Members Bitter Dawn Posted December 13, 2010 Members Share Posted December 13, 2010 For the sake of conversation, any idea who did this first? What about full out double bass ie:16ths and 32nds notes? Louie Bellson for the win? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cearleywine Posted December 13, 2010 Members Share Posted December 13, 2010 yeah, I've read that Bellson popularized it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 1001gear Posted December 13, 2010 Members Share Posted December 13, 2010 Gary sumthing from the Guess Who, the guy from Canned Heat (I think) and Barry Barlowe from Jethro Tull are my first recollections of double bass in Rock. I don't recall any stellar footwork from these guys though. Ginger Baker was for sure slow at it too. The guy from Deep Purple I recall was pretty impressive. Speed King I believe it was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members fusionfunk Posted December 13, 2010 Members Share Posted December 13, 2010 Yes, to answer your question, Louie Bellson was indeed the first to come up with the idea of using two bass drums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members nklarow Posted December 13, 2010 Members Share Posted December 13, 2010 Gary sumthing from the Guess Who, the guy from Canned Heat (I think) and Barry Barlowe from Jethro Tull are my first recollections of double bass in Rock. I don't recall any stellar footwork from these guys though. Ginger Baker was for sure slow at it too. The guy from Deep Purple I recall was pretty impressive. Speed King I believe it was. Ian Paice, not quite sure if that's the right spelling. Speed King and Smoke on the Water is the reason I pretty much started drumming, haha. I read once that Ian borrowed one of Keith Moon's bass drums for the recording of Speed King. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 1001gear Posted December 13, 2010 Members Share Posted December 13, 2010 Yeah, Ian Paice. Getting old lol. lol old... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Fluke Posted December 13, 2010 Members Share Posted December 13, 2010 There were double pedals made as early as the 20s or 30s. I can't find a picture of them now, and i dont know if anyone actually used them, but they may predate the first use of two actual bass drums in a set! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BeakerArk Posted December 14, 2010 Members Share Posted December 14, 2010 Another vote for Bellson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cdawg Posted December 14, 2010 Members Share Posted December 14, 2010 read somewhere bellson requested 2 kicks from his sponsor and they laughed. took some convincing. they just couldn't see how he could make the kit configure to allow 2 kicks. i think he played rogers back then, correct me if i'm wrong, then on to remo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bitter Dawn Posted December 14, 2010 Author Members Share Posted December 14, 2010 I watched some vids of Bellson and in at least one he does some short 16ths in a solo, it was pretty cool to see. Much respect for those old school big band guys, it seems like music back then was more about the drums unlike now a days where the drummer is just shoved in the back. Fluke, a shame ya can't find a photo of that. A set of doubles from the 20's-30's would be pretty awesome to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 1001gear Posted December 14, 2010 Members Share Posted December 14, 2010 There were double pedals made as early as the 20s or 30s. I can't find a picture of them now, and i dont know if anyone actually used them, but they may predate the first use of two actual bass drums in a set! Here. http://www.vintagedrumguide.com/pedals.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members melvinspeed Posted December 14, 2010 Members Share Posted December 14, 2010 Here. http://www.vintagedrumguide.com/pedals.html CRAZYTIME!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 1001gear Posted December 14, 2010 Members Share Posted December 14, 2010 Some insight on the genius of Louis Bellson; with two bass drums _men_could play double kick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members nklarow Posted December 14, 2010 Members Share Posted December 14, 2010 That's one helluva contraption. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members zildjian@consol Posted December 14, 2010 Members Share Posted December 14, 2010 Double trouble Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bitter Dawn Posted December 14, 2010 Author Members Share Posted December 14, 2010 Here.http://www.vintagedrumguide.com/pedals.html Wow, some of those are pretty crazy. Thanks for the link dude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Drumstix101 Posted December 14, 2010 Members Share Posted December 14, 2010 That's one helluva contraption. It looks like the linkage might be adjustable to give you a Flam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members nklarow Posted December 14, 2010 Members Share Posted December 14, 2010 It looks like the linkage might be adjustable to give you a Flam That's what it looked like to me too, kind of a cool idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rdrummer322 Posted December 15, 2010 Members Share Posted December 15, 2010 I have that exact Rogers swivomatic. Had it for 40 years, used it until I went to a double a few years ago.What a great site, and yes, Louis Bellson, maybe not the first, but undoubtably the first"good" drummer to popularize a double bass in big bands with lots of fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JimmyNZ Posted December 15, 2010 Members Share Posted December 15, 2010 I may be wrong, but I'm sure I read somewhere over the years that Gene Krupa dabbled with doubles too?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bitter Dawn Posted December 15, 2010 Author Members Share Posted December 15, 2010 I may be wrong, but I'm sure I read somewhere over the years that Gene Krupa dabbled with doubles too?? Hm, that would be cool. Another old school drummer I dig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members stix 518 Posted December 28, 2010 Members Share Posted December 28, 2010 Bellson was the original double bassist. Stix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 1001gear Posted December 28, 2010 Members Share Posted December 28, 2010 Keith Moon was firster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Fluke Posted December 28, 2010 Members Share Posted December 28, 2010 On a related note, has any "real" drummer used two 18" bass drums? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 1001gear Posted December 28, 2010 Members Share Posted December 28, 2010 Don't fake drummers count? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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