Members min7b5 Posted January 27, 2007 Members Share Posted January 27, 2007 As part my solo acoustic guitar rig I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Not Serial Posted January 27, 2007 Members Share Posted January 27, 2007 i would say there is a disadvantage to your setup. depending on the output of the mic it can work like you describe, but since the nano is looking for a line level and yur mic is likely a lot less than this level the result is quiet. i suggest you run the mic into a mixer and use the nano as a send/return or at the very least an insert (p.s. dont use it as an insert) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members nobrainer440 Posted January 27, 2007 Members Share Posted January 27, 2007 Yeah, the is nothing wrong with XLR to 1/4", but there is something wrong with mixing up mic level and line level signals. Your mic needs to be run through some kind of preamp before feeding line-level gear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members min7b5 Posted January 27, 2007 Author Members Share Posted January 27, 2007 Yeah, the is nothing wrong with XLR to 1/4", but there is something wrong with mixing up mic level and line level signals. Your mic needs to be run through some kind of preamp before feeding line-level gear. Thanks for the info:) So is this causing any damage, or am I just losing volume? The mic is an Audi i5 dynamic, and the speaker(s) are the RFC, set for mic level. Last night at my regular wine bar gig was the first time I tried this set up and it was the best tone I think I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members boomerweps Posted January 28, 2007 Members Share Posted January 28, 2007 I don't know of any specific mic processor to recommend since I don't use one, but they just about all have mic preamps in then for using them direct. As far as getting and using a mixer with a mic preamp and knowing the slamming will begin, Behringer sells a couple tiny mixers, specifically the two mono mic channel one (formerly MX602, then UB802, now something else 802) that's very small, has phantom power for active DI or condenser mics, a post fader Aux send for FX looping, and a couple stereo channels for other stuff like playing a CD on break or a backing track. I think the new ones are about $60 USD. Line wart power supply and no on/off switch on the UB802 that I bought on closeout for $40 for the occassional DJing and as a Phantom power supply ;>) Peavey makes several small mixers but I'm not familiar with the newer ones, features & cost. But they will be dependable. Boomerweps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members min7b5 Posted January 28, 2007 Author Members Share Posted January 28, 2007 Thanks again:) Since I posted this afternoon I played a very large silent auction type corporate gig. Pretty huge room. I used the same setup, sounded great again, but I now see the point about the line level thing. I noticed that I had the volume on the speaker and Nano WAY higher than I normally do when I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members agedhorse Posted January 28, 2007 Members Share Posted January 28, 2007 First thing to try is a mic to line transformer, that may give you enough voltage "gain" (due to the impedance transformation) to work out ok. The Nanoverb has a fair amount of gain on the input (and the outut as make-up) so you may indeed get away with this set-up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members min7b5 Posted January 28, 2007 Author Members Share Posted January 28, 2007 First thing to try is a mic to line transformer, that may give you enough voltage "gain" (due to the impedance transformation) to work out ok... Like this? http://www.procosound.com/downloads/it1.pdf Or just something like this? http://www.alphasoundandlighting.com/proaudio/mic_line_transformer_AT.html Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members agedhorse Posted January 28, 2007 Members Share Posted January 28, 2007 Not the PRO-CO device as that is a 1:1 device. The AT unit is exactly what I am talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members min7b5 Posted January 28, 2007 Author Members Share Posted January 28, 2007 Not the PRO-CO device as that is a 1:1 device. The AT unit is exactly what I am talking about. Ok, cool. One more question, do I need to put one after or before the Nano, or both? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members agedhorse Posted January 29, 2007 Members Share Posted January 29, 2007 before the nano only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members min7b5 Posted February 2, 2007 Author Members Share Posted February 2, 2007 before the nano only. Wow, what a dif! Thanks:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members agedhorse Posted February 2, 2007 Members Share Posted February 2, 2007 No problem, glad it worked as I suspected, though a couple of the new people here might hate it when I am right (Actually, I was involved with the development of the chipset used in the Nano, and did pre-release development of different application circuits using Beta silicon, so I was not really guessing or flying blind) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DaBender Posted February 3, 2007 Members Share Posted February 3, 2007 I use a Nanoverb in front of my 1964 Fender Concert. I adjust the input to my guitar, and max the output to goose the front end of the Concert, and mix "room2 reverb" to taste. I know a lot of tone snobs hate digital reverbs, but I think it sweetens up my tone nicely, and I get lots of compliments on my sound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members agedhorse Posted February 3, 2007 Members Share Posted February 3, 2007 Some ofthe Nano presets are well implimented. Keith Barr is the one primarily responsible for the code and algorthems behind the product. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Al Poulin Posted February 3, 2007 Members Share Posted February 3, 2007 No problem, glad it worked as I suspected, though a couple of the new people here might hate it when I am right I think you might be imagining things. Seriously, dude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members agedhorse Posted February 3, 2007 Members Share Posted February 3, 2007 I think you might be imagining things. Seriously, dude. Al... I'm kidding ((( ))) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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