Members hawkhuff Posted August 29, 2007 Members Share Posted August 29, 2007 Those are Federal forms - NYS authorities don't have any more access to those than as in any other state... Don't get me wrong - NY gun laws definetly DO suck, but let's not make things to seem any worse than they actually are...BTW, I wouldn't trade NY gun laws for those in Maryland... - georgestringsUnderstood. Really? I have been lead to understand handguns are much easier to obtain/posses here. Not true? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members georgestrings Posted August 29, 2007 Members Share Posted August 29, 2007 Understood.Really? I have been lead to understand handguns are much easier to obtain/posses here. Not true? To my knowledge, Maryland has a very restricted list of new handguns that can be purchased - although I don't believe you're saddled with the licensing hassles we have here in NY for just owning handguns(not accounting for concealed carry)... I also believe there are other differences, regarding so-called "assault rifles", and standard capacity magazines... Again, I could be wrong... - georgestrings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sunburstbasser Posted August 29, 2007 Members Share Posted August 29, 2007 Maryland, overall, has possibly the strictest laws overall in the US in regards to gun ownership. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members georgestrings Posted August 29, 2007 Members Share Posted August 29, 2007 Maryland, overall, has possibly the strictest laws overall in the US in regards to gun ownership. To my knowledge, they're right up there with NJ, Ill,Mass, and Cali... NY's gun laws are no picnic, but I believe them to be more lenient than the aforementioned... - georgestrings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RIC N BACKER Posted August 29, 2007 Members Share Posted August 29, 2007 And hopefully it will stay that way. I recently bought two shotguns (one for each hand ) in NY and they had to be registered. {censored}in' Nanny state. rifles and shot guns have to be registered in NYC.....there are 62 counties in NY, on 5 require rifles or shotguns to be registered...thats not as bad as people make it out to be.try getting a CC in MARYland....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Undead Sycip Posted August 29, 2007 Members Share Posted August 29, 2007 And still we got the MOST {censored}ING GUNS!Take that world!There are two kinds of people in the world, those with guns and those with shovels. You dig! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jugghaid Posted August 29, 2007 Members Share Posted August 29, 2007 And still we got the MOST {censored}ING GUNS! Take that world! There are two kinds of people in the world, those with guns and those with shovels. You dig! I only do this every couple of years or so.......that is sig worthy!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RIC N BACKER Posted August 29, 2007 Members Share Posted August 29, 2007 I believe it has more to do with the virtually insurmountable geographical challenges of invading the United States (like, an ocean on each side, a desert below and freezing climates above) than everyone having weapons when it comes to America never having had foreign troops on its soil since way back when. Everyone and his dog owned firearms in Cyprus in 1974, didn't make much of a difference when Turkey invaded. Same with many other countries that have been invaded. Having a few guns in your closet and a strong belief in freedom isn't going to stop a nation of 80 million (Germany) invading your country of 10 million (Holland) over a simple land border. Think that Dutch people don't really care about their independance? Ok, how about the Greeks then? No one would dare deny their fierce pride in such matters. They beat back Italy's invasion attempt, but that was more to do with Italian incompetance. When the Germans came to clear up the mess, resistance didn't last very long; again, 80 million v.s. 10 million and a relatively simple crossing from Albania. And in a rural society like it was back then, everyone owned shotguns and hunting rifles. Never underestimate the importance of geography in such matters. Please don't tell me you take that film even remotely seriously the Geo points are wll taken. but dont forget either the Americans in the revolutionary war were massively outnumbered by the British and lacked formal military training andd we kicked their asses so will sometimes beats out numbers.no, I dont necessarily take the movie seriously but the will and patriotism of Americans far exceeds that of most others when defending freedom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RIC N BACKER Posted August 29, 2007 Members Share Posted August 29, 2007 Understood. Really? I have been lead to understand handguns are much easier to obtain/posses here. Not true? NOT true.my cousin who lives in Glen Burnie had to give up his permit when he decided not to be a Secret service agent.......this kid is so clean he sqeaks and they denied him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RIC N BACKER Posted August 29, 2007 Members Share Posted August 29, 2007 NY'er here - and short of NYC, I've never heard of ANY long gun needing to be registered here in NY... Now, if you're saying you had to fill out a yellow sheet to purchase one from an FFL holder - that's the same as in any other state... - georgestrings YEP..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RIC N BACKER Posted August 29, 2007 Members Share Posted August 29, 2007 Those are Federal forms - NYS authorities don't have any more access to those than as in any other state... Don't get me wrong - NY gun laws definetly DO suck, but let's not make things to seem any worse than they actually are... BTW, I wouldn't trade NY gun laws for those in Maryland... - georgestrings got to agree again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mudbass Posted August 29, 2007 Members Share Posted August 29, 2007 but dont forget either the Americans in the revolutionary war were massively outnumbered by the British and lacked formal military training andd we kicked their asses so will sometimes beats out numbers. Well, when your opponent likes to wear bright red uniforms and march down the middle of the road banging on a bunch of drums things get a whole lot easier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Fiery Furnace Posted August 29, 2007 Members Share Posted August 29, 2007 I believe the 2nd Amendment is the reason we have never had ground troops from another country on our soil...in modern times post civil war that is.... Neither has Britain, or Canada, or Australia... oops! So much for that argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ender_rpm Posted August 29, 2007 Author Members Share Posted August 29, 2007 Neither has Britain, or Canada, or Australia... oops! So much for that argument.Well... Canada for pretty much the same reasons as the US. Britain came damn close in WW2, as did Australia. About the only thing that kept it from happening was the courage of the brits and aussies, and oh yeah, Americans with guns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mudbass Posted August 30, 2007 Members Share Posted August 30, 2007 You bet yer ass!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Undead Sycip Posted August 30, 2007 Members Share Posted August 30, 2007 Well... Canada for pretty much the same reasons as the US. Britain came damn close in WW2, as did Australia. About the only thing that kept it from happening was the courage of the brits and aussies, and oh yeah, Americans with guns The US victory @ Coral Sea prevented the Japanese from establishing naval supremacy in that area and put plans for the invasion of Australia on hold. Of course, the tide of the war turned a few months later @ Midway and the invasion of Oz completely dropped off the plans.The planned invasion of Britain by Germany (by way of .... France.... ) was delayed and eventually dropped because of a rather stubborn RAF and Hitler's strategic blunder of invading the USSR. Of course it can be argued that the US played a part in keeping the Germans out of the UK by keeping our ports available for British trade so they can support their war industries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bholder Posted August 30, 2007 Members Share Posted August 30, 2007 We're the most obese people on the planet, so of course our arms are heavier! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RIC N BACKER Posted August 30, 2007 Members Share Posted August 30, 2007 Neither has Britain, or Canada, or Australia... oops! So much for that argument. canada is too {censored}ing cold, the Germans learned that the hard way in Russia...Twice! Austrailia takes too long to get to and I believe that the Germans were in England in WWII...not 100% sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RIC N BACKER Posted August 30, 2007 Members Share Posted August 30, 2007 Well, when your opponent likes to wear bright red uniforms and march down the middle of the road banging on a bunch of drums things get a whole lot easier. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Undead Sycip Posted August 30, 2007 Members Share Posted August 30, 2007 Man, soldiers were bad ass back in the day. I can't imagine just standing there waiting for the other side's volley so we can rush em. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mr.Mow Posted August 30, 2007 Members Share Posted August 30, 2007 Well... Canada for pretty much the same reasons as the US. Britain came damn close in WW2, as did Australia. About the only thing that kept it from happening was the courage of the brits and aussies, and oh yeah, Americans with guns Lets not forget that about the top 2/3rds of Australia is desert.. I think the theory here is, anyone dumb enough to try and invade us is welcome to try their hand surviving up north, we'll all just retreat to the south! Nuthin up there we want anyway! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sunburstbasser Posted August 30, 2007 Members Share Posted August 30, 2007 Lets not forget that about the top 2/3rds of Australia is desert.. I think the theory here is, anyone dumb enough to try and invade us is welcome to try their hand surviving up north, we'll all just retreat to the south! Nuthin up there we want anyway! This is why I wonder why Australia would be invaded. Are there extremely resource-heavy areas that would be worth taking over in Oz? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mr.Mow Posted August 30, 2007 Members Share Posted August 30, 2007 This is why I wonder why Australia would be invaded. Are there extremely resource-heavy areas that would be worth taking over in Oz? We have got a {censored}LOAD of uranium.. Oops, that might be up top.. If any one is gonna invade it would be Indonesia (apparently) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members NeonVomit Posted August 30, 2007 Members Share Posted August 30, 2007 and I believe that the Germans were in England in WWII...not 100% sure Completely and totally untrue. The massively outnumbered Royal Air Force decisively beat Goering's Luftwaffe in the Battle of Britain. This was before America's involvement in the war. In the wake of their massive defeat, Operation Sea Lion (the Nazi plan to invade Britain) was decided to be unfeasible and the plans were scrapped. "Never has so much been owed by so many, to so few." - Winston Churchill The last time the British Isles were invaded and conquered was in 1066 by William I. So there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members NeonVomit Posted August 30, 2007 Members Share Posted August 30, 2007 Anyway. I believe the whole of WWII is neatly summed up in this .gif... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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