Members Woody_in_MN Posted October 12, 2009 Members Share Posted October 12, 2009 Guys, I am thinking of returning my Vypyr (SS) and am looking for suggestions for a 40w+ tube amp to compliment the Vox AD30VT (Valvetronics) I just got. Now here is the though part. I want something under 40 lbs (around 30 lbs would be perfect). I'd also like a tube amp that has some modeling available. (Picky devil - aren't I?) Ideas? Thanks, - W Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Burgess Posted October 12, 2009 Members Share Posted October 12, 2009 I play a Rivera Clubster 45-112 combo. Nice amp. Small size, big sound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Woody_in_MN Posted October 12, 2009 Author Members Share Posted October 12, 2009 ^^^ OK. I have not heard of that one. BTW - I am looking for a combo. Should have said that up front. Thanks, - W Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members d_dave_c Posted October 12, 2009 Members Share Posted October 12, 2009 Spider Valve? Get it for $600 w/ the 20% off at MF. I have never played one, but I don't know what else is out there with tubes and modeling if you're returning a Vypyr. Personally, I'd go one way or the other - either get a tube amp and some pedals, or a modeler and a power engine or a powerblock or something. Edit: Just noticed it's 45 lbs. - maybe get one of these, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members matt rhoades Posted October 12, 2009 Members Share Posted October 12, 2009 I would just get a peavey classic 30 its very portable can get very loud. Its a great gigging amp imo. I have a lot of effect pedals with mine i think they are easier to use than modeling amps when you play live. The valve king is not a bad amp either im still not done modding my up but it has a great fender sounding clean and a very useable dirt channel with a boast. You could gig one with out a pedal board if you wanted to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Les Paul Lover Posted October 12, 2009 Members Share Posted October 12, 2009 Bogner alchemist? Not great, but as a lot a variety in it. The point of modeler is compensating the quality of the tone by offering a variety of them. Once you get nice tube amps, you don't get much modeling because you sacrifice that versatility for increased tone quality. And to get that nice analog signal, you have to eliminate/reduce the digital processing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Woody_in_MN Posted October 12, 2009 Author Members Share Posted October 12, 2009 Thanks for the suggestions guys. The Peavey classic 30 was something I thought of before, but was a bit concerned about weight. Thanks, - W Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DrFunk123 Posted October 12, 2009 Members Share Posted October 12, 2009 How about this new Mesa Mark V? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Angry Tele Posted October 12, 2009 Members Share Posted October 12, 2009 the wieght is mostly in the speakers so look for a 1x10, 1x12, or 1x15. I wouldn't use weight or watts as a deciding factor though. Thats why I play a twin reverb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members F.D. Neighbors Posted October 12, 2009 Members Share Posted October 12, 2009 RIVERA CHUBSTER 40 Well made tube amp with a Fendery clean channel and a Marshally 2nd channel. Effects loop plays well with modelers, although sounds great straight thru! Highly recomended. Read the reviews... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Doctor Morbius Posted October 12, 2009 Members Share Posted October 12, 2009 The new Fender amps have a solid state preamp section with some modeling and a tube driven power stage. They're kind of pricey because they're new but it may be worth looking into. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sheraton Posted October 12, 2009 Members Share Posted October 12, 2009 Fender Deluxe VMhttp://www.fender.com/products/search.php?partno=2220000000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Doctor Morbius Posted October 12, 2009 Members Share Posted October 12, 2009 Fender Deluxe VMhttp://www.fender.com/products/search.php?partno=2220000000Greg Koch cracks me up. [YOUTUBE]Djl2s0RVo5M[/YOUTUBE] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tartanphantom Posted October 12, 2009 Members Share Posted October 12, 2009 Kustom Defender -- 50 Watts, runs either EL34 or 6L6 power tubes, master bypass switch, reverb, fingerjointed pine cabinet with birch baffle, 1x12 speaker, adjustable boost circuit. Weighs less than 40lbs. Assembled in USA from domestic and imported components (like every other "USA-made" amp). Kustom website-- Defender amp Link to owner's manual: Kustom Defender Owner's Manual (PDF) [YOUTUBE][/YOUTUBE] [YOUTUBE][/YOUTUBE] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bro Blue Posted October 12, 2009 Members Share Posted October 12, 2009 Peavey Valveking 1x12 or Classic 30. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members metallica_00 Posted October 12, 2009 Members Share Posted October 12, 2009 If you're going to get a tube amp, get a tube amp. It will be a better complement to a modeler you already have. Second, why 40 watts? Do you play loud metal or need tons of clean headroom? If not, you should really think about lower wattage amps. A deluxe reverb, which is 22w, is quite loud. Finally - physical size - I hate to say it, but sometimes small cab sizes can be real killers particularly with weak bass response. Tube amps are inherently heavy. And what do you want as far as channel switching, master volume, what kind of music do you plan to play, etc? Doesn't seem like you really know what you want. Don't buy for the sake of buying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frets99 Posted October 12, 2009 Share Posted October 12, 2009 OMG - Very Magnificent indeed!!:lol:Those people have issues...I'm dying here!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Doctor Morbius Posted October 12, 2009 Members Share Posted October 12, 2009 OMG - Very Magnificent indeed!! :lol: Those people have issues... I'm dying here!!!! I know. He's insane. I wanna party with that dude! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frets99 Posted October 12, 2009 Share Posted October 12, 2009 Peavey Valveking 1x12 or Classic 30. I always like plugging into a Valveking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members matt rhoades Posted October 12, 2009 Members Share Posted October 12, 2009 I would like to try out some of those kustom amps i know the guy that made the classic 30 works for them now. The classic 30 is not much bigger than a regular speaker cab I would say it weighs less than 50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members VanR Posted October 12, 2009 Members Share Posted October 12, 2009 I always like plugging into a Valveking. Me too. Used mine for a gig Sat. night. I don't think it gets along very well with the Vintage 30 I installed though as it was sounding a little thin until I backed off the mids some. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Woody_in_MN Posted October 12, 2009 Author Members Share Posted October 12, 2009 If you're going to get a tube amp, get a tube amp. It will be a better complement to a modeler you already have.Second, why 40 watts? Do you play loud metal or need tons of clean headroom? If not, you should really think about lower wattage amps. A deluxe reverb, which is 22w, is quite loud.Finally - physical size - I hate to say it, but sometimes small cab sizes can be real killers particularly with weak bass response. Tube amps are inherently heavy.And what do you want as far as channel switching, master volume, what kind of music do you plan to play, etc? Doesn't seem like you really know what you want. Don't buy for the sake of buying. Well when you say "you seem like you don't know what you really want" - there is some truth there. I have yet to own a true tube amp. I enjoy the ease of the presets that I have in my SS amps. I guess I am resisting change a bit - not 100% comfortable leaving the modeling behind. There are always pedals, and I have a few of those I like. I am mainly looking to get some ideas. I have kind of thought thru the options that I know about, but want to see what other people can come up with. To answer you question on style - I come up to the line of "Metal" - but I don't think I really cross over. But Metal is a relitive ting. Maybe to some people I am playing metal. Hard to quantify. Thanks for the ideas guys. - W Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Seeds Posted October 12, 2009 Members Share Posted October 12, 2009 Classic 30 is a good choice but 30 Watts (tube) can be overkill unless your playing out. Tube amps even in the 5 Watt range can blow you out of your house when cranked. I gigged with a 18 watt amp in some fairly decent sized rooms and had plenty of volume left over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Woody_in_MN Posted October 12, 2009 Author Members Share Posted October 12, 2009 Classic 30 is a good choice but 30 Watts (tube) can be overkill unless your playing out. Tube amps even in the 5 Watt range can blow you out of your house when cranked.I gigged with a 18 watt amp in some fairly decent sized rooms and had plenty of volume left over. Well - that is a good point. I would think (hope) that there would be a master volume besides a volume to help control the overkill. - W Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DaleH Posted October 12, 2009 Members Share Posted October 12, 2009 For Fender cleans you could try the new Bandmaster VM 40 wat Head. or Deluxe VM combo same amp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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