Members Marko Posted January 14, 2012 Members Share Posted January 14, 2012 assuming a full PA (subs/tops) and signal to the board. Relatively new to the stage, I've been putting my rig to my side facing across stage with slight variances according to the situation. It was mentioned to me that this is not proper, and it should it be behind me. We're talking small bars, here. I don't want to ask musicians about this, I want a sound guy's perspective. What's normal, as in what you see other bands do, and more-importantly to me, what are your thoughts? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members lifeloverwg Posted January 14, 2012 Members Share Posted January 14, 2012 Is your rig carrying the house sound or are you in the PA as well? My wife cross fires her rig so the other players can hear it well without it being too loud, but she's pretty much always in the PA too. If your rig has to carry the house, the rest of the band probably doesn't want it pointed at them and some parts of the crowd will likely miss out on the higher frequencies which carry a lot of the subtleties like attack and string noise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Marko Posted January 14, 2012 Author Members Share Posted January 14, 2012 DI from my amp to the board, full PA, my rig is stage monitor. To explain the actual situation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MJastrzebski Posted January 15, 2012 Members Share Posted January 15, 2012 As a sound man, I prefer the amps on stage on the side of the stage facing in. Keep the stage sound on stage as much as possible. Sometimes an amp will sound quiet on stage but be loud at a further distance. If that amp faces the crowd you can throw off the house mix. All this being said, sometimes it's not practical to put the amp on the side of the stage. In that case a bit of an angle is all you can do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members agedhorse Posted January 15, 2012 Members Share Posted January 15, 2012 Either way can work just fine. So, it depends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members gonzobassman Posted January 15, 2012 Members Share Posted January 15, 2012 Running a DI in smaller venues you can just run the bass direct,and kick it back through the monitors to taste.Doing this eliminates the need for a bass rig.I've done this with success in a lot of situations,and it helps keep the stage volume down as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mutha Goose Posted January 15, 2012 Members Share Posted January 15, 2012 From th SE perspective, cross-firing your amp is no problem and can even be beneficial (as stated above). But you may get push back from other musician that think this is wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members WynnD Posted January 15, 2012 Members Share Posted January 15, 2012 Is your rig carrying the house sound or are you in the PA as well? My wife cross fires her rig so the other players can hear it well without it being too loud, but she's pretty much always in the PA too. If your rig has to carry the house, the rest of the band probably doesn't want it pointed at them and some parts of the crowd will likely miss out on the higher frequencies which carry a lot of the subtleties like attack and string noise. As the person with the best bass hearing, I can always hear the bass. Our bassist is completely on the opposite side of the stage from me. I never have problems hearing him or any other bassist. And in every instant, I could use less bass. (Band's stage volume is about 107 dbc. Louder than I like, but not carried away.) You won't have me voting to aim the bass cabinet towards me. I never need more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMS Author Craig Vecchione Posted January 15, 2012 CMS Author Share Posted January 15, 2012 assuming a full PA (subs/tops) and signal to the board. Relatively new to the stage, I've been putting my rig to my side facing across stage with slight variances according to the situation. It was mentioned to me that this is not proper, and it should it be behind me. We're talking small bars, here. I don't want to ask musicians about this, I want a sound guy's perspective. What's normal, as in what you see other bands do, and more-importantly to me, what are your thoughts? Thanks. The lower ranges of bass get increasingly non-directional, so it won't matter where you point the rig as much as it would for a guitar speaker cabinet. As a bassist I've found I prefer the rig a bit further from me than standing on top of it, as it's easier to hear my tone and adjust (but it's much better to be in the audience for this). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vinny D Posted January 15, 2012 Members Share Posted January 15, 2012 Makes no difference to me where anyone puts anything on stage, the only thing that matters to me is how loud the stage volume is.The louder the stage volume....the louder the PA is to make an even mix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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