Members braif Posted September 13, 2012 Members Share Posted September 13, 2012 Howdy!! Years ago, when MusicYo was still around, I picked up one of their Slingerland Expresso Kits...for those of you not familiar with them, it is a cocktail kit with a floor tom that doubles as the kick drum....identical to this one I like it and it works well for my purposes, but I do struggle with the tuning...I can't seem to get a good balance of tuning and dampening that works well...I can make it sound barely passable as either a floor tom or a kick drum...I can't seem to get it to sound passable as both...when I get a decent kick sound, the floor tom has no "depth" or undertones..when I get a decent tom sound, the kick is boomy and ringy with unpleasant overtones... Any suggestions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members race81 Posted September 13, 2012 Members Share Posted September 13, 2012 fill it with packing peanuts.......about 1/2 to 3/4 full Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jenksdrummer Posted September 13, 2012 Members Share Posted September 13, 2012 Put your set list on the floor tom. Problem solved. A boomy bass drum is one that carries well. Just food for thought there too. Or use ering or erings... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 6topher Posted September 13, 2012 Members Share Posted September 13, 2012 send it to me, I'll get it all fixed up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members kmart Posted September 13, 2012 Members Share Posted September 13, 2012 Well my experience w/cocktail kits (and all I've had my hands on have the large tom double as the kick), makes me want to say I suggest you get used to it and/or make a decision... The drum you have, as you're tuining it, is trying to be two things at once. You have to decide which you prefer: a dampened floor tom, or a boomy kick drum.Pick your poison. There's no magical solution to make something that's two things be only one of them at certain times and the other thing at others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members braif Posted September 17, 2012 Author Members Share Posted September 17, 2012 Well my experience w/cocktail kits (and all I've had my hands on have the large tom double as the kick), makes me want to say I suggest you get used to it and/or make a decision... The drum you have, as you're tuining it, is trying to be two things at once. You have to decide which you prefer: a dampened floor tom, or a boomy kick drum. Pick your poison. There's no magical solution to make something that's two things be only one of them at certain times and the other thing at others. Thanks! That's what I was afraid of I've pretty much settled on a relatively boomy kick, but I just thought I'd ask to see if any "real" drummers with more experience had found a way to have it all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Consume Posted September 18, 2012 Members Share Posted September 18, 2012 I say deaden the whole kit, and mic it about 48" over the drums with a condenser aimed at the middle of the drums and just roll out some of the middle on the EQ. I agree with Kmart. A cocktail kit is nothing more than a compromise... and for many people it can be an exercise in futility. With that in mind, Remo muff'ls were essentially the only solution that I could come up with that sounded decent and I tried everything under the sun....the Muff'ls at least gave me a "uniform" sound/muffling" on the set, so that when I mic'd the set - it had a really good sound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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