Members isuck Posted March 7, 2011 Members Share Posted March 7, 2011 upgrading my sons epi sg. Should I go with http://bcsguitars.com/?page_id=1702 or. http://cgi.ebay.com/Premium-Prewired-Gibson-SG-Wiring-Upgrade-Harness-/200569346218?pt=Guitar_Accessories&hash=item2eb2dd58aa Thanks for the help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members xStonr Posted March 7, 2011 Members Share Posted March 7, 2011 Both seem rather expensive to me. The parts used on both are quality so if you don't want to do it yourself, get the one that's less expensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tiltsta Posted March 7, 2011 Members Share Posted March 7, 2011 Hmmm. I'd be a little wary of buying stuff like that off ebay, but I am kind of cautious about stuff like that. Anyway, they both seem like really great set ups. Problem is, I have a hard time dropping a hundred bucks woth of wire and such into a fairly cheap guitar with mediocre pickups. If it were my money, I'd go with a SG kit from mojotone for like 50 bucks, and plan on new pickups later, or just drop a hundred on new pickups and keep the current wiring, with a plan on upgrading that in the future. You save about 30 bucks by doing it yourself. http://www.mojotone.com/guitar-parts/Guitar-Kits/2113382 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members webwarmiller Posted March 7, 2011 Members Share Posted March 7, 2011 Changing outs Pots and switches really won't change the sound any (the caps can, however). You switch those out for reliability reasons and because they generally have a more solid feel to them. I wouldn't bother changing them out simply on there own. If you change pickups then at that time I would go ahead an upgrade the pots/switches. For $35 (+ shipping from Warmoth) you can get 4 CTS 500K long shaft pots, a LP toggle switch w/ tips (angled or straight), and a Switchcraft jack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members LesPaulFetish Posted March 7, 2011 Members Share Posted March 7, 2011 For $35 (+ shipping from Warmoth) you can get 4 CTS 500K long shaft pots, a LP toggle switch w/ tips (angled or straight), and a Switchcraft jack. There ya go. Some father son bonding time putting it together too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members isuck Posted March 7, 2011 Author Members Share Posted March 7, 2011 There ya go. Some father son bonding time putting it together too Great Idea ordering now. Maybe we will both learn something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cratz2 Posted March 7, 2011 Members Share Posted March 7, 2011 Wow... that $120 get up seems pretty pricey... You have upgraded the pickups in the Epi, right? $125 used to buy a set of Gibson 57 Classics. I'm a big believer in quality pots, switches and caps but hell... I probably have only spent $200 or so upgrading ALL the posts, caps and switches in all of my ~12 or so guitars. For my input, unless the pickups have already been upgraded and he unless he already has a great amp, you'll probably only get a 1% or 2% improvement with either of those electronics upgrades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members isuck Posted March 7, 2011 Author Members Share Posted March 7, 2011 Wow... that $120 get up seems pretty pricey... You have upgraded the pickups in the Epi, right? $125 used to buy a set of Gibson 57 Classics.I'm a big believer in quality pots, switches and caps but hell... I probably have only spent $200 or so upgrading ALL the posts, caps and switches in all of my ~12 or so guitars.For my input, unless the pickups have already been upgraded and he unless he already has a great amp, you'll probably only get a 1% or 2% improvement with either of those electronics upgrades. We have not yet changed the pickups. It needs new pots 1st. The volume on the neck pickup is either off or on and the tone on the bridge is the same. I have ordered all the parts and am going to do it myself. He has two Ok amps. He plays through a digitech rp 355 and splits it to a epi vj and a vox pathfinder 15r. His 1st show with a band is end of the month and will be going rp355 to pa. Thanks for the input, saved me some money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members PunkKitty Posted March 7, 2011 Members Share Posted March 7, 2011 There are a few options if you don't want to do it yourself. Contact "vintage clubber" on this forum. He can set you up with a well made harness. I've also ordered from these guys with no problems. http://stores.ebay.com/Hoagland-Brothers-Guitar-Company?_rdc=1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Elias Graves Posted March 7, 2011 Members Share Posted March 7, 2011 SG needs short shaft pots. Also, if you switch to CTS pots, you will have to ream out the holes a bit. The shafts are larger diameter. EG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cratz2 Posted March 7, 2011 Members Share Posted March 7, 2011 SG needs short shaft pots. Also, if you switch to CTS pots, you will have to ream out the holes a bit. The shafts are larger diameter. EG Yeah... definitely short shafts and if you get American spec pots, you'll almost definitely need to ream the holes open a bit. And I wouldn't use a drill. I'd get a hand reamer or if you have a small round file, it will work... might drive yourself crazy with the slow going, but it will work. I've never had to ream mahogany so it might act a bit differently, but using a power drill to open up a hole in maple (such as on a strat neck) will likely not go the way you planned. Just get the reamer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sheraton Posted March 7, 2011 Members Share Posted March 7, 2011 It sounds like you have linear taper pots and you want audio taper. I know it's not what you asked, but if it was me, before I spend a couple hundred on pots, switches and pickups on what is a decent guitar for it's price point I'd consider selling it for $200-$250 and buy a used Gibson Faded for $450-$500. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members isuck Posted March 7, 2011 Author Members Share Posted March 7, 2011 It sounds like you have linear taper pots and you want audio taper. I know it's not what you asked, but if it was me, before I spend a couple hundred on pots, switches and pickups on what is a decent guitar for it's price point I'd consider selling it for $200-$250 and buy a used Gibson Faded for $450-$500. He has tried many a Gibson Faded and just keeps saying I like mine better. The Epi is MIK and seems to be built well. He has been playing it for almost 2 years now. Just a little disclaimer for everybody though. He is only 11. I think for is size the Epi fits him better. I have ordered pots, switch and a jack so I will start there for upgrades and change out the pickups some other time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cratz2 Posted March 7, 2011 Members Share Posted March 7, 2011 Yeah man... some of those older, Korean Epis are great. I have a 2002 LP Studio that I absolutely like more than any USA Gibson I've ever owned. If he likes it, keep it! I just wouldn't expect much improvement in the actual tone of the guitar with the electronics upgrade. Probably a little bit, but not nearly as much as changing to ANY other pickup. I know your upgrade is more for function than for tone and actually I got a great deal on my Epi LP because the one of the volume pots was bad and the switch was a bit wonky. I actually fixed the switch though. New volume pot and I was good as new. Upgraded the pickups to some used GFS Alnico IIs which were a lot more in line with what I usually use. Absolutely killer guitar for how pitifully little I have in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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