Members J.Paul Posted March 15, 2011 Members Share Posted March 15, 2011 ....plus the tattoo is cool too. [ATTACH]332915[/ATTACH] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members kmart Posted March 15, 2011 Members Share Posted March 15, 2011 REALLY shoddy work: it's crooked AND off-center The tattoo is no great shakes either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Roy Brooks Posted March 16, 2011 Members Share Posted March 16, 2011 She's too skinny for me. I like my Fenders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Flogger59 Posted March 16, 2011 Members Share Posted March 16, 2011 What does she have written on her tits? Bumpers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BlueStrat Posted March 16, 2011 Members Share Posted March 16, 2011 What does she have written on her tits? Bumpers? Duh! HEADLIGHTS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators MrKnobs Posted March 16, 2011 Moderators Share Posted March 16, 2011 REALLY shoddy work: it's crooked AND off-center The tattoo is no great shakes either. How do you know it's off center until you see what's below? Terry D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members kmart Posted March 16, 2011 Members Share Posted March 16, 2011 How do you know it's off center until you see what's below? Terry D. Good point... But seriously, aesthetically speaking, center of torso is pretty obvious given where the belly button is. That tattoo is all kinds of wrong placement in relation to that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BlueStrat Posted March 16, 2011 Members Share Posted March 16, 2011 Good point...But seriously, aesthetically speaking, center of torso is pretty obvious given where the belly button is. That tattoo is all kinds of wrong placement in relation to that. Maybe she couldn't hold still! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TIMKEYS Posted March 16, 2011 Members Share Posted March 16, 2011 Good point...But seriously, aesthetically speaking, center of torso is pretty obvious given where the belly button is. That tattoo is all kinds of wrong placement in relation to that. Do you have any tattoos? Typically the artist goes over the placement when they put the pattern on to be tattood. You dont know what else is going to be tattood after that either. The only way to look at it is that its her tattoo , not yours.Would I put a fender logo on my body ,, prolly not. Would I get a tattoo. Yea got a couple big pieces. Bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members kmart Posted March 16, 2011 Members Share Posted March 16, 2011 Do you have any tattoos? Typically the artist goes over the placement when they put the pattern on to be tattood. You dont know what else is going to be tattood after that either. The only way to look at it is that its her tattoo , not yours.Would I put a fender logo on my body ,, prolly not. Would I get a tattoo. Yea got a couple big pieces. Bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Yes, actually, I have several, including a couple that some would consider larger pieces.I have a (former) tattoo artist in the immediate family; she apprenticed with one of the better regarded artists in the country (If you know the history of the name Grimm, you know). Some of the best regarded artists in the world are close friends of hers and acquaintances of mine. I've been in/around the tattoo industry/community to one degree or another for more than 15 years. Doesn't matter how much this artist went over placement with the chick who got the tattoo or not (more likely the case). Sure it's hers and not mine, but it's still a placement fail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TIMKEYS Posted March 16, 2011 Members Share Posted March 16, 2011 If she said to put it there ,, its not a fail. Its where the customer said to put it. Yup grimm is a well known name in ink. So is cliff raven ,, thats the linage of the guy who did alot of mine came from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators BATCAT Posted March 16, 2011 Moderators Share Posted March 16, 2011 I like tattoos, I like Fenders, and I like girls, but I still not really digging that particular one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members FitchFY Posted March 16, 2011 Members Share Posted March 16, 2011 Off-center, off-shmenter. Let's face it. On a classy chick like that? It's probably covering a knife wound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TIMKEYS Posted March 16, 2011 Members Share Posted March 16, 2011 I like tattoos, I like Fenders, and I like girls, but I still not really digging that particular one. thats cool. the problem is that you are right up front trying to judge it. you dont know the history , you dont know if there is more artwork to follow. Lots of times people show up at the shops with their own artwork. It might not satisfly you ,, but it may have alot of meaning to them. Tattoos are personal and they each have their own meaning. I didnt really look at that one that good ,, but it seems like the ink stayed in good and its not all spotty and dug up. If its not a perfect image put in a not so ideal spot , is pretty well up to the person getting the tattoo. I have never seen an artist not get approvial of the placement and artwork before they start putting the lines in. Its pretty obvious that this person wanted that tattoo. If you have been around tattoos as much as you say you have , you should know this {censored}. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators BATCAT Posted March 16, 2011 Moderators Share Posted March 16, 2011 thats cool. the problem is that you are right up front trying to judge it. you dont know the history , you dont know if there is more artwork to follow. Lots of times people show up at the shops with their own artwork. It might not satisfly you ,, but it may have alot of meaning to them. Tattoos are personal and they each have their own meaning. I didnt really look at that one that good ,, but it seems like the ink stayed in good and its not all spotty and dug up. If its not a perfect image put in a not so ideal spot , is pretty well up to the person getting the tattoo. I have never seen an artist not get approvial of the placement and artwork before they start putting the lines in. Its pretty obvious that this person wanted that tattoo. If you have been around tattoos as much as you say you have , you should know this {censored}. I'm not questioning the quality of the work or how happy the customer is. Yes, I'm making a subjective judgement based on how I like it. If she likes her tattoo, more power to her. I think it looks tacky. (and I married someone with a lot more ink that what one sees in that photo) Obviously she didn't get to impress me, some random dude on an internet forum, so whatever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members kmart Posted March 16, 2011 Members Share Posted March 16, 2011 If she said to put it there ,, its not a fail. Its where the customer said to put it. That's your perspective. Mine, it's a fail, period, and that's 100% on the artist. The girl getting it? Likely too dumb, uncaring, or at least unqualified, to recognize how it should line up on her torso from an aesthetic standpoint. Unless you think she consciously wanted it both crooked and off-center. Me? I kind of doubt that. In the end, if she's happy with it, that's all that matters for her, but it's still an art/execution fail nonetheless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TIMKEYS Posted March 16, 2011 Members Share Posted March 16, 2011 That's your perspective. Mine, it's a fail, period, and that's 100% on the artist. The girl getting it? Likely too dumb, uncaring, or at least unqualified, to recognize how it should line up on her torso from an aesthetic standpoint. Unless you think she consciously wanted it both crooked and off-center. Me? I kind of doubt that.In the end, if she's happy with it, that's all that matters for her, but it's still an art/execution fail nonetheless. Whatever ,,, how do you know there isnt more artwork to follow. I mean if you had seen the start of one of my tattoos you would have said ,, geesh that looks stupid. a little 2x2 cartoon airplane on the upper arm of a grizzly lookin biker. When the thing was finished it covers most of my upper arm and almost doesnt get covered by a short sleeve shirt. Its not a pair of ass antlers for christ sakes ,, no one says its gotta be centered. To be honest I didnt even look at the fact that it wasnt centered. Its a hand drawn fender logo done in black. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members wades_keys Posted March 16, 2011 Members Share Posted March 16, 2011 "ass antlers" Dude, you are KILLING ME today. This one is going in my vocabulary today. LMFAO rhat/TimKeys'ism's: "Ass Antlers": Tribal tattoo on a woman's lower back"8 hole mixer": A mixer with 8 xlr inputs"Strat and a hat": An SRV impersonator Keep em coming man, I love it. I'm laughing so damn hard I can't even see straight here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TIMKEYS Posted March 16, 2011 Members Share Posted March 16, 2011 "ass antlers"Dude, you are KILLING ME today. This one is going in my vocabulary today. LMFAO No problem ,, its far better term than tramp stamp. Its spring break ,, down here. The ass antlers are out in herds lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BlueStrat Posted March 16, 2011 Members Share Posted March 16, 2011 It's not the greatest tat job I've ever seen, but I wouldn't call it a fail. More like a miss. These are fails! etc etc etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TIMKEYS Posted March 16, 2011 Members Share Posted March 16, 2011 the third one looks like a mad hamster lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members wades_keys Posted March 16, 2011 Members Share Posted March 16, 2011 the third one looks like a mad hamster lol Richard Gere is on the phone. He says he wants his hamster back. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members kmart Posted March 16, 2011 Members Share Posted March 16, 2011 ...no one says its gotta be centered. No; YOU say it doesn't have to be centered.I say it should be.So would a billion other people, artists and non-artists alike, who understand and adhere to good composition and design standards, and I'd hazard a guess, especially any tattoo artist worth their salt who you'd ask. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TIMKEYS Posted March 16, 2011 Members Share Posted March 16, 2011 I don't. Nor do I care if there is or isn't.What I know is, it looks like crap to me; horrible placement. You're focusing on how well the ink was laid, maybe the line work, etc. GOOD tattooing is about a hell of a lot more than technique; may be a technically well done piece, but from an artistic perspective...it sucks.Doesn't matter if it will eventually be surrounded by the most amazing grey-scale work known to man; the heart of the piece will still be off-center and crooked, forever.Honestly, I don't understand why you feel the need to argue about this. Regardless of if you noticed it at first or not, do you deny that it is crooked and off-center in relation to her torso/belly button upon further inspection?No; YOU say it doesn't have to be centered.I say it should be.So would a billion other people, artists and non-artists alike, who understand and adhere to good composition and design standards, and I'd hazard a guess, especially any tattoo artist worth their salt who you'd ask. The F in fender is big ,, the rest of the letters are smaller. you gonna go for dead center with a ruler or from the balance of the piece. Looks like they went for balance on this one. Good tattoo artists does what the customer wants unless its somthing really brain dead like getting {censored} tattood on your face tattooing a minor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MartinC Posted March 16, 2011 Members Share Posted March 16, 2011 It's funny-we argue all the time about if musicians of various bents are artists, but bestow the label on tattoo practicioners without discussion. Or do you have to reach a certain level before your considered an artist in the tattoo business? If so, why would anyone get inked by an apprentice? Is a guy who simply copies an image an artist? Or a coverband tattoo dude? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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