Members poomwah Posted December 22, 2008 Members Share Posted December 22, 2008 what are your thoughts??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bnyswonger Posted December 22, 2008 Members Share Posted December 22, 2008 I like my multi-effects. I don't want a zillion conections on a pedalboard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members anothertxn Posted December 22, 2008 Members Share Posted December 22, 2008 Historically I'm a single pedal kinda guy, but I just splurged on an M13...we'll see how it goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bassplayer7770 Posted December 22, 2008 Members Share Posted December 22, 2008 I've had separate pedals as well as a Boss ME-50B. I really liked the ME-50B. It was simple to use, and most of the effects were very usable. The biggest negative to me was the crappy Synth effects... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Poltergeist Posted December 22, 2008 Members Share Posted December 22, 2008 single effects but good ones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members James Hart Posted December 22, 2008 Members Share Posted December 22, 2008 I like individual pedals and don't plan on changing... but the M13 does look like a cool toy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members poomwah Posted December 22, 2008 Author Members Share Posted December 22, 2008 I like my multi-effects. I don't want a zillion conections on a pedalboard. which unit are you using bnys? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members guitargod0dmw Posted December 22, 2008 Members Share Posted December 22, 2008 I've had both...I prefer singles. I'm not a fan of editing patches on rack units. I will say that once you go through all the motions, finely edited patches can sound great. Just listen to Opeth's live distorted tone...that's a Boss multi unit going into a clean Laney. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bnyswonger Posted December 22, 2008 Members Share Posted December 22, 2008 which unit are you using bnys? Currently a Boss SE-70. I have used a Boss SE-50, and wouldn't mind getting a VF1, but I'll keep using what I'm using until it quits. I don't use a lot of effects, but I like to be able to throw something on if the tune calls for it. I've got some standard patches - a chorus with a little low bump, a thinner chorus, a compressed lead sound with a delay (I have an expression pedal so I can control things like like amount of delay or chorus speed), a pitch shift, straight compressor, extreme fuzz - it's nice to get it all out of one half rack unit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members poomwah Posted December 22, 2008 Author Members Share Posted December 22, 2008 Currently a Boss SE-70. I have used a Boss SE-50, and wouldn't mind getting a VF1, but I'll keep using what I'm using until it quits. I don't use a lot of effects, but I like to be able to throw something on if the tune calls for it. I've got some standard patches - a chorus with a little low bump, a thinner chorus, a compressed lead sound with a delay (I have an expression pedal so I can control things like like amount of delay or chorus speed), a pitch shift, straight compressor, extreme fuzz - it's nice to get it all out of one half rack unit. I've been leaning toward pedals, but that makes me think.... it would be nice to have different types of one effect without having to change settings, like the two different types of chorus you mentioned. That would be convenient Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RSBro Posted December 22, 2008 Members Share Posted December 22, 2008 The Line 6 M13 is legit. It can also be had for around $400 now. I paid right at $500 for mine about a month ago. DEFINITELY worth it! I'm the type of guy that likes to have more than one type of each type of effect though. I like my normal subtle compression, but then a compression boost, and then an overdrive and distortion; subtle chorus, stereo chorus, heavy chorus; fast flange, slow flange; medium phase, stereo phase; 3-4 different types of delays, etc.. For what you spend in pedals, this easily makes it up by giving you a lot more. For example: I loved my HBE Psylocibe, but so much that I wanted to have 2-3 of them so I could get various sounds out of it! I had to pretty much just stick with one, without changing it on the fly and then back and forth.Same for my EHX Stereo Electric Mistress, Boss DD3 delay, EBS MultiComp, Analogman TS9DX, etc.. Granted the modulation FX, specifically phaser and flange take some work to dial them in right, but once you do they do a passable job. The distortion and comp models as well as the reverb and delay are where it's at on this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators ThudMaker Posted December 22, 2008 Moderators Share Posted December 22, 2008 I used a Boss SE70 for a few years (like the one bnyswonger mentioned.) I let that one go into the live sound rack and use a VF1 for the bass. Killer. I control it with a Tech 21 midi mouse and a Boss FS6U. Stupidly simple setup and the FX are pretty good quality. I think they are much better than the ME50b (which I owned and liked) and the programming and flexibility is head and shoulders above the GT6b (which I owned and hated.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members T. Alan Smith Posted December 22, 2008 Members Share Posted December 22, 2008 I went from this- ' alt='>'> to this- ' alt='>'> Sure, it's no where near as loaded, but I'm more about simplicity & elegance, so I'll keep a very simple pedalboard with just a few nice pieces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mlwarriner Posted December 22, 2008 Members Share Posted December 22, 2008 i've gone both routes, multi-pedals and also individual. i keep coming back to individual pedals. if i could somehow choose which pedals were inside my multi, i might go that route, but i just don't seem to care enough for what's in the multi's. ymmv. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members T. Alan Smith Posted December 22, 2008 Members Share Posted December 22, 2008 I went from this- ' alt='>'> to this- ' alt='>'> Sure, it's no where near as loaded, but I'm more about simplicity & elegance, and pedals are much nicer to work with (for me), so I'll keep a very simple pedalboard with just a few nice pieces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RSBro Posted December 22, 2008 Members Share Posted December 22, 2008 i've gone both routes, multi-pedals and also individual. i keep coming back to individual pedals. if i could somehow choose which pedals were inside my multi, i might go that route, but i just don't seem to care enough for what's in the multi's. ymmv. I would concur until I tested out the M13. The options you get per effect are so much you can pretty much utilize as many variances as it offers! Plus I like having the option to switch "scenes" and totally change up my pedalboard depending on the gig requirement. Plus, it's lighter too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bnyswonger Posted December 22, 2008 Members Share Posted December 22, 2008 I've been leaning toward pedals, but that makes me think.... it would be nice to have different types of one effect without having to change settings, like the two different types of chorus you mentioned. That would be convenient Another nice thing about this sort of unit - once you get used the programming it's no biggee, and there are like a 100 storable memory slots. I've got one bank of stereo effects for when I use two amps, and a duplicate set up for mono use. I don't have to change a thing between rigs other than which group I use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Broncomino Posted December 22, 2008 Members Share Posted December 22, 2008 The Line 6 M13 is legit.It can also be had for around $400 now. I paid right at $500 for mine about a month ago.DEFINITELY worth it! I'm the type of guy that likes to have more than one type of each type of effect though. I like my normal subtle compression, but then a compression boost, and then an overdrive and distortion; subtle chorus, stereo chorus, heavy chorus; fast flange, slow flange; medium phase, stereo phase; 3-4 different types of delays, etc..For what you spend in pedals, this easily makes it up by giving you a lot more.For example: I loved my HBE Psylocibe, but so much that I wanted to have 2-3 of them so I could get various sounds out of it! I had to pretty much just stick with one, without changing it on the fly and then back and forth.Same for my EHX Stereo Electric Mistress, Boss DD3 delay, EBS MultiComp, Analogman TS9DX, etc.. Granted the modulation FX, specifically phaser and flange take some work to dial them in right, but once you do they do a passable job. The distortion and comp models as well as the reverb and delay are where it's at on this one. +1 to all of this. I just got one last week, and couldn't be happier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bryan316 Posted December 22, 2008 Members Share Posted December 22, 2008 USE WHAT YOU LIKE BEST. I've seen multieffects pedalboards, alongside stomp boxes, all routed back into rack-mounted effects. If it gets you the sound you need, USE IT. Now then. Having said that... Effects can be highly over-rated. Yes, fun. But in the context of a band, with the rest of the instruments, and a drunk sound guy ruining your mix, and crappy room acoustics mudding up your sound, your effects could mean SQUAT to the audience. Don't RELY on your effects. Use them to your advantage, use them for key parts, use them for emphasis for the song. But don't rely on your effects to get YOUR TONE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MisfitKay138 Posted December 22, 2008 Members Share Posted December 22, 2008 the multi's that ive used dont really do it for me. cant get the right sound, theyre digital. i like the single effects better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Super Bass Posted December 22, 2008 Members Share Posted December 22, 2008 I prefer single effects, despise floor multieffect units and am interested by some rackmount effects units (specifically the AxeFX). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RSBro Posted December 22, 2008 Members Share Posted December 22, 2008 That's with the old distortion modeler. The M13 sounds even better. I'd like to do some double-blind "analog singles vs. digital multis" testing goin' on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bnyswonger Posted December 22, 2008 Members Share Posted December 22, 2008 Don't RELY on your effects. Use them to your advantage, use them for key parts, use them for emphasis for the song. But don't rely on your effects to get YOUR TONE. Was anyone suggesting that you should? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members y-o-y Posted December 22, 2008 Members Share Posted December 22, 2008 i've gone both routes, multi-pedals and also individual. i keep coming back to individual pedals. if i could somehow choose which pedals were inside my multi, i might go that route, but i just don't seem to care enough for what's in the multi's. ymmv. Or you keep going back to multis, depending on how you look at it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mlwarriner Posted December 22, 2008 Members Share Posted December 22, 2008 Or you keep going back to multis, depending on how you look at it i find myself happiest with singles. i've tried several different multi's (bass POD, korg ax-1b, boss me-50b, couple of different zooms) and i just can't get into them. i don't like having to edit/write the patches for the POD, and i don't like being limited to one distortion/flanger/delay with the ME-50b or having to shift on the fly. YMMV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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