Members cmgunn Posted May 8, 2008 Members Share Posted May 8, 2008 Which do you like better? The JBL MRX528S, the JBL SRX728S, the Peavey QW218, the Versarray 218, or the Peavey SP218? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MrJoshua Posted May 8, 2008 Members Share Posted May 8, 2008 I haven't used any of them personally. So I'd try to find a store that stocked all of them and try them out. That said, I admit to being a little biased toward Peavey products, in a good way. It's been my experience that they usually rate pretty high in the bang-for-the-buck category, and they're generally hard to kill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members agedhorse Posted May 8, 2008 Members Share Posted May 8, 2008 You do know that the QW and Versarray subs are closer (though IMO not the same) to the SRX type product right? The comparison is somewhat skewed IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cmgunn Posted May 8, 2008 Author Members Share Posted May 8, 2008 You do know that the QW and Versarray subs are closer (though IMO not the same) to the SRX type product right? The comparison is somewhat skewed IMO. I am aware of that. But they are a few hundred dollars cheaper that the SRX. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dboomer Posted May 8, 2008 Members Share Posted May 8, 2008 I am aware of that. But they are a few hundred dollars cheaper that the SRX. That orange badge is expensive ... huh:lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members agedhorse Posted May 8, 2008 Members Share Posted May 8, 2008 I am aware of that. But they are a few hundred dollars cheaper that the SRX. and more expensive than the MRX. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cmgunn Posted May 8, 2008 Author Members Share Posted May 8, 2008 and more expensive than the MRX. I am aware that they are more expensive than the MRX, but not my much. They're right in the middle of the MRX and the SRX price wise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mogwix Posted May 8, 2008 Members Share Posted May 8, 2008 The VR218's are really intense subwoofers. They're heavy as hell and can take a LOT of power. If you want extremely high power, of the options, go with these. I have no idea how they sound but I know they'll destroy everything with pure volume. The QW218's are heavy and have a nice response, but don't go as low as say Ev's QRx subs. I run a 40Hz HP filter on the subs usually anyhow so I guess this doesn't really matter. They weren't as smooth as I would've liked but they're definitely fantastic subwoofers for the money. The QW series altogether is well-built and sound very good. The SRX subs are awesome too, but for the money the QW subs would be a better choice. I haven't used the MRX subs but a lot here seem to enjoy JBL's MRX line of speakers. SP218's are decent subs but they're more oriented towards rock bands who need a big PA for not that much money. They're decent subwoofers but extremely fantastic for the money, definitely worth the few bucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cmgunn Posted May 8, 2008 Author Members Share Posted May 8, 2008 In terms of performance; VR218 > QW218 > UCS1 > MRX528QW218 = LS1208 = EV PhoenixUCS1 = SRX728 = QRx218MRX528 = SP218 = QW118 So even the SP218 is better than the MRX? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members agedhorse Posted May 8, 2008 Members Share Posted May 8, 2008 So even the SP218 is better than the MRX? I don't think so. And there's a pretty big difference in weight too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members fireryan Posted May 8, 2008 Members Share Posted May 8, 2008 I do not have experience with Peavy subs, however I just got the QW4 ( horn with two 15" drivers ) The QW series has a great durable cabinet which is a plus for durability if you're setting up and breaking down. Surprisingly enough the little Active PR15's I use for smaller gigs.....well they are loud and sound pretty dam good...really good. Especially for the money. 90% of our gigs, the QW4's are going to be an overkill. In my case (portable PA) we had yamaha s215's and they were "okay" leading us to get the QW4's hearing them in the store. If I could do it all over again I'd get Powered everything and run it with the DriveRack PX. Good luck on your journey....http://www.firebrigaderocks.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members agedhorse Posted May 8, 2008 Members Share Posted May 8, 2008 But if you looking for light weight and high performance sub, they don Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members agedhorse Posted May 8, 2008 Members Share Posted May 8, 2008 and you also need a Crown IT8000 to power 4 sub cabs. So if you spend the money your still using a 150+ lbs cab. I disagree. Output versus weight is better by at least 3dB/lb. That's double the improvement for the math challanged. 1/2-space for the Peavey VR218 is 41Hz (-3dB) at 200 lbs The VRX-900 is 81 lbs. It's got a lot of LF output for a compact lightweight sub. The bigger Vertecs are 151 lbs and 185 lbs but the -3dB power bandwidth is 29 and 25Hz respectively and and real sensitivity is more substantial in terms of real world output (factoring in the bandwidth) than the the other products. 800 watts per driver (1000 watts for the high excursion model) is a good power level as power compression reduces much of the gain above this power level anyway. It's the point of diminishing returns IMO. You do not NEED an I-Tech 8000 to get within 3dB of the maximum real world performance, and you will need real protection if you choose to power them at that level or you will find out just how expensive the recones are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members drumstix Posted May 8, 2008 Members Share Posted May 8, 2008 Two self powered VRX918 subs will cost less than $4000.00, two self powered RCF TT18's will probably be in the $5000 area. Either of these pairs of subs should rock your world and cost about the same as all these high dollar amps needed to power most of these dual 18 subs. Just a thought. What type of venues do you play in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cmgunn Posted May 8, 2008 Author Members Share Posted May 8, 2008 and you also need a Crown IT8000 to power 4 sub cabs.So if you spend the money your still using a 150+ lbs cab. I only need two dual cabs. I'm ordering 4 MRX512M's and 2 XTi2000's for the main speakers. The MRX528S sounds pretty smooth, which is important. I don't want it to sound distorted or 'rough.' I need smooth lows, but not anything muddy or boomy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cmgunn Posted May 8, 2008 Author Members Share Posted May 8, 2008 The QW's say 1,600 watts continuous. Is that really their true RMS? If so, will they be ok on my XTi 4000 as long as it doesn't clip? (2 subs, stereo @ 1,200 watts/4ohms) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMS Author Craig Vecchione Posted May 8, 2008 CMS Author Share Posted May 8, 2008 I only need two dual cabs. I'm ordering 4 MRX512M's and 2 XTi2000's for the main speakers. The MRX528S sounds pretty smooth, which is important. I don't want it to sound distorted or 'rough.' I need smooth lows, but not anything muddy or boomy. Every sub you've mentioned is a good value for it's price. If the MRX sound good to you, then that's what you should buy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMS Author Craig Vecchione Posted May 8, 2008 CMS Author Share Posted May 8, 2008 The QW's say 1,600 watts continuous. Is that really their true RMS? If so, will they be ok on my XTi 4000 as long as it doesn't clip? (2 subs, stereo @ 1,200 watts/4ohms) You can even clip the amp on kick drum hits with no problem. Some prefer the 'edge' that this gives the kick sound. However I'd be careful with a 1600w continuous spec. 800w into a 4in voice coil. Hmmm. That doesn't mean you should put 3200w into them.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cmgunn Posted May 8, 2008 Author Members Share Posted May 8, 2008 You can even clip the amp on kick drum hits with no problem. Some prefer the 'edge' that this gives the kick sound.However I'd be careful with a 1600w continuous spec. 800w into a 4in voice coil. Hmmm. That doesn't mean you should put 3200w into them.... I'm not running it in bridge-mono, I'm running it in stereo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Axisplayer Posted May 8, 2008 Members Share Posted May 8, 2008 http://www.danleysoundlabs.com/tapped_horn.asp?MODEL=TH%20MINI You may not know the name but Danley is VERY respected for his designs. The linked sub is as small and good as gets within reason for less than concert applications. List is under $1300 each, street $ should be a bit better. You can put a pair of these in the back seat of your small car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cmgunn Posted May 8, 2008 Author Members Share Posted May 8, 2008 Every sub you've mentioned is a good value for it's price. If the MRX sound good to you, then that's what you should buy. I want to make sure I get something good. I'm probably going to A/B them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cmgunn Posted May 8, 2008 Author Members Share Posted May 8, 2008 http://www.danleysoundlabs.com/tapped_horn.asp?MODEL=TH%20MINIYou may not know the name but Danley is VERY respected for his designs. The linked sub is as small and good as gets within reason for less than concert applications. List is under $1300 each, street $ should be a bit better. You can put a pair of these in the back seat of your small car. I am familiar with Danley Sound Labs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMS Author Craig Vecchione Posted May 8, 2008 CMS Author Share Posted May 8, 2008 I'm not running it in bridge-mono, I'm running it in stereo. Understood; I wasn't mentioning amp specifics here....just what seems like a very optimistic spec on Peavey's part. Considering the zeal to dump 2x continuous ratings into speakers, I'm still surprised they spec it that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cmgunn Posted May 8, 2008 Author Members Share Posted May 8, 2008 Understood; I wasn't mentioning amp specifics here....just what seems like a very optimistic spec on Peavey's part. Considering the zeal to dump 2x continuous ratings into speakers, I'm still surprised they spec it that way. It does seem to be alot for that speaker. Since they are going to be powered the same way, I think I'll stick with the MRX. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cmgunn Posted May 8, 2008 Author Members Share Posted May 8, 2008 The VRX918 is the same thing as an SRX718 with the only difference being that the VRX has fly track and the SRX does not.I was speaking about the Vertec stuff and not the VRX stuff. VerTec is way too much for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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