Members Gorgon90 Posted August 21, 2008 Members Share Posted August 21, 2008 Someone, correct me if I'm wrong but I think your options for volume placement are roughly these. 1) Guitar -> Volume Pedal -> Everything else. This setup allows you to change the level hitting the preamp part of your rig. Turning down the volume will be like backing off your guitar volume and will reduce the gain level. 2) Guitar -> Pedals/Preamp -> Volume Pedal -> Post preamp effects and power stage. This setup will not effect the gain level of your preamp but rather controls the volume of the rig (ie. you're still on 11 dirt wise but this controls whether it's at 10dB or 100dB). Effects like reverb and delay being post volume pedal will tail off. 3) Guitar -> Pedals/Preamp -> Post preamp effects in serial setup -> Volume Pedal -> Power stage. This setup again acts as a straight volume control but will cut out the effects as well so there is no tailing out. 4) Guitar -> Pedals/Preamp -> Post preamp effects and volume pedal in parallel loop/setup -> Power stage. Putting the volume pedal in the parallel loop after the effects will allow you to control your wet mix but not necessarily change any volume levels but would cut off tails. Before the effects in the loop would leave tails. I think that's it, hope this helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Dror520 Posted August 21, 2008 Members Share Posted August 21, 2008 Someone, correct me if I'm wrong but I think your options for volume placement are roughly these.1) Guitar -> Volume Pedal -> Everything else. This setup allows you to change the level hitting the preamp part of your rig. Turning down the volume will be like backing off your guitar volume and will reduce the gain level.2) Guitar -> Pedals/Preamp -> Volume Pedal -> Post preamp effects and power stage. This setup will not effect the gain level of your preamp but rather controls the volume of the rig (ie. you're still on 11 dirt wise but this controls whether it's at 10dB or 100dB). Effects like reverb and delay being post volume pedal will tail off.3) Guitar -> Pedals/Preamp -> Post preamp effects in serial setup -> Volume Pedal -> Power stage. This setup again acts as a straight volume control but will cut out the effects as well so there is no tailing out.4) Guitar -> Pedals/Preamp -> Post preamp effects and volume pedal in parallel loop/setup -> Power stage. Putting the volume pedal in the parallel loop after the effects will allow you to control your wet mix but not necessarily change any volume levels but would cut off tails. Before the effects in the loop would leave tails.I think that's it, hope this helps. thx !!! so what is the best option for me if i have a g-major and i don't want effect tailing ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cmw Posted August 21, 2008 Author Members Share Posted August 21, 2008 If you don't want effect trailing, just put it right before the amp, and after everything else. I guess my question is ... if you could only have one volume pedal ... at least for now ... would you put it first or last? I'm thinking for my purposes ... the ability to do swells ... first is probably the way to go. (but i'm open to suggestion). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Dror520 Posted August 21, 2008 Members Share Posted August 21, 2008 If you don't want effect trailing, just put it right before the amp, and after everything else.I guess my question is ... if you could only have one volume pedal ... at least for now ... would you put it first or last?I'm thinking for my purposes ... the ability to do swells ... first is probably the way to go. (but i'm open to suggestion). the same question here ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Zachman Posted August 21, 2008 Members Share Posted August 21, 2008 If you don't want effect trailing, just put it right before the amp, and after everything else.I guess my question is ... if you could only have one volume pedal ... at least for now ... would you put it first or last?I'm thinking for my purposes ... the ability to do swells ... first is probably the way to go. (but i'm open to suggestion). You're reminding me of walters9515 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Zachman Posted August 21, 2008 Members Share Posted August 21, 2008 the same question here ... Nice run... I call troll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Dror520 Posted August 21, 2008 Members Share Posted August 21, 2008 so what is the answer ??? do i need to put in last or at the beginning of the chain ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Gorgon90 Posted August 21, 2008 Members Share Posted August 21, 2008 I guess my question is ... if you could only have one volume pedal ... at least for now ... would you put it first or last?I'm thinking for my purposes ... the ability to do swells ... first is probably the way to go. (but i'm open to suggestion). If you want volume swells like you get from using your guitar volume pot then yes, guitar straight to volume pedal is the way to go as in 1) in my above post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Dror520 Posted August 21, 2008 Members Share Posted August 21, 2008 If i have a head and a g-major can you tell me the chain i need to do to make it happen so that i can do volumes swells and control the master volume ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Gorgon90 Posted August 21, 2008 Members Share Posted August 21, 2008 Assuming you have an fx loop in the head, you need 2 volume pedals. If you don't have a loop you can't do the master volume part. The first one goes after the guitar before going into amp. This does the volume swells as you'd do with your guitar's volume pot. The second one goes in the fx loop which needs to be either working as a serial loop or set to a 100% wet if it's a parallel one. This means that all the signal hitting the power amp stage of the head is coming from the fx loop return. Placing the volume in front of the G-Major in the loop would let delays and reverbs tail off, while after the G-Major it'll cut the tails off as well. This is the master volume part. You may be better off doing this part using an expression pedal and controlling the volume output from the G-Major through Midi rather than using a second volume pedal in line. Good luck with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cmw Posted August 21, 2008 Author Members Share Posted August 21, 2008 You're reminding me of walters9515 Please elaborate ... Nice run... I call troll I don't get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Zachman Posted August 21, 2008 Members Share Posted August 21, 2008 Please elaborate ...I don't get it. Do a search... you'll get it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Dror520 Posted August 21, 2008 Members Share Posted August 21, 2008 so if i want to do volume swells and control the volume .... i just need to put it in the beginning of the signal chain ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Zachman Posted August 21, 2008 Members Share Posted August 21, 2008 so if i want to do volume swells and control the volume .... i just need to put it in the beginning of the signal chain ?Use your guitar volume knob, and a delay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Dror520 Posted August 21, 2008 Members Share Posted August 21, 2008 ya but the volume knob also raises or lowers the gain .... and a volume pedal is better .... so where should i put it Zach ? C'mon give me a answer ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Zachman Posted August 21, 2008 Members Share Posted August 21, 2008 ya but the volume knob also raises or lowers the gain .... and a volume pedal is better .... so where should i put it Zach ? C'mon give me a answer ? Ya well... There is no substitute for experience, so in this case I suggest you try everything that's already been suggested and let us know what you prefer. The jig is up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Dror520 Posted August 21, 2008 Members Share Posted August 21, 2008 what are the main options if i want volume swells and to control the entire volume of all the signal chain ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Zachman Posted August 21, 2008 Members Share Posted August 21, 2008 what are the main options if i want volume swells and to control the entire volume of all the signal chain ? walters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cmw Posted August 21, 2008 Author Members Share Posted August 21, 2008 Do a search... you'll get itI'm not really sure why you are attempting to insult me (I assume that's what you're doing). Perhaps your beef is with Dror520? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Zachman Posted August 21, 2008 Members Share Posted August 21, 2008 I'm not really sure why you are attempting to insult me (I assume that's what you're doing). Perhaps your beef is with Dror520? uh huh I find it interesting that you BOTH have accounts with very similar post counts which were started quite a while ago, and seem to show up together a lot. hmmm, one in the same... perhaps, maybe not just a sneaking suspicion on my part Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cmw Posted August 21, 2008 Author Members Share Posted August 21, 2008 Look, I can't help the fact that some other guy has a similiar post count and wandered into my thread and played 20 questions on how a volume pedal works. These are the internets and crazy {censored} like that happens. What I do know, is that this is my sole account, and I'm just a guy with an extra hundred bucks in his pocket who needs a volume pedal, and was looking for advice. And now, I think I have enough information to make an informed decision. Thanks for your input. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Zachman Posted August 21, 2008 Members Share Posted August 21, 2008 Look, I can't help the fact that some other guy has a similiar post count and wandered into my thread and played 20 questions on how a volume pedal works. These are the internets and crazy {censored} like that happens.What I do know, is that this is my sole account, and I'm just a guy with an extra hundred bucks in his pocket who needs a volume pedal, and was looking for advice. And now, I think I have enough information to make an informed decision. Thanks for your input. fair enough, if I'm wrong--I apologize Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Dror520 Posted August 21, 2008 Members Share Posted August 21, 2008 I'm sorry too... it's you're thread and i made it mine... I just got shift away .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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