Members meccajay Posted August 3, 2009 Members Share Posted August 3, 2009 Just to clarify, we are talking about Mars landings, right? No were talking about fried cheese on a stick! *yum* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members the stranger Posted August 4, 2009 Members Share Posted August 4, 2009 On 9/10/01, Dick Cheney announced the Pentagon had a few trillion missing. Not much was said after that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members the stranger Posted August 4, 2009 Members Share Posted August 4, 2009 Mars is a {censored}hole. Complete waste of time. Time travel, light speed travel, inter-dimensional travel, and the like would be far more useful than a trip to Mars. The most Mars has to offer is another mineral extraction slavestate and we already have one of those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jeff da Weasel Posted August 4, 2009 Members Share Posted August 4, 2009 Mars is a {censored}hole. Complete waste of time. Time travel, light speed travel, inter-dimensional travel, and the like would be far more useful than a trip to Mars. Crawl, then walk, then run. We've done pretty well in the last 150 years, right? We didn't need to skip ahead to screwing with the space-time continuum to make some progress. Getting people off one planet and onto another seems like a good baby step. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members the stranger Posted August 4, 2009 Members Share Posted August 4, 2009 I'm not that patient. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Beck Posted August 4, 2009 Members Share Posted August 4, 2009 It already happened Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Members Jeff da Weasel Posted August 4, 2009 Members Share Posted August 4, 2009 I'm not that patient. Nothing really crazy is going to happen until long after you and I are long gone. We're just... filler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Members bp Posted August 4, 2009 Members Share Posted August 4, 2009 The most Mars has to offer is another mineral extraction slavestate and we already have one of those. So you believe in Martians? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members drewl Posted August 4, 2009 Members Share Posted August 4, 2009 There's no point in sending people to other planets when robots can do the job better and safer.Until we develop a much faster way of travelling through space, we're stuck in our puny little solar system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members UstadKhanAli Posted August 4, 2009 Members Share Posted August 4, 2009 Developing the tech that would be needed to get to Mars is something that should be done now. The benefits and discoveries will be useful in many areas here on Earth. Just think of what the tech impact has been from the moon program, the computer you're viewing this on being a small example. I was more thinking that we could wait a little while until our government had a little more money - unless, of course, such a venture, including laying the groundwork, would produce jobs or otherwise monetarily benefit us somehow. I'm a huge proponent of space exploration in general, and we have gotten a lot of great technology and insight from it, don't get me wrong. I just can't help but wonder whether waiting a year or two might be better. I don't have the answers to this, btw. I'm wondering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members the stranger Posted August 4, 2009 Members Share Posted August 4, 2009 So you believe in Martians? Actually, I just go to their church because it's the closest one to my house.They have a nice service and free donuts, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Beck Posted August 4, 2009 Members Share Posted August 4, 2009 Actually, I just go to their church because it's the closest one to my house.They have a nice service and free donuts, too. Are you sure you're not thinking of the Martin Lutherans? That's what I was raised in... a real big one... stained glass, high ceilings, stone walls, stone and wooden pillars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members coyote-1 Posted August 4, 2009 Members Share Posted August 4, 2009 IMO the very first step is NOT the space station; Mir and Skylab showed us that would be a failure. The first step is back to the moon. Set up residence there; learn how to garden in low gravity before trying it in no gravity. Set up an interferometer the size of the Moon itself. You think we're getting good images from Hubble? Wait til you see what we can get from a virtual objective 1500 miles in diameter. From that, we would indeed be able to see planets orbiting other stars. That would be necessary if we were ever to consider leaving this solar system. But also, there's no way to construct an interplanetary craft here on Earth. The amount of stuff needed for a trip to Mars and back would require an enormous ship, and the fuel required to generate sufficient thrust to get such a ship out of Earth orbit would make the thing too heavy to get off the ground. Nope, no trip to Mars will be happening in our lifetimes. It would have required colonization of the Moon in order to collect resources and manufacture there. As with the move away from fossil fuels, we've wasted 30+ years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members girevik Posted August 4, 2009 Members Share Posted August 4, 2009 During the Moon Landing Anniversary Week, it was speculated that what drove the US to send astronauts to the Moon was competition from a rival superpower. According to this article, China wants to go to Mars. Like, srsly http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/china/5960684/China-bans-bad-breath-in-space.html China has an ambitious programme to assemble a space station and launch a mission first to the moon and then to Mars. If nothing else gets America off its butt and on to Mars, it'll be China. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Lucky #9 Posted August 5, 2009 Members Share Posted August 5, 2009 Uh...check my avatar...I have been orbiting the Red Planet for several years now. I would enjoy the company. It is our destiny to go to Mars...and beyond. In a Nostradamus book I read several years ago, the author interpreted several of the quatrains as pertaining to Mars. There is an section that says we will, indeed, go to Mars. The first mission will be a multi-nation secret effort that will be disasterous. A follow-up mission, I believe it was an attempt to save remnants of the first, was successful. The book, of which I don't remember the title or author, was written in the late 90s and dealt with this century. It was spot-on about the trouble in the mideast that has occured to date, and predicts great conflict up until the middle of this century, after millions have died. While primarily dealing with these 100 years. the author did make a comment about a couple of other future events predicted by the doctor that would occur a couple of centuries from now. One was that because of something we created, many would be fleeing earth. But he did not develop the idea much further than that. As interesting as a "WayBack" machine would be (some of you may remember the cartoon series I am referring to), I would like to book a seat on a "WayForward" machine. "Live Long and Prosper," fellow Earthlings. Though we may actually be transplanted Martians. As the planet died, we moved on to the great blue orb we now call home. Whether we got here on our own, well, I'll never tell. But in any event, as Dag Hammarskjold once said: "The longest journey is the journey inwards. Of him who has chosen his destiny, Who has started upon his quest for the source of his being." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jeff Leites Posted August 5, 2009 Author Members Share Posted August 5, 2009 Though we may actually be transplanted Martians. As the planet died, we moved on to the great blue orb we now call home." Wait a minute... we had the technology to move from Mars to Earth, but when we got here, our technology was at the stone age level? Yeah, I know, I left out the part about not getting here on our own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jeff da Weasel Posted August 5, 2009 Members Share Posted August 5, 2009 Everyone here is made of atoms that came from stars. You're all made up of stuff that didn't originate on this planet in any case. Could be just passing through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members meccajay Posted August 5, 2009 Members Share Posted August 5, 2009 But in any event, as Dag Hammarskjold once said:"The longest journey is the journey inwards. Of him who has chosen his destiny, Who has started upon his quest for the source of his being." The Oceans my friend.. We start with the oceans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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