Members Shamdog Posted March 20, 2011 Members Share Posted March 20, 2011 What's the next step up from the Yamaha Club Series speakers in terms of sound quality/value-per-dollar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Coaster Posted March 20, 2011 Members Share Posted March 20, 2011 how much do you want to spend? i'd say the next steo up from yamaha club is yamaha club biamped with dsp, or MRX stuff. other stuff is good too, depends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Shamdog Posted March 20, 2011 Author Members Share Posted March 20, 2011 how much do you want to spend?i'd say the next steo up from yamaha club is yamaha club biamped with dsp, or MRX stuff. other stuff is good too, depends. That's kind of my question. What's the next bump in price level that's worth it - sound quality wise. I bought used Clube Series V 15's for $325. I'd say my next price point would be in the $500-$700 range. I'd rather spend $700 for a big step up than $500 for just a little better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Coaster Posted March 20, 2011 Members Share Posted March 20, 2011 i dont think its worth trying to get better than clubs for $500 - 700. a pair of MRX will set you back $1200+ i really think the next bracket up from clubs is over $1k/pair you might be better off spending your $500 to 700 somewhere else in your chain? what is it you dont like about the clubs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members abzurd Posted March 20, 2011 Members Share Posted March 20, 2011 Well, you got your Clubs 1/2 off new. Are you talking $500 - $700 total or per box? $700 is a pair of new Clubs. You may be able to score some higher end used passive speakers like the JBL MRX but you'll have to actively look and be very patient. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members OneEng Posted March 20, 2011 Members Share Posted March 20, 2011 I would reiterate the call for 1K. At that price point you could get a pair of RCF312a's which would be a huge step up from the Clubs, and they are powered so you could sell an amp to make up the difference in price from your original range of $500-700 and could make your setup a little lighter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vinny D Posted March 20, 2011 Members Share Posted March 20, 2011 Makes no sense to go from a club series box to a MRX/PRX series box, the performance upgrade (if any) would be minimal at best.When properly powered and EQ'd the club series is a great bang for the buck solution, so as someone else mentioned check what else is in your signal chain that may better the performance of what you have.I am with the others that say you need to be in the $1k + per box range for any real performance upgrade that would be worth while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DaBender Posted March 20, 2011 Members Share Posted March 20, 2011 Interesting thread. I've been contemplating the same thing myself, upgrading from 112 Club IVs. One thing that has caught my eye lately is "open box" deals on brand new EV SX-300s on ebay for $419 apiece. Since the regular price of the EVs is nearly twice that of the Clubs, the "get what you pay for" mantra would suggest there ought to be a noticeable difference. They would seem to safely handle more power, a benefit for our outdoor gigs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jlb Posted March 20, 2011 Members Share Posted March 20, 2011 I own the 15" clubs, 15" MRX's and 15"SRX. IMO, there is a bigger performance gap from the Clubs to the MRX than the MRX to the SRX. The MRX line is a great sounding, light weight, and affordable box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tlbonehead Posted March 20, 2011 Members Share Posted March 20, 2011 Makes no sense to go from a club series box to a MRX/PRX series box, the performance upgrade (if any) would be minimal at best.When properly powered and EQ'd the club series is a great bang for the buck solution, so as someone else mentioned check what else is in your signal chain that may better the performance of what you have.I am with the others that say you need to be in the $1k + per box range for any real performance upgrade that would be worth while.I disagree. That should be a pretty noticeable upgrade, in addition to have a much better quality box as well as a little less weight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tlbonehead Posted March 20, 2011 Members Share Posted March 20, 2011 I own the 15" clubs, 15" MRX's and 15"SRX. IMO, there is a bigger performance gap from the Clubs to the MRX than the MRX to the SRX.The MRX line is a great sounding, light weight, and affordable box.exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members OneEng Posted March 20, 2011 Members Share Posted March 20, 2011 Makes no sense to go from a club series box to a MRX/PRX series box, the performance upgrade (if any) would be minimal at best. When properly powered and EQ'd the club series is a great bang for the buck solution, so as someone else mentioned check what else is in your signal chain that may better the performance of what you have. I am with the others that say you need to be in the $1k + per box range for any real performance upgrade that would be worth while. Sorry, have to put in another disagreement here The MRX's are quite noticeably better than the clubs IMHO. The SRX's are better yet, but in an entirely different market price range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jlb Posted March 20, 2011 Members Share Posted March 20, 2011 The MRX to my ears sounds better than the SRX when running full range/flat eq. When the SRX is bi amped the sound is noticeably better than the MRX. I have always wondered what the MRX would sound like biamped. Does anyone know why they didn't consider this when designing the cabinet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bugzie Posted March 20, 2011 Members Share Posted March 20, 2011 I own the 15" clubs, 15" MRX's and 15"SRX. IMO, there is a bigger performance gap from the Clubs to the MRX than the MRX to the SRX.The MRX line is a great sounding, light weight, and affordable box. I couldn't agree more! I went from clubs to the MRX's and wish I'd have done it in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Harmonycat Posted March 20, 2011 Members Share Posted March 20, 2011 I own the 15" clubs, 15" MRX's and 15"SRX. IMO, there is a bigger performance gap from the Clubs to the MRX than the MRX to the SRX.The MRX line is a great sounding, light weight, and affordable box. I agree. Furthermore the Yamaha clubs are decent if not somewhat bland and sterile sounding. I had an occasion back when I got my EV Force monitors to compare them to Yamaha Club 12" boxes. The EV box was smoother and more pleasant to listen to than the Yamahas. That applied to them both used as monitors. When used over subs and crossed at 120Hz, the EV Force Monitors were quite a bit better. I still have four of the Force Monitors, and now have four MR512ms. Over subs the MRX512ms are significantly better than the EVs. In FOH use without subs or in monitor duty, the MRXs are just in a different league. I cannot agree with any statement regarding the MRXs being insignificantly better. They are MUCH more articulate throughout the frequency range, and do not exhibit any harshness in the higher end when EQed about -3db in the 4-6.5 Khz range. There is also a significant upgrade in going from a 60.5 lb Yamaha Club S115V made of Paricleboard and an MRX515 at 43lbs. In the end you are comparing an decent quality entry level speaker to a speaker in a different class. As far as price goes you can find pairs of mint condition used MRX515s and MRX512ms for less than $800 per pair. I paid $1200 for four MRX512ms and I just love them for small-medium shows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DaBender Posted March 20, 2011 Members Share Posted March 20, 2011 How many watts are you feeding those 512ms? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members agedhorse Posted March 20, 2011 Members Share Posted March 20, 2011 PRX-612 or 615 will be a significant step up IMO, the proper DSP programming and biamping with correct parameters is a significant improvement in both performance and weight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vinny D Posted March 20, 2011 Members Share Posted March 20, 2011 This is why these topics are always a personal preference type of answer.I for one have never liked the sound of any MRX/PRX box I have heard to date, and there are a lot of them floating around this neck of the woods.If you are looking at an upgrade in the weight of the cabinet, then sure the MRX/PRX is an upgrade, but as for as sound quality....hardly worth the money.The OP was asking for an upgrade, for me that means that someone wants a BIG improvement over what they currently have.Get into the range of a JBL SRX712/715, a Peavey QW2, EV QRX112/115 now where talking a noticeable upgrade IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members agedhorse Posted March 20, 2011 Members Share Posted March 20, 2011 IMO, the PRX-600 series IS a big improvement over the Clubs. The SRX-700 series are a huge upgrade. There are proportional differences in cost as well (factoring in power of course) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tlbonehead Posted March 20, 2011 Members Share Posted March 20, 2011 This is why these topics are always a personal preference type of answer.I for one have never liked the sound of any MRX/PRX box I have heard to date, and there are a lot of them floating around this neck of the woods.If you are looking at an upgrade in the weight of the cabinet, then sure the MRX/PRX is an upgrade, but as for as sound quality....hardly worth the money.The OP was asking for an upgrade, for me that means that someone wants a BIG improvement over what they currently have.Get into the range of a JBL SRX712/715, a Peavey QW2, EV QRX112/115 now where talking a noticeable upgrade IMO.Once again, I disagree. An MRX sounds noticeably better than a Club, in addition to the other benefits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dennis a Posted March 20, 2011 Members Share Posted March 20, 2011 If the next substantial jump in speaker quality is not in Shamdog's budget, perhaps Coaster's suggestion of a DSP should be considered. Maybe a pro could be hired to do the initial set up. If new speakers were eventually added to the system, the DSP could still be used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Coaster Posted March 20, 2011 Members Share Posted March 20, 2011 oh i dont know if i suggest a dsp, just saying thats a step up. it took months to get myself/my clubs to a level i was comfortable with, and i tell you what the pa "disappeared" when i ran it last weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dennis a Posted March 20, 2011 Members Share Posted March 20, 2011 You probably already posted this before but did you biamp your clubs and if so, are the cabinets biampable or did you have to mod? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Coaster Posted March 21, 2011 Members Share Posted March 21, 2011 we probably shouldnt derail this thread too bad, but yes i am running three way stereo with custom cabs. totally modded but the biamp mod isnt hard at all, maybe 20 minutes per speaker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dennis a Posted March 21, 2011 Members Share Posted March 21, 2011 I don't feel this is hijacking the thread because it is a valid alternative to replacing speakers as an upgrade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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