Members chris-dax Posted January 4, 2008 Members Share Posted January 4, 2008 OK - let's assume you leave your gig-bagged fender jazz locked in your car all day in a 45F degree parking garage.... you take the guitar out of the car and into the gig, unbag it, set it on a guitar stand in the middle of the room (ie not in front of a heat register) how long does it take for the guitar to reach room temperature....? Bonus points if you can tell me where my gig is tonight... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members georgestrings Posted January 4, 2008 Members Share Posted January 4, 2008 OK - let's assume you leave your gig-bagged fender jazz locked in your car all day in a 45F degree parking garage.... you take the guitar out of the car and into the gig, unbag it, set it on a guitar stand in the middle of the room (ie not in front of a heat register) how long does it take for the guitar to reach room temperature....? Bonus points if you can tell me where my gig is tonight... Actually, from what I've always read you're supposed to let the case(in this case, gig bag) reach room temps before opening it - although I never have... - georgestrings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members FreestyleIntruder Posted January 4, 2008 Members Share Posted January 4, 2008 Depends upon the specific heat capacity of your bass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators isaac42 Posted January 4, 2008 Moderators Share Posted January 4, 2008 And what temperature the room is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Kindness Posted January 4, 2008 Moderators Share Posted January 4, 2008 Actually, from what I've always read you're supposed to let the case(in this case, gig bag) reach room temps before opening it - although I never have... - georgestrings This is to help ease the transition assuming the case/bag acts as an insulator to slow the warming process. In most cases, the biggest issue you might run into with quick transitions is finish problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members chris-dax Posted January 4, 2008 Author Members Share Posted January 4, 2008 Depends upon the specific heat capacity of your bass no idea - but that's why I specified fenfer jazz....in a gig bag... take a shot.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members chris-dax Posted January 4, 2008 Author Members Share Posted January 4, 2008 And what temperature the room is. assume the room is room temperature.... you know - 70F Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cdb Posted January 4, 2008 Members Share Posted January 4, 2008 i say about 90 minutes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members groutt Posted January 4, 2008 Members Share Posted January 4, 2008 It will never quite get to the temperature of the room. I'll say 30 minutes. Your gig is an after-work party? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members georgestrings Posted January 4, 2008 Members Share Posted January 4, 2008 15-20 minutes? This is to help ease the transition assuming the case/bag acts as an insulator to slow the warming process. In most cases, the biggest issue you might run into with quick transitions is finish problems. I'd guess that within 30 minutes or so, it'll stabilize to where staying in tune would be possible... and yeah, I knew about the concern for finishes in these situations - nitro being the most worrysome... - georgestrings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Kindness Posted January 4, 2008 Moderators Share Posted January 4, 2008 I'd guess that within 30 minutes or so, it'll stabilize to where staying in tune would be possible... and yeah, I knew about the concern for finishes in these situations - nitro being the most worrysome... - georgestrings Most of the time I'm more concerned about amps warming up in time than basses. Weather sucks. I hate cold weather. I hate hot weather. I hate humid weather. I need to move to a planet that is climate controlled... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members walkerci Posted January 4, 2008 Members Share Posted January 4, 2008 If you are concerned about neck relief and it's impact on tuning, I wouldn't worry about a 20-30F swing in the neck or body temperature. The strings should reach room temperature pretty quickly.Under 15 minutes?? I don't have any hard data to back this up, just my experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members georgestrings Posted January 4, 2008 Members Share Posted January 4, 2008 Most of the time I'm more concerned about amps warming up in time than basses. Weather sucks. I hate cold weather. I hate hot weather. I hate humid weather. I need to move to a planet that is climate controlled... SS amps I don't worry about so much, but cold doesn't do tube amps or speakers much good.... I know what you mean about temps - here in Syracuse, it was 1F yesterday, but is supposed to reach 60F by tuesday or wednesday.... sheer craiziness, I tell ya... - georgestrings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members chris-dax Posted January 4, 2008 Author Members Share Posted January 4, 2008 OK - so far we've got somewhere between 15 and 90 minutes (and 1 vote for never....) I'm bringing two guitars to the gig tonight so I can use one (44-02) as the control....I'll try to keep checking it every 10 minutes or so and see when it feels room temp.... I've got my gear and ultra-hip gig attire loaded in the car and will have to blaze from work directly to the hotel without passing go.... I'll be on a short timeline....load in at 5....kick it at 6 so that's what got me to thinking about how long it takes to get stable. Anyway I thought it was an interesting question....I'll circulate my findings for peer review tomorrow.... Ze gig is some kind of a formal type fund raiser event....at the Adams Mark downtown....I don't know how many folks they're expecting, but the room holds 3500 peep.... Any mile-hiers in the area - it's Adams Mark Plaza Ballroom 6-8pm.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jazz Ad Posted January 4, 2008 Members Share Posted January 4, 2008 Beer and a lot of amphetamines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Flatball Posted January 4, 2008 Members Share Posted January 4, 2008 Ok, here's my 2 cents, from experience. First of all try to NEVER have to leave your axe in extreme cold or hot conditions. If it's been left in extreme cold, when you bring it in, DON'T OPEN THE CASE. Let it warm up for 20 minutes or so first. I have seen a number of instruments' finish get destroyed by exposing it too early. Here's a tip I learned when I was playing the festival circuit that WORKS. Take your instrument, case and all (gig bag, hard shell, whatever) and put in a sleeping bag. Yes, a sleeping bag. The added insulation really helps. I have kept mine in the trunk in extreme hot weather and taken it out of the sleeping bag and it's fine and (relatively) cool. Don't thank me. It's all a public service Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Kindness Posted January 4, 2008 Moderators Share Posted January 4, 2008 It will be stable in well less than an hour (based on my experiences), but I am interested to know how long it takes to actually feel like it is room temperature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bbl Posted January 4, 2008 Members Share Posted January 4, 2008 Weather sucks. I hate cold weather. I hate hot weather. I hate humid weather. I need to move to a planet that is climate controlled... Or Northern Cal coastal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Kindness Posted January 4, 2008 Moderators Share Posted January 4, 2008 Or Northern Cal coastal. Don't think it wasn't in my original plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bbl Posted January 4, 2008 Members Share Posted January 4, 2008 What color is the bass? And what type of lighting will there be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Kindness Posted January 4, 2008 Moderators Share Posted January 4, 2008 What color is the bass? And what type of lighting will there be? Better question, will you be using L/va cables? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mytola Posted January 4, 2008 Members Share Posted January 4, 2008 Most of the time I'm more concerned about amps warming up in time than basses. Weather sucks. I hate cold weather. I hate hot weather. I hate humid weather. I need to move to a planet that is climate controlled... I'm in. A spaceship is going to be cheaper for us if we split the cost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bbl Posted January 4, 2008 Members Share Posted January 4, 2008 Don't think it wasn't in my original plan. After two trips to the Midwest in the last month, I understand why it's more expensive here. Today, we're getting the storm of the century. Lots of rain, high winds. Sure it's snowing in the Sierras, but it's 51 degress here in SF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members groutt Posted January 4, 2008 Members Share Posted January 4, 2008 Ze gig is some kind of a formal type fund raiser event....at the Adams Mark downtown....I don't know how many folks they're expecting, but the room holds 3500 peep.... Dang! That was my second guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Kindness Posted January 4, 2008 Moderators Share Posted January 4, 2008 After two trips to the Midwest in the last month, I understand why it's more expensive here. Today, we're getting the storm of the century. Lots of rain, high winds. Sure it's snowing in the Sierras, but it's 51 degress here in SF. Well, if the weather was as nice here as it is there, there'd be too many people in Chicago for it to be livable. At the end of the day, I choose city life over nice weather. I do so because I am dumber than you might expect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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