Members igge Posted December 21, 2009 Members Share Posted December 21, 2009 This thread will be followed by me very closely. That test guitar will probably turn out really good. You're having a fun X-mas indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GuitarNoobie Posted December 21, 2009 Author Members Share Posted December 21, 2009 Originally Posted by JoJo68 thanks... Originally Posted by DaveAronow Oh, and this is another REALLY cool thread by Guitarnoobie! thanks Dave... it's all about having FUN !!!! playing guitars, talking about guitars and working on them has become a passion Originally Posted by ihavenofish wow, that was quick! i did mine with a chisel, took a few days. yours looks really nice. i prefer a modern full arch top on les pauls, but thats just a preference. are you going to route the neck angle with a router jig? thanks man... yes, my plan was to build another jig for the top angle of the cap and just angle my template for the neck routre... something along these lines... and Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GuitarNoobie Posted December 21, 2009 Author Members Share Posted December 21, 2009 Originally Posted by igge This thread will be followed by me very closely. That test guitar will probably turn out really good. You're having a fun X-mas indeed. Well I didn't start this thread as a build thread, but it has kinda turned into that. I wasn't sure about documenting the test guitar, but I am... I am learning with every step in the process, so as you can see, mistakes will be documented too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ihavenofish Posted December 21, 2009 Members Share Posted December 21, 2009 Originally Posted by GuitarNoobie I am learning with every step in the process, so as you can see, mistakes will be documented too mistakes are the most important thing to document. i think thats what i learn from the most in these threads, watching what DOESNT work and figuring out why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GuitarNoobie Posted December 21, 2009 Author Members Share Posted December 21, 2009 Originally Posted by ihavenofish mistakes are the most important thing to document. i think thats what i learn from the most in these threads, watching what DOESNT work and figuring out why. i can't disagree. posting mistakes will help others from making them... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Dances w/carp Posted December 21, 2009 Members Share Posted December 21, 2009 Excellent thread. Been thinking about attempting something like this. Real cool to see some of the procedures, jigs, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GuitarNoobie Posted December 21, 2009 Author Members Share Posted December 21, 2009 Originally Posted by Dances w/carp Excellent thread. Been thinking about attempting something like this. Real cool to see some of the procedures, jigs, etc. i've wanting to build from blanks for a long time... the visuals and threads i found gave me the courage to do so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GuitarNoobie Posted December 21, 2009 Author Members Share Posted December 21, 2009 btw,what's the best tool for determining the 4.4 degree angle needed for the neck angle??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ihavenofish Posted December 21, 2009 Members Share Posted December 21, 2009 Originally Posted by GuitarNoobie btw, what's the best tool for determining the 4.4 degree angle needed for the neck angle??? a ruler and the bridge. thats how i did it with the chisel, just kept going til it all lined up. i dont know if you could do the same on yours, you kinda need it to be right the first time. you can get one of them fancy protractor levels that you sit on a surface and it tells you the angle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GuitarNoobie Posted December 21, 2009 Author Members Share Posted December 21, 2009 Originally Posted by ihavenofish a ruler and the bridge. thats how i did it with the chisel, just kept going til it all lined up. i dont know if you could do the same on yours, you kinda need it to be right the first time. you can get one of them fancy protractor levels that you sit on a surface and it tells you the angle. something like these i suppose... http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1...atalogId=10053 http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1...atalogId=10053 http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1...atalogId=10053 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GuitarNoobie Posted December 21, 2009 Author Members Share Posted December 21, 2009 this one from sears looks cool... http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_1...20090511x00001 guess i am off to the store after work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ihavenofish Posted December 21, 2009 Members Share Posted December 21, 2009 Originally Posted by GuitarNoobie something like these i suppose... http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1...atalogId=10053 http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1...atalogId=10053 http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1...atalogId=10053 no, not those. the one im thinking of is called an inlinometer aparently. looks like that. you would stick it on a surface - your blank - and it would tell you the angle. you could use it to make your routing jig by shimming underneath it til you get the right angle, then lock the thing down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ihavenofish Posted December 21, 2009 Members Share Posted December 21, 2009 Originally Posted by GuitarNoobie this one from sears looks cool... http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_1...20090511x00001 guess i am off to the store after work yes, thats more like it. fancy pants version Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GuitarNoobie Posted December 21, 2009 Author Members Share Posted December 21, 2009 Originally Posted by ihavenofish no, not those. the one im thinking of is called an inlinometer aparently. looks like that. you would stick it on a surface - your blank - and it would tell you the angle. you could use it to make your routing jig by shimming underneath it til you get the right angle, then lock the thing down. i actually saw one of those at home depot, but i did not feel it would be accurate enough. There was no way i was gonna be able to determine 4.4 degrees with it... between 4 and 5 problably, but not exactly... Originally Posted by ihavenofish yes, thats more like it. fancy pants version the fancy pants version to me is the accurate way to go. when it reads 4.4 in big bold numbers all will be good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members datru Posted December 21, 2009 Members Share Posted December 21, 2009 Terrific work! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GuitarNoobie Posted December 22, 2009 Author Members Share Posted December 22, 2009 Originally Posted by datru Terrific work! thanks... got my digital protractor this was actually a little more expensive unit, but i joined the sears craftsman club and got $10 off so I got it for $29.99... time to build another jig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GuitarNoobie Posted December 22, 2009 Author Members Share Posted December 22, 2009 tonight's work... feeling more confident all the time i am gonna create a neck tenon template tonight and call it an evening... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members linusâ„¢ Posted December 22, 2009 Members Share Posted December 22, 2009 Originally Posted by GuitarNoobie tonight's work... feeling more confident all the time i am gonna create a neck tenon template tonight and call it an evening... i see what you are setting up and all i can think is that none of my workbenches are that level.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ihavenofish Posted December 22, 2009 Members Share Posted December 22, 2009 Originally Posted by linus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GuitarNoobie Posted December 22, 2009 Author Members Share Posted December 22, 2009 Originally Posted by linus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GuitarNoobie Posted December 22, 2009 Author Members Share Posted December 22, 2009 ok so i built a neck tenon template. i plan to route that tomorrow (and this will be a most critical cut and whether this is a playable instrument or not). but anyway with that said, i was watching Ex-Nihilo's 3B video and he mentions routing the pickup plane with a hinge jig. see screen capture... apparently i have missed something in all the build threads i have read. i understand and have created the 4.4 degree neck plane angle, but he mentions the pickup plane (between the end of the fretboard and the bridge). what is this angle supposed to be??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Elias Posted December 22, 2009 Members Share Posted December 22, 2009 Originally Posted by GuitarNoobie what is this angle supposed to be??? My memory might be failing me, but I think that the pickup plane from the end of the fretboard to the bridge should be level or parallel to the back: hopefully someone with more insight will soon either correct or verify this. Thanks for sharing your progress and for posting those videos! I'm definitely going to use some of these methods and techniques on my next build. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GuitarNoobie Posted December 22, 2009 Author Members Share Posted December 22, 2009 Originally Posted by Elias My memory might be failing me, but I think that the pickup plane from the end of the fretboard to the bridge should be level or parallel to the back: hopefully someone with more insight will soon either correct or verify this. Thanks for sharing your progress and for posting those videos! I'm definitely going to use some of these methods and techniques on my next build. that would make it flat, which i always thought it was but in the 3B video I posted there is clearly some angle there. I have this question posted in another forum also... between here and there someone should be able to provide an answer... and your welcome, build away brother !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members nevermind Posted December 22, 2009 Members Share Posted December 22, 2009 from the center of the neck pickup route to the line the bridge mounts on it is an angle of 1.2 - 1.3 degrees. BTW, before taking that as gospel I'd ask for some of the guys who have built them to verify. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GuitarNoobie Posted December 22, 2009 Author Members Share Posted December 22, 2009 Originally Posted by ihavenofish since youve spent a fortune on that precarved top, and the edge is thin, i suggest that you not router the edge, but use the sander very carefully instead. flame maple is a mother {censored}er for routing, no matter what precautions you take. theres no point risking a split when youve actually got the "right" tool sitting there. one great trick ive seen is making an undersize template and then gluing a guide ring to the sander's cover washer that goes around the spindle. this lets you sand precisely all the way around, both the top and back. youll probably need the second largest spindle to do this, as the biggest i dont think has a ring. i forget. you can make the undersize template off the "good" template you bought. 3/16" all around will probably do. too big and you might round over the horn too much by accident. still trying to wrap my head around this concept... i just can't picture what you are saying. plus with the oscillation how would i be able to sand a binding channel... off to youtube to see if i can find something like you are trying to explain... however, this tool is awesome..... i have used it for almost every task I have completed. so very handy !!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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