Members twostone Posted January 7, 2013 Members Share Posted January 7, 2013 Another vote for QSC amp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members guitarman3001 Posted January 8, 2013 Author Members Share Posted January 8, 2013 Originally Posted by twostone Another vote for QSC amp Even if it's a refurb? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members agedhorse Posted January 8, 2013 Members Share Posted January 8, 2013 Originally Posted by guitarman3001 Even if it's a refurb? Sure, if it carries their full warranty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members guitarman3001 Posted January 8, 2013 Author Members Share Posted January 8, 2013 Originally Posted by agedhorse Sure, if it carries their full warranty. Per the seller, it's a company that sells them on ebay, he says the refurbs come with a 90 day warranty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members nchangin Posted January 8, 2013 Members Share Posted January 8, 2013 At lease with Guitar center (if you went used) you would have a 1 year ext warranty for a minimal cost. 90 days.... ouch. May I ask what kinda price your getting on the refurb? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members agedhorse Posted January 8, 2013 Members Share Posted January 8, 2013 Originally Posted by guitarman3001 Per the seller, it's a company that sells them on ebay, he says the refurbs come with a 90 day warranty. Suspicous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members guitarman3001 Posted January 8, 2013 Author Members Share Posted January 8, 2013 Originally Posted by nchangin At lease with Guitar center (if you went used) you would have a 1 year ext warranty for a minimal cost. 90 days.... ouch. May I ask what kinda price your getting on the refurb? $400, give or take. The seller is legit. ProAudioStar. They sell a ton of them refurbished on ebay and have a brick and mortar store in Brooklyn. Out of approx 85,000 ratings on ebay, they have a 99.5% positive. I've also emailed them a few questions and they replied literally within minutes. I have no worries about the seller, just about the 90 day warranty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members nchangin Posted January 8, 2013 Members Share Posted January 8, 2013 400 about the going rate on those at GC too. (for used) if you get the first 4 digits of the serial number that tells you the month and year manufactured just to get an idea how old they are too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members guitarman3001 Posted January 8, 2013 Author Members Share Posted January 8, 2013 Originally Posted by nchangin 400 about the going rate on those at GC too. (for used) if you get the first 4 digits of the serial number that tells you the month and year manufactured just to get an idea how old they are too Not worth buying it used at GC. I found one for $399......but....... they want to charge me $60 shipping, plus 7.5% tax, plus $40 for the 1 yr warranty. When all is said and done, it's roughly $520. I can get a brand new one for less than that if I'm patient and wait for a 20% coupon from MF or M123. Basically my choices right now are a refurb QSC GX7 or a new Crown XLS2500, or wait for a 20% coupon and then I'd have a choice of either one brand new for roughly $475. Although there's never any guarantee with those coupons so as it stands right now, if I were to buy today, it's either the refurb GX7 for $400 or the new Crown XLS2500 for $475. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members nchangin Posted January 8, 2013 Members Share Posted January 8, 2013 I'm probably going to get shot at with internet rocket launchers and other weapons of mass destruction but I found this, only saying it cause I know you on low low budget, but seem to hear positive results from what I've read on forums (take it with a grain of salt) ep 4000 275.00 free shipping Expected to ship 2/25/13 ---?? something sounds fishy with this deal thoughhttp://www.musiciansfriend.com/pro-a...ower-power-amp but then I found this: http://www.guitarcenter.com/Behringe...06-i1448739.gc same price. free shipping. New = less stress Behringer = B word Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members VanHalen Posted January 9, 2013 Members Share Posted January 9, 2013 Nobody has even compared the wattage of these two amps yet. QSC GX7 Power Rating: 8? / both channels driven / 725W 8? / single channel driven / 800W 4? / both channels driven / 1,000W 4? / single channel driven / 1,200W Crown XLS2500 Power Rating: 8? / both channels driven / 440W 8? / single channel driven / 1,550W 4? / both channels driven / 775W 4? / single channel driven / 2,400 I think either amp would be fine. It all depends on what you need power-wise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members guitarman3001 Posted January 9, 2013 Author Members Share Posted January 9, 2013 Originally Posted by nchangin I'm probably going to get shot at with internet rocket launchers and other weapons of mass destruction but I found this, only saying it cause I know you on low low budget, but seem to hear positive results from what I've read on forums (take it with a grain of salt)ep 4000 275.00 free shippingExpected to ship 2/25/13 ---?? something sounds fishy with this deal thoughhttp://www.musiciansfriend.com/pro-a...ower-power-ampbut then I found this: http://www.guitarcenter.com/Behringe...06-i1448739.gcsame price. free shipping. New = less stressBehringer = B word I have nothing against Behringer. As a matter of fact, I like a lot of their products. Our current mixer is a Behringer and so far it has been excellent. The only problem with the amps you mentioned is weight. I really want something lightweight. I thought about the Behringer inuke line but after looking at the actual continuous power output vs their advertised output, they put out quite a bit less power than the marketing specs claim. The QSC and Crown are rated accurately so I'd rather go with those. Not to mention they have more input/output connector options and that's a big plus for what I need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members nchangin Posted January 9, 2013 Members Share Posted January 9, 2013 Sounds like your mind is made up! Of the two QSC would be my vote. I had XTI 4000 @ 1200 watts per channel "real" watts as you say and it sounded ok on some 4 ohm boxes. Once I swapped to a 500 watt per channel class h amp the speakers sound mucho better to my ears. Sometimes I question these class D amps and their specs if they are real compared to other topologies (i.e., class H) after my experience, which isn't a lot of data to determine an accurate conclusion, nonetheless very interested to hear others opinions and facts on that subject. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members agedhorse Posted January 9, 2013 Members Share Posted January 9, 2013 Originally Posted by nchangin Sounds like your mind is made up! Of the two QSC would be my vote. I had XTI 4000 @ 1200 watts per channel "real" watts as you say and it sounded ok on some 4 ohm boxes. Once I swapped to a 500 watt per channel class h amp the speakers sound mucho better to my ears. Sometimes I question these class D amps and their specs if they are real compared to other topologies (i.e., class H) after my experience, which isn't a lot of data to determine an accurate conclusion, nonetheless very interested to hear others opinions and facts on that subject. Virtually every big pro touring amp these days is class d, your experience is indeed very limited. Pro grade products are more substantial compared with mi grade products regardless of output class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members guitarman3001 Posted January 9, 2013 Author Members Share Posted January 9, 2013 What's the difference between class H and class D? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RoadRanger Posted January 9, 2013 Members Share Posted January 9, 2013 Originally Posted by nchangin Sounds like your mind is made up! Of the two QSC would be my vote. I had XTI 4000 @ 1200 watts per channel "real" watts as you say and it sounded ok on some 4 ohm boxes. Once I swapped to a 500 watt per channel class h amp the speakers sound mucho better to my ears. Sometimes I question these class D amps and their specs if they are real compared to other topologies (i.e., class H) after my experience, which isn't a lot of data to determine an accurate conclusion, nonetheless very interested to hear others opinions and facts on that subject. XTI4000 is NOT class D, only the XTI6000 in that family is. And from experience the 6000 kicks serious arse on subs . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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