Members GilmourD Posted January 16, 2015 Members Share Posted January 16, 2015 I've been beating the snot out of my Bugera 1960 Infinium. I've run it full bore, every control dimed, into a Jet City Jettenuator and it doesn't even sweat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members wankdeplank Posted January 16, 2015 Author Members Share Posted January 16, 2015 Wow, I had no idea that across the board, Chinese made amps had such a good track record. Grats for the input fellas, I hear that VHT calling my name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Virgman Posted January 16, 2015 Members Share Posted January 16, 2015 Wow, I had no idea that across the board, Chinese made amps had such a good track record. Grats for the input fellas, I hear that VHT calling my name. Why shouldn't something made in China be good? Apple makes all their stuff in China. TVs, computers, etc. are all made in China. 90% of auto parts in cars are made in China. The US military gets parts from China. China makes all kinds of high tech products including fighter aircraft, missiles and space vehicles. Do you actually believe they cannot make something as simple as a guitar amplifier or an electric guitar? The catch is you have to buy quality if you want quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members wankdeplank Posted January 17, 2015 Author Members Share Posted January 17, 2015 You're right of course, Virg, but is that all musical instruments are - just consumer goods? We know that China is great at turning out product at a good price, but that consumer line approach often has ramifications for musical instruments IMO. I mean the old line luthiers and amp makers were all about matching woods and other components for tonal reasons. I guess for me, I associate China made amps with PCB boards and when there's a problem (as there tends to be with mass-produced product), it's just a whole lot more difficult to fix. I guess that's why I like the idea of these handwired Special 6 amps even though they are assembly line produced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Virgman Posted January 17, 2015 Members Share Posted January 17, 2015 You're right of course, Virg, but is that all musical instruments are - just consumer goods? We know that China is great at turning out product at a good price, but that consumer line approach often has ramifications for musical instruments IMO. I mean the old line luthiers and amp makers were all about matching woods and other components for tonal reasons. I guess for me, I associate China made amps with PCP boards and when there's a problem (as there tends to be with mass-produced product), it's just a whole lot more difficult to fix. I guess that's why I like the idea of these handwired Special 6 amps even though they are assembly line produced. What old-time luthiers? Leo Fender? Leo Fender wasn't a luthier. He made mass produced, low cost cookie cutter guitars for the masses. He used auto paint, cheaply avaiable wood, modular parts, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Grant Harding Posted January 17, 2015 Members Share Posted January 17, 2015 Just to add something to the mix - PCB done properly is the best way to build an amp. Bogner is probably the best example - they use their vast experience to design them and use aircraft grade techniques to make their amps possibly the most robust AND the most consistent. You can get the manufacturing done to spec, but there's no substitution for incredible design. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members wankdeplank Posted January 18, 2015 Author Members Share Posted January 18, 2015 Key words there "properly done". The average PCB board just doesn't survive the test of time like good old point to point wiring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members wankdeplank Posted January 18, 2015 Author Members Share Posted January 18, 2015 I guess you could say that Leo Fender was the Henry Ford of the guitar industry, but I think some people wrongly assume that he used cost cutting measures that compromised the quality of his product. I've read that he spent a lot of time talking to professional guitar players about just what they were after. He also hired a good many very capable engineers, luthiers and guitar players to help him realize his design goals with the best possible results. You won't find any old Fenders made by Leo with improperly cured woods, pot metal parts or dirt cheap electronic components. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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