Members D Carroll Posted April 26, 2011 Members Share Posted April 26, 2011 Reggae has been very good to me. I love it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members boomboomdrums Posted April 26, 2011 Members Share Posted April 26, 2011 Tell me about these home made white trash wine coolers. Tell me about the peripheral materials. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 1001gear Posted April 26, 2011 Author Members Share Posted April 26, 2011 This needs lots of ganja. lyEP_st9csI I just voted ah. I meant aaaaa but you cant edit the choices. You've just described "Jawaiian" music. Can't stand the stuff, but it's everywhere. Kill me now.Marley, yes. Jawaiian, no. This sounds more like authentic reggae than Jawaiian but it does drone on... Not that I checked but these tunes apparently go on for 4 minutes on one beat and 2 chords. Wouldn't want this gig for sure. 1blOdbc5pMs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Buckin Fastard Posted April 26, 2011 Members Share Posted April 26, 2011 So which type are you talking about? Bubble and skank? Biff baff? Real ska? Calypso? Ol skool dancehall? Trenchtown rock stylee? I'll agee with the earlier comment that nothing...AND I DO MEAN NOTHING...is as boring as watching some wanna be classic rock cover band. Actually, Medeski, Martin, and Wood is about the biggest snoozefest on the planet now that I think about it. And I'm not kidding about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Buckin Fastard Posted April 26, 2011 Members Share Posted April 26, 2011 FYI: Jawaiian can go and do the funky chicken off an overpass into autobahn rush hour traffic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 1001gear Posted April 26, 2011 Author Members Share Posted April 26, 2011 So which type are you talking about? Bubble and skank? Biff baff? Real ska? Calypso? Ol skool dancehall? Trenchtown rock stylee? I'll agee with the earlier comment that nothing...AND I DO MEAN NOTHING...is as boring as watching some wanna be classic rock cover band. Actually, Medeski, Martin, and Wood is about the biggest snoozefest on the planet now that I think about it. And I'm not kidding about that. I don't know from sub genre - it's just the incessant repetition. Needs extensive weed to numb the intellect out of the loop is all. Bad Classic Rock is Bad. period. I can relate to a half way decent cover band though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 1001gear Posted April 26, 2011 Author Members Share Posted April 26, 2011 I've always considered this Jawaiian. Fathered it maybe? DW? Anyway, kills me. lolJ5VQV8jTl5Q Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Marc G Posted April 26, 2011 Members Share Posted April 26, 2011 two words...Steel Pulse.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Marc G Posted April 26, 2011 Members Share Posted April 26, 2011 So which type are you talking about? Bubble and skank? Biff baff? Real ska? Calypso? Ol skool dancehall? Trenchtown rock stylee? Calypso isn't Reggae.... far from....in fact they are from two totally different islands and the grooves/chord movements that define the two styles are very different Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Eyehearya Posted April 26, 2011 Members Share Posted April 26, 2011 Tell me about these home made white trash wine coolers. 2 parts CHEAP-ASS jug white wine, 1 part 7-up, whatever fruit suits your fancy (watermelon, pineapple, grapes etc) and serve on ice. Don't forget to turn on the white Christmas lights hanging on the patio at dusk. Re: peripherals .......umm...err......hold on, my phone is ringing.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members the DW Posted April 26, 2011 Members Share Posted April 26, 2011 FYI: Jawaiian can go and do the funky chicken off an overpass into autobahn rush hour traffic. +10,000 Jawaiian is mostly bubble and skank. I tried to understand it, but after 15 years of the same old sh*t, it's time to retire it. Blame it on the local radio stations who perpetuate it for fear of giving something new a try. You know what I mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members the DW Posted April 26, 2011 Members Share Posted April 26, 2011 I've always considered this Jawaiian. Fathered it maybe? DW? Anyway, kills me. lol Too many chords and a modulation. Compared to Jawaiian, this is Jazz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members the DW Posted April 26, 2011 Members Share Posted April 26, 2011 Calypso isn't Reggae.... far from....in fact they are from two totally different islands and the grooves/chord movements that define the two styles are very different I like Calypso, and I can appreciate some Reggae. But Classic Rock? Good stuff! Helps that I'm of that era!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Buckin Fastard Posted April 26, 2011 Members Share Posted April 26, 2011 You're right in it's not reggae seeing that calypso predates it by no less than ten years. Your wrong bout the origins and progressions says my friend whose father founded a Kingston calypso band and who also has a master's degree in music history with an emphasis on what would be come to called "world music". Calypso fathered reggae and ska simultaneously. Later on you have your offshoots which were the more popular, radio formatted sub-groups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Buckin Fastard Posted April 26, 2011 Members Share Posted April 26, 2011 I don't know from sub genre - it's just the incessant repetition. Needs extensive weed to numb the intellect out of the loop is all.Bad Classic Rock is Bad. period. I can relate to a half way decent cover band though. That's because you have bees in your head and your brain's always abuzz with movements, sonatas, codas, and such. (I like that stuff, too.). Maybe it's because I'm in Atlanta and hit a classic rock band on the north side if I spit at Australia is the reason I'm over them. You know what else is boring? All these wannabe funk/jam bands that sound like rehashed Bootsey era James Brown and Tower of Power. I mean really...it's been done. Move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Marc G Posted April 26, 2011 Members Share Posted April 26, 2011 You're right in it's not reggae seeing that calypso predates it by no less than ten years. Your wrong bout the origins and progressions says my friend whose father founded a Kingston calypso band and who also has a master's degree in music history with an emphasis on what would be come to called "world music". Calypso fathered reggae and ska simultaneously. Later on you have your offshoots which were the more popular, radio formatted sub-groups. Calypso, like the steel pan, originated in Trinidad...where I'm from, so while I don't have a degree in music history it's part of my culture and the island's history. Calypso's origin can be traced as far back as the 30s maybe further, hard to say really since recordings from that far back are non existant, in the 50s songs like Rum and Coca Cola which were made popular by the Andrew Sisters and Harry Belafonte were actually stolen from local Trinidadian artists like Lord Invader... Calypso in it's original form is pretty deeply influencend by Jazz while Reggae and Ska...not so much... honestly.. I'd say Reggae and ska far more original than Calypso in the sense that Calypso is still played on the down beat where are Reggae and Ska is on the upbeat... total different groove.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Marc G Posted April 26, 2011 Members Share Posted April 26, 2011 but...back on to Reggae being boring.... if you can't just sit back and relax and vibe this then Reggae just isn't for you [video=youtube;Oe-BV7OYepI] and if the killer off time intro to this doesn't make you sit up and listen twice... go put on some ACDC and live in your 4/4 world...[video=youtube;Qo0tH5ppR88]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qo0tH5ppR88 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members manoeuver Posted April 26, 2011 Members Share Posted April 26, 2011 my fave SP tune.not boring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members danrothmusic Posted April 26, 2011 Members Share Posted April 26, 2011 So which type are you talking about? Bubble and skank? Biff baff? Real ska? Calypso? Ol skool dancehall? Trenchtown rock stylee? Give me some good 2-tone any day of the week. I'm only 22; maybe as I get older I'll mellow out and like reggae Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members slap happy drums Posted April 27, 2011 Members Share Posted April 27, 2011 ...not to derail, but I'd been taught that Island rhythms (Calypso) influenced by American blues beget Ska, and a divergent path of Ska evolved into Reggae. Simultaneous? From the man w/ the degree?-Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 1001gear Posted April 27, 2011 Author Members Share Posted April 27, 2011 Any info is insight. Could have devolved as well . . . ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Marc G Posted April 27, 2011 Members Share Posted April 27, 2011 you know, based on this thread I did some digging in some of the local history books and what I found was really interesting. Calypso or Kiaso as it was originally called evolved from a mixture of African music and French trubador music, which the French brough to Trinidad when they left French colonies like Martinique with their slaves during the French revolution. The French would pretty much party their asses off and the slaves would not be allowed to part take and so they basically said "{censored} um, if we can't go to their party we will have our own" which is eventually evolved in to our local Carnival.... That being said what surprised me was they have dated Kasio music as far back as the 1800's but obviously no recordings to prove that....So when was the first recording? There's a dispute about the first recording, some say it was done in a Kaiso Tent, which is where competitions were and are still held today, in 1914 and others say it was done by a Trinidadian Calypso band in 1912 in a New York recording studio. As recorded music became more popular American Jazz began to influence Kaiso, which later became known as Calypso when Europeans settlers put it in to print (Trinidad has a LONG history of Europeans bastardising names and spellings because they basically didn't care about how YOU spelt it, basically it went like, this is what it sounded like so this is how you're going to spell it now), the two names are interchangeable though and still are up to today but Kaiso is mostly used when talking about "old time" Calypso. Fast forward a bit to 50's when the Good Ole USA set up a few army bases here in Trinidad, it brought more outside influences from R&B and Blues music but also helped export the music, the old Calypso song "rum and coca cola" is all about the Americans arriving in Trinidad during the war and the women basically gold digging and becoming prostitues for the American soldiers...and the song came about because that's what Calypso is all about, social commentary... The next REAL evolution didn't really come until a Trinidadian Calypsonian called Ras Shorty I lay the ground work for Soca music which has now turned to {censored} IMO LOL... all about fast beats and dumb lyrics... give me my Kaiso/Calypso over that nonsense any day... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 1001gear Posted April 28, 2011 Author Members Share Posted April 28, 2011 Steel pulse is ok. They have that oddball phrasing and modality (think No Woman or Redemption song not sure of the titles - B Marley) that makes reggae a musical experience. But man the bulk of Reggae is just monotonous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jason76 Posted May 18, 2011 Members Share Posted May 18, 2011 If you play a lot of interesting fills then that livens up the groove. For example, some 6 note or 4 note (16th) pattern (on one beat) followed by a crash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members boxofrocks Posted May 18, 2011 Members Share Posted May 18, 2011 Seriously, though. If anything's boring, it's seeing Def Leppard playing some Def Leppard songs. Fixed lol.. I am indifferent to reggae. I can take it or leave it. Too much of anything can get boring after awhile.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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