Members cmw Posted August 20, 2008 Members Share Posted August 20, 2008 I want to put a volume pedal in my signal path so I can do swells. I'm considering either the Boss FV-500H or the Ernie Ball (either VP Jr. or 6166) and welcome opinions of either. The real question is ... should I go with the mono version and put it right after the guitar? Or the stereo version and put it right before the power amp? Another thought is also running a stereo volume pedal between the wet signal coming from my fx processor and my line mixer. That way I could control the wetness more conveniently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Zachman Posted August 20, 2008 Members Share Posted August 20, 2008 I want to put a volume pedal in my signal path so I can do swells. I'm considering either the Boss FV-500H or the Ernie Ball (either VP Jr. or 6166) and welcome opinions of either. The real question is ... should I go with the mono version and put it right after the guitar? Or the stereo version and put it right before the power amp? Another thought is also running a stereo volume pedal between the wet signal coming from my fx processor and my line mixer. That way I could control the wetness more conveniently. Another thought is: running a L as an expression pedal to adjust parameter controls in real time. Here is how my setup is done. I use 3 volume pedals pre-fx, post-fx and a CC expression pedal for the Eventide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members fuzzball Posted August 20, 2008 Members Share Posted August 20, 2008 Another thought is: running a L as an expression pedal to adjust parameter controls in real time. Here is how my setup is done. I use 3 volume pedals pre-fx, post-fx and a CC expression pedal for the Eventide. Wow.... Wow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Zachman Posted August 20, 2008 Members Share Posted August 20, 2008 Wow.... Wow Ya, it's a sickness. I am in the final phase This is the rig: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members fuzzball Posted August 20, 2008 Members Share Posted August 20, 2008 Ya, it's a sickness. I am in the final phase This is the rig: Excuse me for a moment..............I have to clean my computer screen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Dror520 Posted August 20, 2008 Members Share Posted August 20, 2008 Hey, Zach How are the Boss Volume Pedals ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BigFatPaulWall Posted August 20, 2008 Members Share Posted August 20, 2008 Ya, it's a sickness. I am in the final phase This is the rig: I'll go change my pants now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members fuzzball Posted August 20, 2008 Members Share Posted August 20, 2008 Man that is sweet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Zachman Posted August 21, 2008 Members Share Posted August 21, 2008 Hey, Zach How are the Boss Volume Pedals ? They are way more sturdy than the EB's the interaction is smooth and very natural feeling. I LOVE them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Dror520 Posted August 21, 2008 Members Share Posted August 21, 2008 They are way more sturdy than the EB's the interaction is smooth and very natural feeling. I LOVE them. thx again for the answer ... they even cost lest so that's cool to know ... BTW do you use the Stereo or the Mono and how do I know which one I need ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Zachman Posted August 21, 2008 Members Share Posted August 21, 2008 thx again for the answer ... they even cost lest so that's cool to know ... BTW do you use the Stereo or the Mono and how do I know which one I need ? I use 2 FV500H pedals and 1 FV500L. Depending on where in your signal chain you want to put them, will tell you which one you want to use. IF you're using it from your guitar which is a high impedance source, assuming you use passive pickups, you'd use the H, IF you're using it in a loop or as an expression pedal, you'd use an L. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Dror520 Posted August 21, 2008 Members Share Posted August 21, 2008 I use 2 FV500H pedals and 1 FV500L. Depending on where in your signal chain you want to put them, will tell you which one you want to use. IF you're using it from your guitar which is a high impedance source, assuming you use passive pickups, you'd use the H, IF you're using it in a loop or as an expression pedal, you'd use an L. So if i want one volume pedal and one expression pedal I'll need one H and one L ? is that right ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Zachman Posted August 21, 2008 Members Share Posted August 21, 2008 So if i want one volume pedal and one expression pedal I'll need one H and one L ? is that right ? IF you use the volume pedal from your guitar to the volume pedal (Pre-fx type volume pedal... yes) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Dror520 Posted August 21, 2008 Members Share Posted August 21, 2008 Is there another way to put the volume pedal so that it changes the volume ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Zachman Posted August 21, 2008 Members Share Posted August 21, 2008 Is there another way to put the volume pedal so that it changes the volume ? You may use one as a post-effects volume pedal so that when you pull it back your delay trails as an example still trail. Here is an example of that with this pedal that Bob goes through with my rig: [YOUTUBE]CdHwhMzJbeo&feature=related[/YOUTUBE] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Dror520 Posted August 21, 2008 Members Share Posted August 21, 2008 OH! I gotcha ... if i want the effect to sound after i pull up my volume pedal i can do that by putting it after the effects right ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Zachman Posted August 21, 2008 Members Share Posted August 21, 2008 OH! I gotcha ... if i want the effect to sound after i pull up my volume pedal i can do that by putting it after the effects right ?? , When you want your input signal to go away when you pull your volume pedal back, your delays will trail OR when you want your effects signal only to cut off when you pull back your volume pedal and be left with your unaffected signal... I do this as well when I want to go from that pure vintage amp tone to mixing in my wet/effects signal, I can mix how much effects signal I want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Dror520 Posted August 21, 2008 Members Share Posted August 21, 2008 and if I just want it to do the volume ... i just plug the guitar to it and from there to all other stuff ?? won't it ruin the tone ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cmw Posted August 21, 2008 Author Members Share Posted August 21, 2008 You may use one as a post-effects volume pedal so that when you pull it back your delay trails as an example still trail. Wouldn't that be the definition of PRE effects? If the volume pedal were post-effects, the trails would be silenced as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Zachman Posted August 21, 2008 Members Share Posted August 21, 2008 Wouldn't that be the definition of PRE effects? If the volume pedal were post-effects, the trails would be silenced as well. My bad, yes... The post pedal is the one I use mainly as a level mix control, and the 3rd one, I use for CC functions for the Eventide (internal mix level, various parameter controls (room size, speed control for univibe, sample level, chorus depth etc...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Dror520 Posted August 21, 2008 Members Share Posted August 21, 2008 ya thx for clearing that out .... but still ... Zach if I want the pedal to do the easiest thing, controlling the volume ... where should i put the pedal ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Zachman Posted August 21, 2008 Members Share Posted August 21, 2008 ya thx for clearing that out .... but still ... Zach if I want the pedal to do the easiest thing, controlling the volume ... where should i put the pedal ? Well you could go guitar to volume pedal to amp OR guitar to fuzz, compressor, OD, distortion, flanger, delay, to volume pedal to amp (This will turn down the gain hiss etc... from the pedals preceding the volume pedal, if say you keep the pedals on, but turn down to tune (tuner in the tuner port of the pedal and out of the signal chain, eliminating the tuners tone suckage) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Zachman Posted August 21, 2008 Members Share Posted August 21, 2008 and if I just want it to do the volume ... i just plug the guitar to it and from there to all other stuff ?? won't it ruin the tone ? ya, possibly... I'd put it last before the amp, with the pedals in front of the volume pedal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Dror520 Posted August 21, 2008 Members Share Posted August 21, 2008 so that way it will still control the master volume and the tone suckage will be less ? and if i have a g-major ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Zachman Posted August 21, 2008 Members Share Posted August 21, 2008 and if i have a g-major ? I'd put that in the loop of your amp. If you wanted to, you could go effects send to a volume pedal to your G-major, to your loop return Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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