Members nateguitar Posted August 12, 2005 Members Share Posted August 12, 2005 Originally posted by Ancient Mariner As frets wear the feel and tone of an instrument changes (you may even need to raise the action to compensate). Yup, I had to do just that a week or two ago. I don't know about the tone changing, though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members slapnutz Posted August 12, 2005 Members Share Posted August 12, 2005 Originally posted by kurtzentmaier I have the SX STL-50 due out in Ash this fall.Kurt Ooh, I think I just got a CHUBBY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members nateguitar Posted August 13, 2005 Members Share Posted August 13, 2005 Originally posted by kurtzentmaier There is no agile guitar that costs me less than $100 to build including the $159 AL-2000s. Ok, I will get some quote on the stainless! Kurt Really? Even the prestige models??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mosby Posted August 13, 2005 Members Share Posted August 13, 2005 Originally posted by nateguitar Really? Even the prestige models??? I think you have it backwards.... He said there is *no* guitar (Agile) that costs *less* than $100 to make. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members timmy210 Posted August 13, 2005 Members Share Posted August 13, 2005 I think I remember kurt saying that he gets the 3000 series guitars for about a third of what he pays for them, atleast thats what I remember someone saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members nateguitar Posted August 13, 2005 Members Share Posted August 13, 2005 Originally posted by Mosby I think you have it backwards.... He said there is *no* guitar (Agile) that costs *less* than $100 to make. Oops... my mistake... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members aerorockjax Posted August 15, 2005 Members Share Posted August 15, 2005 Stainless steel frets don't cost all that more (maybe $20-40 at the most) and they certainly won't have the continuing costs of relevel/redressings and refrets. Even with some additional cost in labor its worth it. Of course you can choose to ignore the freatwear but the frets don't play as good, keep getting worse, and develop buzzing, grooves that strings catch on, etc. If you own hundreds or thousands of guitars the fretwear won't happen as fast if you not just playing a few of those. Of course if you own that many guitars, you can easily afford tons of refets and re-level/dress frets or just start playing some of your other guitars more or buy more. Anyway, stainless steel frets rock, play great, cost only a little more, and last a long long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bongo Bastid Posted August 15, 2005 Members Share Posted August 15, 2005 yes, stainless frets please, but PLEASE PUT THE STAINLESS FRETS ON SOMETHING OTHER THAN A LESS PAUL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!AND ON A 25.5 SCALE !!!!!!!!!!!!!and also, how about building an Agile shredder axe ala the sx ones you've got. make it like an st1000 but with a floyd and some better color options, especially green. and no bling colors, just a solid color, i would rather pay for better components than 'purty' looks. all that fancy inlay stuff is just bull{censored}, i'd rather have no inlays at all. don't care about bindings either.plus, one thing that should be on every guitar: satin finish on the neck!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cold_fusion Posted August 15, 2005 Members Share Posted August 15, 2005 I have two Agile AL's...a 3000 and a 2800-Bigsby, and they're both excellent but along with ss frets, I think, equally important, is changing the necks from 1 5/8" to 1 11/16" like on all gibbys... I have other guitars that have 1 11/16" necks and I definitely notice the difference even though it only 1/16 of an inch..it makes it slightly easier to avoid deadening string notes out tougher chords like a Bbdim7 for example...esp for all of us with slightly bigger fingers. My dream Agile repro whould be one of the Gibson Custom Shop Johnny A hollow body bigsby's with pickups very closely speced out to the Gibson '57 classics. I'm tempted on the cool cat prestige but I'd buy one of these in a heartbeat! See HERE!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mighty Coogna! Posted August 15, 2005 Members Share Posted August 15, 2005 Hey if Kurt is chiming in on the idea, I'll say I'm all for stainless as well. Oddly enough I wonder about the frets on this SX strat style I got - sems like the frets are a bit harder than the agiles? Anyway, I's critical that if you implement stainless frets that #1 a lot of detail goes into the dressing. The Lp styles I've gotten have been adequate but not pristine in that regard. Could you pretty please do a run with a plain maple top, on a light mahogany body (chambered/relived if it must be). Clear grain, nothing fancy. A Nice reddish honey burst. Klusen style tuners A slip-stone (another area where I find I've been less than enthused) Strap lock buttons Aluminum tailpiece (nickel hardware) Rosewood board with warm but not green of overly flashy inlays. Push/push on the tone controls wired for series parallel on the rhythm, and phase on the bridge. Any nice pups will do, Duncan's or stock. And a bit more horn, just a bit - I think it's safe! Relief cut on the back Single ply binding Small posts on the bridge Case included! Have them take 1/16 off the end of the fret-board by the nut.. umm.. to fight "buzz". Compound radius going from 10"-16" at the end Medium wide frets but tall. 3 piece maple neck (the long way), carbon rod reinforced with a dual action rod and a long tenon. Recessed jack-plate moved towards the strap button. Lacquer finnish on the top, poly for the rest No switchplate or pickguard Barrel knobs w/pointers in gold, not amber -maybe insert knobs in black Eh, I can dream! $875 out the door, $925 w/deluxe case, strap and a rondo hat! And "MC Special" in script inlaid at the 12th fret. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TaZMaNiO Posted August 15, 2005 Author Members Share Posted August 15, 2005 Originally posted by Mighty Coogna! Hey if Kurt is chiming in on the idea, I'll say I'm all for stainless as well. Oddly enough I wonder about the frets on this SX strat style I got - sems like the frets are a bit harder than the agiles? Anyway, I's critical that if you implement stainless frets that #1 a lot of detail goes into the dressing. The Lp styles I've gotten have been adequate but not pristine in that regard. Could you pretty please do a run with a plain maple top, on a light mahogany body (chambered/relived if it must be). Clear grain, nothing fancy. A Nice reddish honey burst. Klusen style tuners A slip-stone (another area where I find I've been less than enthused) Strap lock buttons Aluminum tailpiece (nickel hardware) Rosewood board with warm but not green of overly flashy inlays. Push/push on the tone controls wired for series parallel on the rhythm, and phase on the bridge. Any nice pups will do, Duncan's or stock. And a bit more horn, just a bit - I think it's safe! Relief cut on the back Single ply binding Small posts on the bridge Case included! Have them take 1/16 off the end of the fret-board by the nut.. umm.. to fight "buzz". Compound radius going from 10"-16" at the end Medium wide frets but tall. 3 piece maple neck (the long way), carbon rod reinforced with a dual action rod and a long tenon. Recessed jack-plate moved towards the strap button. Lacquer finnish on the top, poly for the rest No switchplate or pickguard Barrel knobs w/pointers in gold, not amber -maybe insert knobs in black Eh, I can dream! $875 out the door, $925 w/deluxe case, strap and a rondo hat! And "MC Special" in script inlaid at the 12th fret. Kind of self-defeating putting up prices like that for a LP copy, isn't it?I could be a *mint* condition LP for that much & get SS frets put in myself & retain the resale value if not watch it increase I think it's a better idea to let Kurt know what we like & let him sweat the price. Personally I wouldn't spend more than $500 for ANY copy, unless it was MIA Custom ordered with killer wood & electronics.Just my 2 cents... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members aerorockjax Posted November 17, 2005 Members Share Posted November 17, 2005 Originally posted by Mistersuperfly 1. Chambered mahogany back EDIT: And I don't like the red finish on the back, I want to see something like the natural mahogany color like on a Goldtop. 2. Two piece solid PLAIN MAPLE TOP with vintage burst, Gold top, and Honey burst. Maybe even some other crazier colors. 3. Mahogany neck. 4. Ebony board 5. Stainless frets 6. All the 3000 hardware, but with factory installed Graphtech saddles. Charge 399 and I'm there. And bring back the CNB case that looks like the brown leather LP cases. ANOTHER EDIT: Oh, and if you really really want to do it right... Finish it in Nitro Yeah I'd like one of those too. Also upgraded pots, tone cap, and wiring; push pull pots for coil split and phase, with a pair of sd alnico 2 pros or 59 neck and jb bridge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TaZMaNiO Posted January 9, 2008 Author Members Share Posted January 9, 2008 Agile thread on The Gear Page I already sent em an email *POOF* and it's gone! Looks like another company got TGP to remove a thread and cover their asses... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Hrafnkel Posted January 9, 2008 Members Share Posted January 9, 2008 Dude, this is from 2005... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TaZMaNiO Posted January 9, 2008 Author Members Share Posted January 9, 2008 Dude, this is from 2005... And your point? P.S. Plenty of threads on TGP from 2005 and before that haven't been selectively deleted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Hrafnkel Posted January 9, 2008 Members Share Posted January 9, 2008 My point is, why is this worth bumping? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members keNz Posted January 9, 2008 Members Share Posted January 9, 2008 *POOF* and it's gone! Looks like another company got TGP to remove a thread and cover their asses... Did you really feel the need to bump TWO threads from three years ago about the same topic?Why not just e-mail Kurt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TaZMaNiO Posted January 9, 2008 Author Members Share Posted January 9, 2008 My point is, why is this worth bumping? Just trying to help educate the community about what is really happening out there between board owners and gear companies...It's all about hype, profits and bling! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TaZMaNiO Posted January 9, 2008 Author Members Share Posted January 9, 2008 Did you really feel the need to bump TWO threads from three years ago about the same topic? Why not just e-mail Kurt? Actually I did feel the need, thanks for asking Oh, and several emails went unanswered about the status of offering SS frets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Gary Ladd Posted November 18, 2012 Members Share Posted November 18, 2012 Did Agile ever get around to offering stainless steel frets? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members PrawnHeed Posted November 18, 2012 Members Share Posted November 18, 2012 Dunno, but this thread is still here. I blame the Chinese. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Weiner_Bomb Posted November 18, 2012 Members Share Posted November 18, 2012 SS frets are a cool idea in general. For a korean/chinease made guitar line i'm kind of at odds with the idea. Offering boutique options for a demographic who are likely not a advanced/serious player type seems like sort of a waste. It would be interesting if they manage to pull this off with minimum inconsistancys and price increase. It might be worth it. Maybe they'll set a new standard for other Import line guitar manufactures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members peskypesky Posted November 18, 2012 Members Share Posted November 18, 2012 I would LOVE an Agile with stainless frets. I almost ordered a semi-custom Agile with SS frets a couple of months ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members peskypesky Posted November 18, 2012 Members Share Posted November 18, 2012 SS frets are a cool idea in general. For a korean/chinease made guitar line i'm kind of at odds with the idea. Offering boutique options for a demographic who are likely not a advanced/serious player type seems like sort of a waste. It would be interesting if they manage to pull this off with minimum inconsistancys and price increase. It might be worth it. Maybe they'll set a new standard for other Import line guitar manufactures. There are many advanced players who play Agiles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members frankie pajamas Posted November 18, 2012 Members Share Posted November 18, 2012 Crazy this just got bumped. Rondo came out w/ this w/in the past week: http://www.rondomusic.com/product5644.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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