. If you don't like LTDs then don't get one, and please don't flame me for vouching them lol. I'm guessing the EVH Wolfgang is out of your budget? great guitar. Maybe an OLP (cheaper version of musicman i think) Sqire affinity strat, buy locking tuners used for Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Blackhell Posted July 24, 2009 Author Members Share Posted July 24, 2009 Not bad ideas, but I was kinda going for an old super-strat. LTDs are okay, but I've never been a fan of the lower end models. Something this is close to what I want.http://cgi.ebay.com/Slightly-Used-Black-Hamer-Slammer-Electric-Guitar_W0QQitemZ120416715522QQcategoryZ33042QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp3907.m263QQ_trkparmsZalgo%3DSIC%26its%3DI%252BC%26itu%3DUCI%252BIA%252BUA%252BFICS%252BUFI%26otn%3D14%26po%3DLVIC%26ps%3D54 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members guitarboro Posted July 24, 2009 Members Share Posted July 24, 2009 Search Ebay for Peavey Tracer. They dont make them anymore, as far as I know. One without an aftermarket paintjob will run you 100-300 dollars. They even have a one humbucker version. Other versions have a kahler spyder double locking tremolo which is awesome. They are made in usa and have pretty cool necks to. the backof the neck is fairly flat and a little wide. Some are 24 scale and some are 25. I think the 24 fret version is 24in scale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members guitarboro Posted July 24, 2009 Members Share Posted July 24, 2009 sorry for the postx2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Tawlks Posted July 24, 2009 Members Share Posted July 24, 2009 Thanks. I've never actually played a M or Mh other than the 400 series but my frontman has a viper 50 and it's not bad. A 2nd hand fart strat HSS would be awesome. about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Tawlks Posted July 24, 2009 Members Share Posted July 24, 2009 that's GuitarAmpKeyboard by the way turns out they're not doing it anymore =/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members -Assy- Posted July 24, 2009 Members Share Posted July 24, 2009 old kramers old charvels peavey : nitro, predator, impact, falcon, vandenberg, tracer all have kahler tremolos, which, debatably, are as good if not better than OFRs.http://cgi.ebay.com/Peavey-Falcon-ele-guitar_W0QQitemZ110409101947QQcmdZViewItemQQptZGuitar?hash=item19b4e5327b&_trksid=p3286.m20.l1116 i talked him down to 250 about a month ago, im sure you could do it again. you cannot beat that for a hand-crafted in USA axe with all AWESOME hardware and great construction. you could probaly even get him to 200 with the best offer option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Darkstorm Posted July 24, 2009 Members Share Posted July 24, 2009 Youd have to be extremely lucky to find a decent guitar even used that had a good trem on it. That said, closest thing I can think of would be one of the entry level Jackson Imports with jackson lic floyd trem on it. For good qaulity with good (imo better then floyd trem and certainly better then vintage style fender trem on it). Overall your being unrealistic in thinking you'll find a guitar like your looking for in your price range. The Jackson KJS30 and Jackson JS30DK are only ones I can think of that meet qaulity required and possible close to your price range in used market. But expect to spend at least $300 plus gig bag or hard case for a used guitar that will do what you want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Members -Assy- Posted July 24, 2009 Members Share Posted July 24, 2009 http://musicgoround.com/detail.aspx?id=738712 kahler spyder trem, handcrafted in usa, under 250. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GibsonQC Posted July 24, 2009 Members Share Posted July 24, 2009 Seriously, though, get a Kramer Focus 3000, 2000, or 6000. MIJ, Original Floyd Rose, Alder bodies, and great playing neck, some even had original SD pickups standard. F1000 - 1 hum, angledF2000 - 2 humsF3000 - Strat style with pickguard, 1 hum, 2 single coilsF6000 - "superstrat" no p/g, bridge hum angled, 2 single coils Make sure it has the Original Floyd on it. Many people harvest parts off Foci and replace the parts with garbage. The Strikers from the mid-late 80's used VERY shiitty "Floyd II" trems that were single locking and had knife edges made from pot metal. Avoid those like the plague. Or, a Sambora MIM strat or Fender MIJ "Squier" Floyd Rose Strat isn't a bad alternative... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Blackhell Posted July 24, 2009 Author Members Share Posted July 24, 2009 How much different is a Kahler Spider to an OFR? Does it still go out of tune with big bends? If saw a few decent deals on Ebay, like an Epiphone LP Studio with a Floyd. I can wait until September after my birthday, because I'll have more money then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RaVenCAD Posted July 24, 2009 Members Share Posted July 24, 2009 Seriously, though, get a Kramer Focus 3000, 2000, or 6000. MIJ, Original Floyd Rose, Alder bodies, and great playing neck, some even had original SD pickups standard. F1000 - 1 hum, angledF2000 - 2 humsF3000 - Strat style with pickguard, 1 hum, 2 single coilsF6000 - "superstrat" no p/g, bridge hum angled, 2 single coilsMake sure it has the Original Floyd on it. Many people harvest parts off Foci and replace the parts with garbage. The Strikers from the mid-late 80's used VERY shiitty "Floyd II" trems that were single locking and had knife edges made from pot metal. Avoid those like the plague.Or, a Sambora MIM strat or Fender MIJ "Squier" Floyd Rose Strat isn't a bad alternative... Ya beat me to the Kramer Focus suggestion.. But, I did find a link at least! http://cgi.ebay.com/Kramer-Focus-3000-electric-guitar-made-in-USA_W0QQitemZ300332254677QQcmdZViewItemQQptZGuitar?hash=item45ed3285d5&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A12%7C66%3A2%7C39%3A1%7C72%3A2125%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50 $250, buy it now.. Can't go wrong there, assuming the condition is good.. Ignore the "made in USA" claim.. The seller is obviously an idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Blackhell Posted July 24, 2009 Author Members Share Posted July 24, 2009 How about these? I bought my Douglas from Rondo before, and it's a steal, IMO for the price.http://www.rondomusic.com/seg1ash.htmlhttp://www.rondomusic.com/product2647.htmlhttp://www.rondomusic.com/segstdplus.html I love Vs. Especally, the Rhoads V. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RaVenCAD Posted July 24, 2009 Members Share Posted July 24, 2009 Let's see.. Old school MIJ Kramer vs. brand new MIC SX.. Yeah, not even close.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Blackhell Posted July 24, 2009 Author Members Share Posted July 24, 2009 Let's see.. Old school MIJ Kramer vs. brand new MIC SX.. Yeah, not even close.. If I can find an MIJ Kramer, and it be in decent condition. I'll have to call up the one store around here. They had a Kramer Focus St200 I think. That was a month or so ago, but if memory serves me well, it had 2 humuckers, and a Floyd Rose with a bannah headstock. All black, with a rosewood fingerboard. I don't know the price. I'll call and ask if they still have it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RaVenCAD Posted July 24, 2009 Members Share Posted July 24, 2009 An "st200" would more than likrly be a Striker 200st, which is a piece of plywood junk.. They were Korean made long before that was a good thing. At any price, it's overpriced and not what you want in this genre of guitars..http://www.vintagekramer.com/company42.htm The link I posted is a Focus 3000 for $250..http://www.vintagekramer.com/focus.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Blackhell Posted July 25, 2009 Author Members Share Posted July 25, 2009 It said Focus on the headstock, but like I said, I'm not sure if it was 2000 or an 200ST. I believe it was 2000 now that I think about. My mom's friend has a Kramer Focus 111, and she gave it to me to sell. It was her son's but he didn't want it or something, but I have it in my basement with the rest of my gear. I'd buy it, but it doesn't have the Floyd Rose. Nice neck, tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Blackhell Posted July 25, 2009 Author Members Share Posted July 25, 2009 What about a Vanguard? What are chances of getting one that cheap? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RaVenCAD Posted July 25, 2009 Members Share Posted July 25, 2009 Which Vanguard? The old school Gibson-esque one or the newer one that looks like a Jackson? In the former, pretty tough to find a cheap one unless it's on death's door, in the latter, pretty easy to find but still not going to be $250.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Blackhell Posted July 25, 2009 Author Members Share Posted July 25, 2009 The Rhoady kind is the one I'm thinking of. Like the one in the Vintage Kramer link. It's a Focus 4000 Vanguard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RaVenCAD Posted July 25, 2009 Members Share Posted July 25, 2009 The old ones fetch pretty decent money and are hard to find. Frankly, before I threw $1000 at a Kramer, I'd get a Carvin Ultra V.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Blackhell Posted July 25, 2009 Author Members Share Posted July 25, 2009 I know a dude who major problems with his Carvin. It was the LP style one. He might take them to small-claims court, because they won't give him a refund, and they won't fix the guitar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members shredtilurded Posted July 25, 2009 Members Share Posted July 25, 2009 The old ones fetch pretty decent money and are hard to find. Frankly, before I threw $1000 at a Kramer, I'd get a Carvin Ultra V.. You're slipping bro, it took you like 3-4 posts B4 you suggested buying a Carvin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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