Members A. Einstein Posted November 29, 2011 Members Share Posted November 29, 2011 ....old jazz vs new jazz there isn't much new in Marsalis, he has a certain aestethic which is unique to him, but that's about it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members A. Einstein Posted November 29, 2011 Members Share Posted November 29, 2011 maybe the world needs a Wynton Marsalis to bring old Jazz to a broader public in a new package Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Lee Knight Posted November 29, 2011 Moderators Share Posted November 29, 2011 there isn't much new in Marsalis, he has a certain aestethic which is unique to him, but that's about it Yeah... I agree with you. Except for "but that's about it". The guy's musicality is there, man. No, he doesn't have that intangible explorer spirit of Dizzy. Or the exuberance of Louis, or the cool of Chet or the heart of Miles. But to dismiss with a "but that's about it" is over reaching in your criticism. Besides, I think it wise of any serious musician to pay respect to those musicians more equipped than us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members A. Einstein Posted November 29, 2011 Members Share Posted November 29, 2011 Ha! Now you are doing exactly the kind of elitist historical-only bias that the OP was talking about regarding classical vs jazz....old jazz vs new jazz...venturing into jazz nazi land..... Shall we discuss nicely renovated Steamboats, and eventually the nice Hot Jazz bands playing on them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members A. Einstein Posted November 29, 2011 Members Share Posted November 29, 2011 The guy's musicality is there, man. Absolutely! Shall we discuss now his renditions of European music, and how I perceive that as European? Or is that also too elitist for an American? We can of course also talk about the musicality of country bands from Thailand vs. Nashville or wherever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Lee Knight Posted November 29, 2011 Moderators Share Posted November 29, 2011 Or is that also too elitist for an American? Pretentious might a be better word? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members A. Einstein Posted November 29, 2011 Members Share Posted November 29, 2011 Pretentious might a be better word? Pretentious sound good too, just looked it up in the dictionary, will use this word more in the future Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members nat whilk II Posted November 30, 2011 Members Share Posted November 30, 2011 For me that era of the great in Jazz trimpetists is long over, unforunately for Jazz, but more or less a fact,However, for example Pat Metheny is a new star on the Jazz firmament, a novum Interesting you would mention Metheny in this context - he does play electric guitar with very trumpet-like phrasing and attack. nat whilk ii Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members A. Einstein Posted November 30, 2011 Members Share Posted November 30, 2011 Interesting you would mention Metheny in this context - he does play electric guitar with very trumpet-like phrasing and attack. nat whilk ii didn't hear one Clifford Brown phrase in Pat Metheny's playing yet, but yes, he borrowed 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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