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Steinberger Spirit or Agile?


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Well I just graduated and of course I have gotten a lot of money as presents. I am looking to expand my guitar collection again. I only want to spend 400-500 dollars so nothing insanely fancy.

 

I think I have it narrowed down to an Agile AL-3100 (because I can't stand the inlays on the 3000s) and a Steinberger Spirit.

 

I haven't played an Agile of course but I did play a Spirit at a Gibson factory when I went to memphis and I enjoyed it but I don't remember it well enough to justify it as the winner. I was too distracted by the Gibson guitars :p

 

I want a humbucker or p90 sound. I play blues/classic rock/psych/etc type music. I know that kind of throws the steinberger out but I still am interested in buying a spirit at least.

 

Buck Dharma from my favorite band Blue Oyster Cult plays a steinberger and that is really what sparked my interest.

 

I have an Epiphone Dot and Fender Strat as my main guitars right now. I want something different and solid.

 

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They do? I wasn't really thinking about it weight wise but that actually makes me happy. I played one but I don't remember it well. A lot was going on. I remember being surprised by the playability. It was comfortable as well.

 

I have heard that agiles are great but that they aren't much different than an Epiphone. I have an Epiphone Dot Deluxe that I love the tone of already so I don't know if an agile will give me a diverse sound.

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Don't let the small size fool you. A Steinberger Spirit weighs ten pounds - Les Paul heavy.

 

 

 

 

Weight is right at 7 pounds with Spirit inside standard Steinberger soft bag case complete with tremolo bar and tools.

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I enjoy the pups in my Epi. Sometimes a bit muddy but not enough to justify changing. If the agiles are the same way, I don't know if I would want to invest in changing them, I am kind of on a tight budget due to recoording equipment. Does anyone know anything about Steinberger pups?

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Epiphone Limited Edition Les Paul Special

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If you know what a Les Paul Special is, then you will know that this is a hell of a deal. Single cutaway body with P90 pickups. I've played one of these at Guitar Center at it was quite an excellent guitar for the money. Beats $1599 for the Gibson LP Special reissue for value.

 

 

$399 (new) Cherry or TV Yellow

 

http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Epiphone-Limited-Edition-Les-Paul-Special-SC-Electric-Guitar?sku=584590

 

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    Get the Spirit. Once you get used to a headless, you'll wonder why the whole industry hasn't moved to it.

     

    The only thing I don't like on the Spirit is the pickups, but then again you're choosing between that an an Agile... no matter which you get the pups will be your first upgrade priority anyway.

     

    (And with a name like "NinjaModder", I'm guessing the need to upgrade pickups doesn't scare you.)

     

    An Agile is a pretty well-made LP copy, but Steinies are both awesome and unique. Easy choice, as far as I'm concerned.

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    So it is strat weight? That isn't too bad. Better than what I expected.

     

     

    The Steinberger broom shaped guitars are all maple -- mainly cuz they have to be hard. I own one. It's like playing a little sculpture. ;)

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    Epiphone Limited Edition Les Paul Special

    648012.jpg686773.jpg

     

    If you know what a Les Paul Special is, then you will know that this is a hell of a deal. Single cutaway body with P90 pickups. I've played one of these at Guitar Center at it was quite an excellent guitar for the money. Beats $1599 for the Gibson LP Special reissue for value.

     

     

    $399 (new) Cherry or TV Yellow

     

    http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Epiphone-Limited-Edition-Les-Paul-Special-SC-Electric-Guitar?sku=584590

     

       

      Yeah... I played one. The TV Yellow is not what I expected. It looks nice in the picture but in person its bright horrid yellow. I kind of liked it but I would rather buy the Agile copy for 250 dollars.

       

       

       

      I think I'm going with the Steinberger. I kind of had my mind made up before hand, just wanted some support. :p

       

      And I figured they will need upgrading. I was planning on maybe throwing a few BG pickups in them or maybe GF if they are better..

       

      And NinjaModder became my name when I used to mod video games :p I have drastically changed interests and have just got into the technical part of guitars. Mainly with amps though.

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    i have an agile al2800 and a steinberger.

     

    both are good instruments, but if i had to choose one, the steinberger would win by a wide margin.

     

    the steinberger has a fantastic trem that you can lock down (but i never do), stays in tune no matter what you do to it, and is unique. sure you have to buy strings with a little more forethought, but it hasnt been a problem for me. i can find steinberger strings online or at a couple of local music stores and i buy a few sets at a time.

     

    an lp copy i can get any time, anywhere, in any color, and so does everyone else.

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    And I figured they will need upgrading. I was planning on maybe throwing a few BG pickups in them or maybe GF if they are better...

     

     

     

    It's true that the EMG "Select" pickups aren't anything to write home about, but they sure aren't horrible. If you get the Spirit model with H-S-H pickups, you could replace just the two humbuckers and leave the EMG Select single coil in the middle.

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    Don't let the small size fool you. A Steinberger Spirit weighs ten pounds - Les Paul heavy.

     

     

    Not mine. More like 7 lbs as Reality Check mentioned. The Spirit is a great guitar due to it's size - forget any other comparable travel guitar.

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    Don't let the small size fool you. A Steinberger Spirit weighs ten pounds - Les Paul heavy.

     

    Mine doesn't...nowhere near it.

     

    The Spirit is a GREAT guitar, really well designed and usable with a great trem.

     

    It being so light is a big plus point for me.

     

    :thu:

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    So what type of pup would be suited to replace the humbuckers? Would BG or GFS work? I know they aren't EMG but would they work or be better than the stock ones?


    Also there is the question of black or white
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    I have a Hohner G2T (basically the Spirit before there was a Spirit - I've been told that these were actually rebadged by a Steinie-owned factory) and it also also had the cheap EMGs in it. I replaced them with the Seymour Duncan double-pack (JP bridge, Jazz neck) and haven't looked back. It's like playing the world's smallest SG, except with a terrific (lockable) floating trem, a two-octave fretboard, a zero fret, and no neck dive.

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    I liked my spirit a lot, does stay in tune, I did change two of the pickups to bartolinis on a whim (they had them at the local shop), the stockers aren't real expressive. Great travel guitar and I'm on the road every week so... Had it 3 or four years. But i sold it after I got a Synapse at Gibson's store in Nashville. That one has real EMG's, very dark sounding guitar though, no whammy but it takes any tuning and still perfect intonation. Very cool compared to a lot of guitars that sound bad when you detune. Since I only have it on the road and play songs from a lot of different bands with different tunings I love it. Super quick and easy to tune. I put SD Dave Mustaines in there and it brightened up and got really lively, those are great pups! Get that springy Single coil vibe with a high output active humbucker, they are more musical comared to the EMG's in that guitar. one last thing the Spirit is a little wierd standing up playing, it wants to roll away and the body sharp edge digs your ribs. The Synapse is relieved in the back and has a metal arm forward to the strap attatchment so it hangs like any other guitar. I have read a lot about quality control problems with thesteinberger guitars so if yours ain't right get it replaced right away, both of mine were very well made.

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