Members dxdreamer Posted June 1, 2006 Members Share Posted June 1, 2006 i'm looking for a hardware DX synth but donno which one would be wat i'm looking i have only used software DX synths, FM7 is cool, and find as background and in busy mixes, but in a less busy mix it's just too thin and i have not yet seem any other software DX sound fat yet, other than DX samples so... now i comes down to TG77 - with 2 effects, and some older samples, 128 user bank or DX200 - with 1 effects, loaded with 256 agressive sounding patches, and 128 user , free EG!! maybe the sy99 would be the best but it's too big.. FS1r... their price is rising too much, and hrd to find... and new yamaha workstation should be out inclouding its FM? so i wonder have anyone compare them with same dx patch loaded? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members packrat Posted June 1, 2006 Members Share Posted June 1, 2006 You're not going to be buying one because it has a better sound with the same DX patch loaded. The differences primarly come about because of the different options for FM synthsis available. The classic DX7 (and the DX200) have sine-only 6 op FM, whereas several are 4-op (DX100, DX9). Some (FS1R) have 8-op. Some, like the SY have 6-op with more feedback loops and a variety of non-sine waveforms. So, comparing patches that'll run on everything is going to miss the interesting differences. B> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members elsongs Posted June 1, 2006 Members Share Posted June 1, 2006 The original DX7 has a strange but hardly noticeable envelope glitch. YOu'll never notice it on a DX7 but when you load certain DX7 sounds into a DX7II or an FM7 plugin, it'll sound a little different, and I'm not talking about the sound quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SlickHenry Posted June 1, 2006 Members Share Posted June 1, 2006 I love my DX-100. Its light on just about everything (filters, effects, a good envelope). But it makes good sounds if you are willing to work with it and its pretty simple for the most part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Analog Kid Posted June 1, 2006 Members Share Posted June 1, 2006 SY-77 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Awake77 Posted June 1, 2006 Members Share Posted June 1, 2006 Casio PD synths seem to be a good alternative to the Yamaha DX line. If you already have FM7 you might want to give the CZ or VZ series a look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members kooki_sf Posted June 1, 2006 Members Share Posted June 1, 2006 the dx-200 is great! knobs are good! it also has unison. And with with external midi, a control on unison detune. it REALLY cuts through. a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Don Solaris Posted June 1, 2006 Members Share Posted June 1, 2006 Originally posted by dxdreamer i'm looking for a hardware DX synth but donno which one would be wat i'm looking Let's see. You can choose from following Yamaha FM synths 6 OP: DX-1, DX-5, DX-7, DX-7IID, DX-200, SY-77, SY-99, TX-802 4 OP: DX-9, DX-27, DX-100, DX-21, TX-81Z, DX-11, YS-100, YS-200, V-50 2 OP: SY-22, TG-33, SY-35 If you want to learn FM programming go with 4 OP synth. Make sure the synth you buy has the editor! I recently bought YS-200, and there is Atari editor, which i run on Atari emulator on PC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members zoink Posted June 1, 2006 Members Share Posted June 1, 2006 The FS1R is worth the extra expense. One of the most inspiring synths to come out in years. Really unique and deep architecture -- an FM synth on steroids, and then some. Do yourself a favor, though, and get Soundiver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Khazul Posted June 1, 2006 Members Share Posted June 1, 2006 Or as your such a Motif ES fan - maybe the DX7mk2 plugin card for it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dxdreamer Posted June 1, 2006 Author Members Share Posted June 1, 2006 huh...thankz for the replies i'm not interested in anything less than 6op and without effects. basic 6op yamaha FM is cool, but i'm concering the sound of the converter, thats why i ask if anyone have compared the units~ might get a DX200 which is the same plugin board for CS/S/motif series..but maybe no... ,not enough space for another tabletop... maybe i really have to go for fs1r for more usability:freak: but i think maybe a Vsynth first Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members depulse Posted June 1, 2006 Members Share Posted June 1, 2006 Get a TG-77 or a SY99. DX-synthesis in it's prime and lots of possibilities for many hybrid DX/PCM/whatever type of sounds. These can be delicate and sweet or really hardsounding and metallic and everything in between. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Meatball Fulton Posted June 1, 2006 Members Share Posted June 1, 2006 Originally posted by Don Solaris 4 OP: DX-9, DX-27, DX-100, DX-200, DX-21, TX-81Z, DX-11, YS-100, YS-200, V-50 DX-200 is 6-op. There's a full 16-voice DX7 inside the box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Don Solaris Posted June 1, 2006 Members Share Posted June 1, 2006 ... i dunno why i added it to 4 op. Post corrected now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DGS1234567 Posted June 1, 2006 Members Share Posted June 1, 2006 I say buy the DX-1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members wetwareinterface Posted June 1, 2006 Members Share Posted June 1, 2006 the dx200 is basically fm 7 in a tabletop box with drums added.no point in getting it if you already have fm7. however the tg-77 is a full digital subtractive synth married to a full 6 op fm synth. you can use the two in any combination you like simply by setting the fm algo to several carriers in parrallel and assigning those to waveforms like saw or piano etc... and the remainder of the algo set up as a 4 or 3 or 5 op fm synth. you then get a lone sample waveform playing alongside the fm synth or several waveforms playing at up to a 6 osc parrallel structure whatever you want. also the tg is a full blown synth beyond the fm or awm osc level. you can use any of the onboard pcm samples in the fm patches and also use em as straight ahead waveforms like you would in a roland jv1080 or other pcm subtractive synth and ignore fm entirely it's up to you. it has filters and lfos and envelopes etc.. plus the fm side on top of it all that can use any waveform inside the thing. no preset algo's either you can create your own algos to suit your needs. plus it has a sequencer and effects. the next best option is the fs1r. 8 op fm and a formant filter which is basically a mutatable filter that you can set the levels of each formant to create different res peaks and filter profiles. very nerdy synth and a degree in sound engineering is a handy thing to have with this thing. but it is definately one of the most complex digital synths ever made alongside the kawai k5000s and the v-synth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BillyWa Posted June 1, 2006 Members Share Posted June 1, 2006 DXDreamer, forgive my ignorance, but who is that pictured in your avatar? It's really freaking me out, kinda like Willy Wonka meets A Clockwork Orange. Reminds me, I always wished Stanely Kubrik would have tackled Alice in Wonderland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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