Members sweetsong Posted January 29, 2011 Members Share Posted January 29, 2011 Hi, Ive only been singing for a few years, don't know much about music thoery and never really "learned" how to sing. I just do it. Could one of you lovely singers give me some feedback on these 2 very short samples of my voice? One is 30 sec. long the other is a minute long. One is electronic the other alternative rock. If you have any thing to say that would improve my singing please do post. Thankyou! http://soundcloud.com/tranquilldove/rush-w http://soundcloud.com/tranquilldove/red-w Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DukeOfBoom Posted January 29, 2011 Members Share Posted January 29, 2011 in Rush, it is too busy. whenever the big guys like oakenfold or crystal method have vox on a track, the FX and busy-ness of the synths are pared back A LOT. Also, the melody line (your vox) is too stop-and-start. It needs to flow more & provide more continuity. with Red, it sounds {censored}ed up & like you are singing over your last vox. However, each take/overdub is successively more out-of-time and out-of-pitch than the previous. Was this a really bad comping job or something? If you comp, your takes have to sound more alike than dissimilar. this one is pretty bad. i dunno, you have a lot more work to do, but im sure there is potential. you should listen to kidneythieves to get an idea how to mix female vox on rock stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members blue2blue Posted January 29, 2011 Members Share Posted January 29, 2011 Hi, Sweetsong I suspect you meant to place this thread in the Singer's forum, So I'm going to move it over there for you. blue2blue Songwriting Forum moderator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ido1957 Posted January 29, 2011 Members Share Posted January 29, 2011 Rush - the timing on the echoes should fit the beat of the song to be really effective. The effects are (as Duke said) to prevalent. Your pitch is off and you're singing in a key that is too low for your voice... Red - the pitch is way off and is painful at the start (work on that high note). It gets much better later in the lower range. What/who are you using to record your songs? Laptop ? Microphone? Windows Movie Maker? It's not very clear and takes away from the performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sweetsong Posted January 30, 2011 Author Members Share Posted January 30, 2011 I totally disagree, I think you're just disliking a different style of art than your taste, everything you said was opinionated and not factual or helpful at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sweetsong Posted January 30, 2011 Author Members Share Posted January 30, 2011 Ido1957- Do you have any advice or knowledge that would help me to improve? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators davie Posted January 30, 2011 Moderators Share Posted January 30, 2011 lol. sweetsong. you need to chill out. Try not to take any of their comments personally. I think your voice is not bad. You have a pleasant tone. Your voice and style reminds me those Indie/alternative band female vocals, kinda like the Yeah Yeah Yeah's and similar acts. But if you want more accurate, clear and helpful opinions, then I suggest you record a clip of your singing acappella, without background instruments. That way be can hear your voice more easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DukeOfBoom Posted January 30, 2011 Members Share Posted January 30, 2011 I totally disagree, I think you're just disliking a different style of art than your taste, everything you said was opinionated and not factual or helpful at all. as a matter of fact, I love electronica and rock when they are done right. Your 30 second clips are neither done right nor well-recorded. You said yourself that you never learned to sing in your original post. I'm telling you exactly that you can't sing because your off-pitch and have severe timing-issues. If you work on those, than I'm sure you will be able to do better justice to the clips that you posted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ido1957 Posted January 30, 2011 Members Share Posted January 30, 2011 When I started sing I chose radio songs that were easy and popular that I liked. They were easy to sing for me because they were in my range and I never had to scream or strain to reach the notes. I memorized the song melody so I could sing it perfectly just like the record. I listened to it like a million times. I practiced a lot (and learned to play guitar so I could accompany myself and get in a band). The desire to be perfect like the record was all I needed and it made me practice a lot. Playing in front of a crowd was incentive to be good so they would like me and not say I sucked. I never recorded myself but I could hear when it was right and when it sucked.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sweetsong Posted January 30, 2011 Author Members Share Posted January 30, 2011 as a matter of fact, I love electronica and rock when they are done right. Your 30 second clips are neither done right nor well-recorded.You said yourself that you never learned to sing in your original post. I'm telling you exactly that you can't sing because your off-pitch and have severe timing-issues. If you work on those, than I'm sure you will be able to do better justice to the clips that you posted. I am now 100% certain that you are a very ignorant idividual. I just did sing, but you didn't like it. I can sing, it's just not your'e taste. And you're obviously jealous. I have professional teachers and producers give me thier stamp of aproval before and Im not gonna let some negative person online give me bs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DukeOfBoom Posted January 30, 2011 Members Share Posted January 30, 2011 haha, weissey, is that u? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rodclement Posted January 30, 2011 Members Share Posted January 30, 2011 I am now 100% certain that you are a very ignorant idividual. I just did sing, but you didn't like it. I can sing, it's just not your'e taste. And you're obviously jealous. I have professional teachers and producers give me thier stamp of aproval before and Im not gonna let some negative person online give me bs. Really! Are they all tone death? I get it...how much are you paying them??? People are giving you honest oppinions and you are acting like a douche, I'll be more direct and politically incorrect... Your stuff sucks and I am pretty sure you did this as a joke to get at Duke...how's that? Rod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sweetsong Posted January 30, 2011 Author Members Share Posted January 30, 2011 Really! Are they all tone death? I get it...how much are you paying them??? People are giving you honest oppinions and you are acting like a douche, I'll be more direct and politically incorrect...Your stuff sucks and I am pretty sure you did this as a joke to get at Duke...how's that?Rod ahhhh, another hateful miserable person who has no taste...and no they wernt tonedeaf they were skilled professionals. = ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members grace_slick Posted January 30, 2011 Members Share Posted January 30, 2011 Ah yes, it is indeed the Weissey back from the dead. *sigh of boredom* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sweetsong Posted January 30, 2011 Author Members Share Posted January 30, 2011 Ah yes, it is indeed the Weissey back from the dead. *sigh of boredom* WHO IS WEISSLY?????????? Im a 26 yr. old chick and i can send you my {censored}ing facebook what the hell r u talking about???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members grace_slick Posted January 30, 2011 Members Share Posted January 30, 2011 Just because you may have a Facebook account for whoever you might be (today or this particular moment in time), doesn't mean you're not someone else too. Weissey, for example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members paulthedube Posted January 30, 2011 Members Share Posted January 30, 2011 Well this sure is a sour thread and person... I have no clue why you're so hostile sweetsound? Nobody was trying to tear you down as a person. As musicians yes we're attached to our work but like all things we should have a loose grip on it. If we don't then when someone criticizes our music we take it as a direct criticism to us as a person. Anyhow, please just see that some people have harsher language and if that's how they choose to be that's just how it is. You asked for "comments and criticism" and you got what you asked for. Fair and square. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Members sweetsong Posted January 31, 2011 Author Members Share Posted January 31, 2011 some peope just act really mother****** unprofessional. I have experince in singing becuase its a natural gift. And somthing that confirms that is professionals and producers agreeing with that...and thats just how it is, Ive got a low tolerance for harsh people theres no need for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members grace_slick Posted January 31, 2011 Members Share Posted January 31, 2011 You've got a low tolerance for harsh people????? But YOU are harsh, sweetsong!!! In all my time on this forum you are the person who has given the harshest comments to people's singing clips. Absolutely harsh. And not just harsh, but RUDE and POINTLESS too. Words like "yucky", "boring", "find a new hobby"? That is just completely unhelpful AND harsh. And yet you say you've got no tolerance for harsh people? What a joke!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MikeyParent Posted February 1, 2011 Members Share Posted February 1, 2011 Little late to this shin dig, but what the hell I am now 100% certain that you are a very ignorant idividual. I just did sing, but you didn't like it. I can sing, it's just not your'e taste. And you're obviously jealous. I have professional teachers and producers give me thier stamp of aproval before and Im not gonna let some negative person online give me bs. All I get from this is that you were not interested in constructive criticism, you were trolling for compliments. Duke and Ido gave some pretty even-handed criticism of your work (and on the money IMO), sorry if you did not like it but you did ask for it and then you {censored} all over them Not cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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