Members julius_the_cat Posted March 6, 2006 Members Share Posted March 6, 2006 Buy used MixWiz now or wait until next month (or whenever) to buy a 16FX? Novice class operator. thanks for any opinions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members prosigna Posted March 6, 2006 Members Share Posted March 6, 2006 which MixWiz? How old? What shape is it in? How clean is it? Have you run signal into all the channels and checked for scratchy pots or faders? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMS Author Craig Vecchione Posted March 6, 2006 CMS Author Share Posted March 6, 2006 A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush. Or something like that..... As much as I like Peavey, and have one of their mixers, I can't possibly recommend purchasing a product that's not available, let alone out there and proven. It comes down to whether or not you can afford to wait and check out the new Peavey, or whether you need a mixer now. It's hard to knock a Mixwiz, provided it's fully functional and a decent deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members julius_the_cat Posted March 6, 2006 Author Members Share Posted March 6, 2006 two years old 14:4:2+ supposedly clean, have yet to check it out.what would be a fair price? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TimmyP Posted March 7, 2006 Members Share Posted March 7, 2006 I can't find any info on the 16FX. Does it have individual PCBs for ease of service like the MixWiz? Dual sweep mids? Six auxes? Inserts on every channel? Have a link to any info? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members julius_the_cat Posted March 7, 2006 Author Members Share Posted March 7, 2006 The 16fx model was announced last year, but won't be available for purchase until next month or ? later. "The four pre-fader auxes per channel facilitate monitoring for live sound or recording, while the two post-fader auxes are ideal for adding effects (those built-in or outboard). These mixers also include dual digital effects processors to allow multiple simultaneous effects assignable to any channel via auxiliaries 5 and 6. The many onboard effects include reverb, delay, compression, de-esser, chorus and gate/expander. The FX Series allows editing of effects with a library for each effect. There are two output processors operable in three modes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BlackBelt Posted March 7, 2006 Members Share Posted March 7, 2006 That Peavey is actually a cool looking little mixer. I might have to check into one of those myself... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Audioeast Posted March 7, 2006 Members Share Posted March 7, 2006 well the obvious downfall would be the EQ.....how did PV miss that....there isnt enough mixers with 3 band eqs ...... mix wiz still gets my vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMS Author Craig Vecchione Posted March 7, 2006 CMS Author Share Posted March 7, 2006 Interesting, the 16fx is actually what, a 12ch mixer? I'm assuming the two stereo channels have and XLR mono input, but can't tell by the pic in that link. So this mixer competes with the Mixwiz 14:4:2. I'd have to assume the 24FX is actually 16 full channels, but I'd have to see one to know. The MW has an advantage in having 100mm faders, and dual sweepable mid bands. The former is more attractive for me personally, but I can see a lot of folks wanting dual mids. Mixing on a MW is always a pleasure, but so too is my old RQ series Peavey. It seems there's a tough sell here...assuming competitive pricing, why should I buy the relatively unknown new Peavey vs the established Mixwiz? I'm not asking rhetorically....someone tell me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members prosigna Posted March 7, 2006 Members Share Posted March 7, 2006 (1) MixWiz has 2 sweeping mid EQ's. That is BIG! (2) MixWiz has Phantom Power Switches on each channel. That is BIG! Other than that the feature set is similar. Do you need sub groups for any specific reason? I have never understood the need for subgroups on most 16-ch mixers. Unless you have a reason for the groups I would lean toward a new MixWiz 16:2. It is less money than either of the others and has 16 full functioning channels. MixWiz has a solid reputation. Of course there are still peaveys around from the 70's. One has a batter brand envy name (I'll let you decide which one.) I don't like anything in its first model year: not cars, not TV's, not wireless equipment, and not mixers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dboomer Posted March 7, 2006 Members Share Posted March 7, 2006 Originally posted by Craigv why should I buy the relatively unknown new Peavey vs the established Mixwiz? I'm not asking rhetorically....someone tell me. Couple of things ... It's not new and unknown ... it's an updated RQ with better mic pre's! I think if you are compairing our $799 mixer to the A&H $1350 unit, both of which have 12 ch faders you might expect some difference. For one .. the Peavey has two of the best, three programmable efx at a time, units we ever made, a mini-VSX( two 27 band GEQs, 2 comp/Limiters, 2 feedback Ferret and an adjustable x-over)son the outputs and realtime MP3 stereo recording (just add a USB stick) included in the price. The 24FX has 20 mono mic ins and the 32FX has 28. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMS Author Craig Vecchione Posted March 7, 2006 CMS Author Share Posted March 7, 2006 Originally posted by dboomer Couple of things ...It's not new and unknown ... it's an updated RQ with better mic pre's!I think if you are compairing our $799 mixer to the A&H $1350 unit, both of which have 12 ch faders you might expect some difference. For one .. the Peavey has two of the best, three programmable efx at a time, units we ever made, a mini-VSX( two 27 band GEQs, 2 comp/Limiters, 2 feedback Ferret and an adjustable x-over)son the outputs and realtime MP3 stereo recording (just add a USB stick) included in the price.The 24FX has 20 mono mic ins and the 32FX has 28. $800 ?? The Musician's Buy ad linked above has the 16FX at $1,100. If it's $800 street, that's a no-brainer. Assuming the copy in that link is what Peavey provides, perhaps more emphasis can be made of the crossover, VSX and Ferret features, as it's a little vague IMHO. Me likely from what you're writing. But first can we get some verification of the street pricing approximates? And a release date..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dboomer Posted March 7, 2006 Members Share Posted March 7, 2006 I can confirm LIST prices ... 16FX - $999 24FX - $1299 32FX - $1499 You'll have to use your imagination to figure out "street" pricing There are a few of these units out in the world being beta tested now. We have the units here in our warehouse now and are just finishing up the software ... which as soon as we load it in will be released ... probably 7-10 days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members abzurd Posted March 7, 2006 Members Share Posted March 7, 2006 Sweetwater is advertising the FX24 at $999. Not bad. I'd consider giving up a 2nd mid sweep for all the other features. I'm a bit confused on this part of the description: There are two output processors operable in three modes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMS Author Craig Vecchione Posted March 7, 2006 CMS Author Share Posted March 7, 2006 Yeah, it's almost like the advantages of a digital mixer (lots of DSP stuff in one box) without the unsighly interface. So what's up with that Musician's buy ad for $100 over List price??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ear Abuser Posted March 7, 2006 Members Share Posted March 7, 2006 My local peavey dealer is usually in the area of 0.7 times MSRP. Remember, the best prices are not usually on the website- you gotta talk to da man! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members julius_the_cat Posted March 7, 2006 Author Members Share Posted March 7, 2006 Sweetwater has the 16FX at $799 expected to arrive 13 april. Have a crossover, a functioning symetrix compressor and an FX unit. don't absolutely need 16 mic channels. like the way the MW can send aux 1-4 to the subgroups for monitors and use their faders. could sell the outboard gear certainly. the easier to use the better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMS Author Craig Vecchione Posted March 8, 2006 CMS Author Share Posted March 8, 2006 Originally posted by Ear Abuser My local peavey dealer is usually in the area of 0.7 times MSRP. Remember, the best prices are not usually on the website- you gotta talk to da man! True dat. I don't buy online if I can buy locally. I hate waiting for anything, and hate having to ship items back if they don't work out. I also usually get a better deal than online, or match it. Mostly I just want to test my purchase, take it home then and there, and support the brick and mortar so I can keep doing this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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