Members blkmonday Posted January 27, 2011 Members Share Posted January 27, 2011 "made in china" is a problem for me too. im still going to give them a chance once i can a/b some against some jbl prx's....100 buck difference isnt so bad. of course thats 200 difference for the pair. all this speaker talk has my head spinning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members blkmonday Posted January 27, 2011 Members Share Posted January 27, 2011 musicians friend is showing a ship date of feb 23rd....my birthday is on the 24th. could this be a sign? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Visconti Posted January 27, 2011 Author Members Share Posted January 27, 2011 "made in china" is a problem for me too. im still going to give them a chance once i can a/b some against some jbl prx's....100 buck difference isnt so bad. of course thats 200 difference for the pair. all this speaker talk has my head spinning The EV 12's have less features and weigh about 9 pounds more per speaker. The JBL comparable sub has 100 less watts and costs $200 more than the EV sub. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members OneEng Posted January 27, 2011 Members Share Posted January 27, 2011 The EV 12's have less features and weigh about 9 pounds more per speaker.The JBL comparable sub has 100 less watts and costs $200 more than the EV sub. How do the EV's have less features? The only ones I noticed were in favor of the EV's (RCA input, 2 channels) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Visconti Posted January 27, 2011 Author Members Share Posted January 27, 2011 How do the EV's have less features? The only ones I noticed were in favor of the EV's (RCA input, 2 channels) That's true the EV's have the RCA's on the back and the JBL's don't. I don't think the EV's have an angle for the posts, no rigging points and they weigh more. That's about it and they are a great buy. I think the JBL's look better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMS Author Craig Vecchione Posted January 27, 2011 CMS Author Share Posted January 27, 2011 What if you found out parts of your favorite speaker CABS were Made in a foreign country?Would you sell them and search for a speaker built entirely in the USA? Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Visconti Posted January 27, 2011 Author Members Share Posted January 27, 2011 Why? I don't have an issue with where the EV's are made. I read somewhere they're made in China, but I'm not sure how much of the product is made there. Anyone know the break down where the EV's are made? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vinny D Posted January 27, 2011 Members Share Posted January 27, 2011 "made in china" is a problem for me too. im still going to give them a chance once i can a/b some against some jbl prx's....100 buck difference isnt so bad. of course thats 200 difference for the pair. all this speaker talk has my head spinning And *Made in Mexico* is not a problem?? That is were the JBL PRX series are made, so whats the difference? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members blkmonday Posted January 27, 2011 Members Share Posted January 27, 2011 had no idea the jbls are made in mexico. however its closer than china Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Visconti Posted January 27, 2011 Author Members Share Posted January 27, 2011 had no idea the jbls are made in mexico. however its closer than china There's an article on the internet that says Toyota make the most American cars from American parts of any car manufacture. Where things are made used to be a big issue for me, but I gave up because there are so many cool things I want that aren't made here. If I was to buy two 12 inch EV Live X cabs and two EV subs I would save $600 compared to the JBL PRX series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members twostone Posted January 27, 2011 Members Share Posted January 27, 2011 I don't have an issue with where the EV's are made.I read somewhere they're made in China, but I'm not sure how much of the product is made there.Anyone know the break down where the EV's are made? Got EV plant here st. of AR. but don't know which line they make there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rezrover Posted January 27, 2011 Members Share Posted January 27, 2011 Got EV plant here st. of AR. but don't know which line they make there. Minnesota, Nebraska.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMS Author Craig Vecchione Posted January 27, 2011 CMS Author Share Posted January 27, 2011 There's an article on the internet that says Toyota make the most American cars from American parts of any car manufacture.Where things are made used to be a big issue for me, but I gave up because there are so many cool things I want that aren't made here. If I was to buy two 12 inch EV Live X cabs and two EV subs I would save $600 compared to the JBL PRX series. Well, don't worry. If everyone continues to "give up", you won't have a job either, which renders which speaker to buy a moot point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Visconti Posted January 27, 2011 Author Members Share Posted January 27, 2011 Well, don't worry. If everyone continues to "give up", you won't have a job either, which renders which speaker to buy a moot point. For the EV's I don't care about the RCA's on the back for an MP3 player, but if I was to buy two 12's and two subs I would save the cost of one of the 12's compared to the JBL PRX's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rezrover Posted January 27, 2011 Members Share Posted January 27, 2011 So, if crude oil is shipped here and then refined, is it U.S. made with foreign material? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members samkokajko Posted January 28, 2011 Members Share Posted January 28, 2011 UPDATE: Well I got a chance to listen to the 3 powered speakers today in a meeting with the EV rep. I'm impressed. They aren't necessarily light but I had no issue easily carrying the 15 up the stairs into the shop and I'm a pretty little guy, it was definitely a one-handed job. 2The cabs are built well and feel solid (the rep did mention that hitting the price point means they couldn't put in the structure to make them flyable), the controls on the back are laid out well and have all the features I would ever want in a powered speaker realistically. Both inputs are mic or line level and there is a third volume knob that is essentially the "amp att. knob" so you have complete mix control of the two inputs. There is a switch to turn the built-in crossover on/off and a switch to give it a nice smiley face for playback situations. The 12 and 15 both have really nice high-end, very smooth. The sound is powerful but well balanced to it is firm without being too aggressive/loud. They sound really good. Without the sub neither of them really had any low end punch to them but at the same time it didn't feel like it was lacking anything. Basically if you need subs you need subs but if you are doing playback for an outdoor party, an acoustic gig, a stage monitor or using it in a rehearsal space there was plenty. Now the sub. It was pretty compact honestly. I think it was about the height of the K sub but more of a cube so you could actually put a speaker pole on it. This one only has a single input meant to take the loop through from your tops. I tried to find the max output but never did get the clip lights to hit on any of the speakers, tons of volume. The sub sounds awesome and really puts out a lot for such a small box, 4 of these would be a killer rig. It amused us a little bit when the sub started walking away on kick hits because it wasn't heavy enough to sit on the smooth concrete without a top placed on it. MAP for the 12 is $599 and for the 18 is $799 IIRC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Visconti Posted January 28, 2011 Author Members Share Posted January 28, 2011 samkokajko, thanks for the excellent review of the EV's. How do you think the Live X speakers stack up against the competition? What's better in the price range? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members twostone Posted January 28, 2011 Members Share Posted January 28, 2011 Good to know the subs thump since I have a pair coming to go with my EV 360's but then agian the EV 360's has made me a EV fan boy now so I really wasn't worried about ordering the EV subs without a test drive. Plus I have a few FB friends that siad the same thing about audtioning the new X line. Said they should make my Bosch stock go up in shares. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMS Author Craig Vecchione Posted January 28, 2011 CMS Author Share Posted January 28, 2011 For the EV's I don't care about the RCA's on the back for an MP3 player, but if I was to buy two 12's and two subs I would save the cost of one of the 12's compared to the JBL PRX's. And it's very likely you would get what you paid for. There are pretty considerable differences between these two speaker lines which justify each line's respective costs. Bi-amplification, DSP, system EQ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Visconti Posted January 28, 2011 Author Members Share Posted January 28, 2011 And it's very likely you would get what you paid for. There are pretty considerable differences between these two speaker lines which justify each line's respective costs. Bi-amplification, DSP, system EQ. Are you saying the JBL's have better components than the new EV's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members soul-x Posted January 28, 2011 Members Share Posted January 28, 2011 And it's very likely you would get what you paid for. There are pretty considerable differences between these two speaker lines which justify each line's respective costs. Bi-amplification, DSP, system EQ. Both boxes are biamped and eq'd. And I don't really see why whether the processing is dsp or analog is really of any consequence provided either sounds/performs well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMS Author Craig Vecchione Posted January 28, 2011 CMS Author Share Posted January 28, 2011 Are you saying the JBL's have better components than the new EV's? What part of what I wrote gave you that notion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMS Author Craig Vecchione Posted January 28, 2011 CMS Author Share Posted January 28, 2011 Both boxes are biamped and eq'd. And I don't really see why whether the processing is dsp or analog is really of any consequence provided either sounds/performs well. http://www.electrovoice.com/product.php?id=1066 That's not mentioned anywhere in the product description. Maybe they need better marketing people? I didn't say that DSP is better than analog. I don't see any mention of the functions that are usually handled by DSP in a powered box. Is there dynamic limiting, selectable EQ (for FOH vs. monitor use), component optimization? I don't see anything mentioned about this. We can also look at the 2dB higher output, the 7lb lighter weight despite the EV having a thinner (18ga) grille than the JBL (16ga) and thinner plywood construction, or that the JBL has M10 and M8 flypoints. Could be the EV sounds better than any speaker ever made. Won't know until it's available for me to hear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members soul-x Posted January 28, 2011 Members Share Posted January 28, 2011 http://www.electrovoice.com/product.php?id=1066That's not mentioned anywhere in the product description. Maybe they need better marketing people? It's in the product documentation. 24 db/octave on the crossover. And it's one of those powered speakers that has a pushbutton selection "feature" for a couple of eq curves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members soul-x Posted January 28, 2011 Members Share Posted January 28, 2011 From what we've seen historically from both JBL and EV, I think it's pretty safe to assume both products will be placed to compete well with each other in the marketplace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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