Members Coaster Posted November 29, 2011 Members Share Posted November 29, 2011 i have two altecs from 1978 in use as well as a sun cab from ???? likely before i was born Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RoadRanger Posted November 30, 2011 Members Share Posted November 30, 2011 How did you come up with that figure? Whether it's 200 watts or 20,000 watts they still get accidently unplugged and can short out.Doesn't seem to bother good amps. More of a problem than the "accidentally" is that folks don't know to plug in the speaker end first, then the amp end - and to unplug the amp end first. I guess that's a bit counter-intuitive? I see that happen when someone wants to move a monitor or start to tear down without powering the amps off first.. In any case 1/4" work fine for lower power levels and there is no practical advantage to changing your whole monitor system over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RoadRanger Posted November 30, 2011 Members Share Posted November 30, 2011 Nope. On those old Peavey's it controls the level of the entire box. Actually, I think Peavey still makes some like that.Those controls were the only weak spot on those boxes assuming you didn't overpower them. The Piezos back then were all Motorola and way superior to the Chinese knockoffs you mostly see now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Coaster Posted November 30, 2011 Members Share Posted November 30, 2011 we have a couple of those peaveys in our practice setup and they sound surprisingly good. if i didnt know they had two piezos in them i would think they were not piezos by the sound quality. they dont sound like piezos, at least no what i think of them.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members agedhorse Posted November 30, 2011 Members Share Posted November 30, 2011 Doesn't seem to bother good amps. More of a problem than the "accidentally" is that folks don't know to plug in the speaker end first, then the amp end - and to unplug the amp end first. I guess that's a bit counter-intuitive? I see that happen when someone wants to move a monitor or start to tear down without powering the amps off first.. In any case 1/4" work fine for lower power levels and there is no practical advantage to changing your whole monitor system over. Some newer amps have pretty good protection but this exposes the vast majority of power amps to an un-necessary AND very real risk of increased failure. It does happen and pretty frequently IME. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members agedhorse Posted November 30, 2011 Members Share Posted November 30, 2011 Those controls were the only weak spot on those boxes assuming you didn't overpower them. The Piezos back then were all Motorola and way superior to the Chinese knockoffs you mostly see now. If you don't mind their midrangy and kind of honky sound quality IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sibyrnes Posted November 30, 2011 Members Share Posted November 30, 2011 Doesn't seem to bother good amps. More of a problem than the "accidentally" is that folks don't know to plug in the speaker end first, then the amp end - and to unplug the amp end first. I guess that's a bit counter-intuitive? I see that happen when someone wants to move a monitor or start to tear down without powering the amps off first.. In any case 1/4" work fine for lower power levels and there is no practical advantage to changing your whole monitor system over. You have just explained a very good reason to change! I find it strange that you would bother to defend something as out dated, unreliable and inferior as the 1/4" speaker jack! Do you also prefer trs plugs over XLR's? Switching to Speakons is one of the least expensive pro upgrades you can make to your system. When I see 1/4" plugs, I think "rookie". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RoadRanger Posted December 1, 2011 Members Share Posted December 1, 2011 If you don't mind their midrangy and kind of honky sound quality IMO.Back 30 years ago when I was using Motorola piezos I'd have described JBL compression drivers that way LOL . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RoadRanger Posted December 1, 2011 Members Share Posted December 1, 2011 When I see 1/4" plugs, I think "rookie".IMO if you care about the gear snobs that is a great reason to upgrade. If you are running stoopid high power to your monitors (or they are biamp'd) that's another. Personally I've never had a problem with decent 1/4" stuff. But then I predate SpeakOn so became comfortable with 1/4" by necessity LOL . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RoadRanger Posted December 1, 2011 Members Share Posted December 1, 2011 Some newer amps have pretty good protection but this exposes the vast majority of power amps to an un-necessary AND very real risk of increased failure. It does happen and pretty frequently IME.I don't remember any of them Peavey "CS" amps thirty years ago being bothered by it . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sibyrnes Posted December 1, 2011 Members Share Posted December 1, 2011 IMO if you care about the gear snobs that is a great reason to upgrade. If you are running stoopid high power to your monitors (or they are biamp'd) that's another. Personally I've never had a problem with decent 1/4" stuff. But then I predate SpeakOn so became comfortable with 1/4" by necessity LOL . That's cool, and I understand where you are coming from. I'm not so sure about that term "gear snobs". If you don't think you are being judged(rightly or wrongly) by what your equipment looks like, you are mistaken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RoadRanger Posted December 1, 2011 Members Share Posted December 1, 2011 If you don't think you are being judged(rightly or wrongly) by what your equipment looks like, you are mistaken.Sho' 'nuff . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members agedhorse Posted December 1, 2011 Members Share Posted December 1, 2011 I don't remember any of them Peavey "CS" amps thirty years ago being bothered by it . Some indeed were. They were also pretty overbuilt in order to handle this sort of thing, and pretty slow overcompensated designs which was a good thing given the market they were being sold to. People who did stupid things routinely because they didn't know better or didn't care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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