Members doezer Posted March 22, 2012 Members Share Posted March 22, 2012 hi folks a quick question. ive come into a wee bit of money. :lol: not a lot but a bit.. not enough to upgrade the car but enough to buy a nice mic that will make the guitar wsound better live... i currently use a piezo pickup into teh PA.. sounds pretty good but has that piezo sound. the plan is to have it mic'ed as well and to blend the two sounds in the mixer. is it possible to get a bendy mic arm that can be mounted on the existing mic stand. To my amazement i dont see them in the stores!!! and then more importantly can anyone recommend a relatively cheap mic that doesnt feedback too much and woks well for live acoustic guitar??? there was a thread on this a while ago but i cant find it.... cheers d Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Terry Allan Hall Posted March 22, 2012 Members Share Posted March 22, 2012 hi folks a quick question. ive come into a wee bit of money. :lol: not a lot but a bit.. not enough to upgrade the car but enough to buy a nice mic that will make the guitar wsound better live... i currently use a piezo pickup into teh PA.. sounds pretty good but has that piezo sound. the plan is to have it mic'ed as well and to blend the two sounds in the mixer. is it possible to get a bendy mic arm that can be mounted on the existing mic stand. To my amazement i dont see them in the stores!!! and then more importantly can anyone recommend a relatively cheap mic that doesnt feedback too much and woks well for live acoustic guitar??? there was a thread on this a while ago but i cant find it.... cheers d Yes, you can buy a "auxilary bracket" and a gooseneck ("bendy mic arm" ): http://www.musiciansfriend.com/accessories/on-stage-stands-posi-lok-mini-mini-boomhttp://www.musiciansfriend.com/accessories/on-stage-stands-posi-lok-mini-mini-boom attached to: http://www.musiciansfriend.com/accessories/on-stage-stands-msa-9508-posi-lok-side-mount-boomhttp://www.musiciansfriend.com/accessories/on-stage-stands-msa-9508-posi-lok-side-mount-boom is what I use, but the first piece can be replaced by a gooseneck (http://www.musiciansfriend.com/drums-percussion/gibraltar-microphone-gooseneck/490740000104000http://www.musiciansfriend.com/drums-percussion/gibraltar-microphone-gooseneck/490740000104000), if desired. As for a reasonably priced mic, I use a SM57 from Shure - $100 or less http://www.musiciansfriend.com/pro-audio/shure-sm57-instrument-vocal-michttp://www.musiciansfriend.com/pro-audio/shure-sm57-instrument-vocal-mic Some prefer a condenser mic, and if your mixer board has phantom power, that's a good way to go, as well, but they're delicate and costlier. Hope this helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members daklander Posted March 22, 2012 Members Share Posted March 22, 2012 Personally I got away from the goosenecks. I use this. Or, once in a while, this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Moderators daddymack Posted March 22, 2012 Moderators Share Posted March 22, 2012 what is that thing (I'm guessing that it's a small condenser...)? How does it attach to the guitar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Moderators daddymack Posted March 23, 2012 Moderators Share Posted March 23, 2012 I have seen similar for horn players...just had not seen one installed on a guitar. the one on the 12string looks like it would interfere with my strumming, but the clamp on idea is fairly clever....one of the drawbacks to using a mic on a stand has always been player movement, the clamp solves that, although, then, just like headset mics, you don't have the same ability to alter the dynamics by moving off mic...but all in all the + outweighs the -.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members daklander Posted March 24, 2012 Members Share Posted March 24, 2012 I have seen similar for horn players...just had not seen one installed on a guitar. the one on the 12string looks like it would interfere with my strumming, but the clamp on idea is fairly clever....one of the drawbacks to using a mic on a stand has always been player movement, the clamp solves that, although, then, just like headset mics, you don't have the same ability to alter the dynamics by moving off mic...but all in all the + outweighs the -.... An issue with clamp on or in the hole mics that put me off is the tendency to pick up every little bit of noise you get from fingers, forearm, clothing, adjusting the guitar postition & etc. IMHO, player position is not really an issue since you learn to stick where you should and most of the time a mic'd guitar is used in a sit down situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators daddymack Posted March 24, 2012 Moderators Share Posted March 24, 2012 An issue with clamp on or in the hole mics that put me off is the tendency to pick up every little bit of noise you get from fingers, forearm, clothing, adjusting the guitar postition & etc.IMHO, player position is not really an issue since you learn to stick where you should and most of the time a mic'd guitar is used in a sit down situation. I agree, but really pretty much any omni directional mic will do that, but, as I learned years ago doing studio work: with a highly directional mic, you can't move... even taking a deeper than normal breath can make a difference. Again, a lot of tradeoffs. A lot depends on room, mic,instrument, playing style, the PA, and what you want to sound like...I have yet to find the perfect 'one rig does all'... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members daklander Posted March 24, 2012 Members Share Posted March 24, 2012 I agree, but really pretty much any omni directional mic will do that, but, as I learned years ago doing studio work: with a highly directional mic, you can't move... even taking a deeper than normal breath can make a difference. Again, a lot of tradeoffs. A lot depends on room, mic,instrument, playing style, the PA, and what you want to sound like...I have yet to find the perfect 'one rig does all'... For live work I normally use a dynamic mic with a cardioid pattern. That gives some leeway in movment, is sensitive enough to pick up the guitar but not so sensitive it picks up every little thing, such as the guitar rubbing on your shirt if you adjust the guitar. For studio I don't use a highly directional mic either, opting for cardioid or super cardioid if using a single mic. I agree there is no perfect rig and certainly not one that does it all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cephus Posted March 26, 2012 Members Share Posted March 26, 2012 A mic is great for studio, but I tend to knock into them all the time. As a compromise, I might suggest a contact transducer to blend with the snarly peizo. I have this yamaha LD acoustic that has a pieze and the contact pickup that you can mix together. The piezo alone sounds terrible. The transducer alone sounds terrible, but blended together gives a really nice acoustic sound. I think I usually mix it 70% transducer so that the pieze just picks up the attack. Using a 57 on a gooseneck is a pain. If you move at all it drastically affects the level. If you turn your head or something and accidentally let the mic hit the strings it gives a terrible BRRRRRRR through the PA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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