Members TCEDDIA Posted August 26, 2006 Members Share Posted August 26, 2006 I'm sure this has been tossed around a few times but what is the big difference? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Thumper Posted August 26, 2006 Members Share Posted August 26, 2006 I'll take a stab... 'Fuzz' is a solid-state effects pedal, like a Big Muff. 'Overdrive' comes from a tube amp in which the gain is high, causing the preamp tubes to distort for an 'overdriven' sound. Anyone else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members der oxenrig Posted August 26, 2006 Members Share Posted August 26, 2006 Originally posted by Thumper I'll take a stab...'Fuzz' is a solid-state effects pedal, like a Big Muff.'Overdrive' comes from a tube amp in which the gain is high, causing the preamp tubes to distort for an 'overdriven' sound.Anyone else? I only consider it to be overdrive when the preamp tubes AND the power tubes are overdriving. Otherwise, you just get a buzzy, weak distortion (most of the time). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Thumper Posted August 26, 2006 Members Share Posted August 26, 2006 Originally posted by The Ox I only consider it to be overdrive when the preamp tubes AND the power tubes are overdriving. Otherwise, you just get a buzzy, weak distortion (most of the time). Elitist swine... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Darkstorm Posted August 26, 2006 Members Share Posted August 26, 2006 Prefers pedal and processor overdrives over fuzz's. Gets more articulation and warmth. Order of liking for me is heavy/massive overdrive, distortion, then fuzz. Ox has a good point in that qaulity of overdrive matters a lot. How well a given pedal works with an amp, wether its clean or OD/Dist ch can also depend on wether it emphasises odd or even harmonics. Which is why for example Boss pedals to me dont work as well with marshalls as do DOD and Zoom. OD's along with distortions or fuzzs whose harmonics are at odds with what the amp prefers cause tone suck in most cases. Compatable ones however can stack quite nicely into each other for even better tone. Experimentation is often the only way to find which works best with ones amp. Peavey for example seems more friendly to wide range of diff brands then most. Peaveys also sound better imo with a pedal in front of it, then they do just plugged straight into. I find marshall SS amps OD/dist ch the same way, best sound with another pedal in front of em. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Texas Noise Factory Posted August 26, 2006 Members Share Posted August 26, 2006 Fuzz generally has a wave form shape that is called square wave. Overdrive is just a small amount of distortion usually caused by tubes or simulated as such.. Fuzz is more..... extreme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bd's_bass Posted August 26, 2006 Members Share Posted August 26, 2006 Originally posted by The Ox I only consider it to be overdrive when the preamp tubes AND the power tubes are overdriving. Otherwise, you just get a buzzy, weak distortion (most of the time). I'm with you on this one Sean. Ummmmm...tube saturation.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members megadan Posted August 26, 2006 Members Share Posted August 26, 2006 Overdrive is what I get when I crank up my tube amp. Distortion is what I get when I kick on my fulltone. Fuzz is what I get when I throw in the TZ-2 Fuzz. Tone from Hell is what I get with all three :evil: :evil: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SpaceGhost Posted August 26, 2006 Members Share Posted August 26, 2006 Originally posted by Texas Noise Factory Fuzz generally has a wave form shape that is called square wave. Overdrive is just a small amount of distortion usually caused by tubes or simulated as such.. Fuzz is more..... extreme. Exactly. A lot of people use them interchangebly but infact, they are two seperate things not to be confused with one another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members henre Posted August 26, 2006 Members Share Posted August 26, 2006 Originally posted by Texas Noise Factory Fuzz generally has a wave form shape that is called square wave. Almost, but not quite. It's close, though. Right: Overdrive is what you get when tubes are pushed. You get overdrive pedals too: these are either diode distortion pedals aiming to imitate the sound of tube overdrive, or they are boost-type pedals which aim to overdrive your tubes in a specific way. OD creates even-order harmonics, which sound smooth to the ear. "Normal" distortion is diode distortion. It creates odd-order harmonics, which sound harsh to the ear, especially on odd chords. Like tritones. Fuzz is diode distortion that causes odd-order harmonics, and clips so much that it almost forms a square-wave pattern. Thus, it almost sounds synthy. To me, fuzz > overdrive > distortion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SpaceGhost Posted August 26, 2006 Members Share Posted August 26, 2006 Originally posted by henre Almost, but not quite. It's close, though. Nit pick, nit pick, nit pick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members FreestyleIntruder Posted August 27, 2006 Members Share Posted August 27, 2006 Fuzz is something that should never be used with electric bass Overdrive is something that should never be used with electric bass That's the difference Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Wolftopus Posted August 27, 2006 Members Share Posted August 27, 2006 Originally posted by FreestyleIntruder Fuzz is something that should never be used with electric bass Overdrive is something that should never be used with electric bass That's the difference Your opinion is wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members henre Posted August 27, 2006 Members Share Posted August 27, 2006 Originally posted by SpaceGhost Hahaha, I know, it's such a stupid technicality, since every fuzz and distortion and overdrive sounds unique anyway, what's the point of classifying them, really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members FreestyleIntruder Posted August 27, 2006 Members Share Posted August 27, 2006 Originally posted by Wolftopus Your opinion is wrong. Go back to school, kid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Wolftopus Posted August 27, 2006 Members Share Posted August 27, 2006 Originally posted by FreestyleIntruder Go back to school, kid Your opinion is still wrong, pops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members henre Posted August 27, 2006 Members Share Posted August 27, 2006 Originally posted by Wolftopus Your opinion is still wrong, pops. Agree'd. Gimme some Converse lovin'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members FreestyleIntruder Posted August 27, 2006 Members Share Posted August 27, 2006 Originally posted by Wolftopus Your opinion is still wrong, pops. No. No, it really isn't. But thanks for playing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rastafarian_nz Posted August 27, 2006 Members Share Posted August 27, 2006 Overdrive = Non-linear distortion Fuzz = Linear distortion Non-linear distortion = "soft" clipping, when the tops of the waveforms are dynamically compressed, slowly leading into clipping. Linear distortion = "hard" clipping, tops of waveforms are clipped without compression. Facts: Vacuum tubes naturally generate even-order harmonics when run clean. Clipping produces either equal even- and odd-order harmonics, or odd-order only, depending on how the circuit is built. ALL preamp distortion is linear, whether tubes or IC's are used for gain. You CANNOT obtain "soft" clipping from a preamp, unless a power tube is used with a dummy load and DI'd out. Preamp tubes in Class A DO generate harmonics, but do not clip softly. The harmonics generated in distortion depend on HOW the circuit is built, AS WELL as what it is built with.1) A Class A tube power amp will produce more even-order harmonics, but odd-order harmonics are still present. A Class A SS power amp will produce equal amounts of both.2) A distortion circuit built with an even-order harmonic generator, fed into a diode clipping circuit. If Germanium diodes are used, this becomes a fairly accurate tube overdrive model. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bassfuzz Posted August 28, 2006 Members Share Posted August 28, 2006 you decide Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bruto Posted August 28, 2006 Members Share Posted August 28, 2006 Overdrive is what you shift into after 4th gear. Fuzz is what get if you miss the shifter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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