Members zhivago Posted March 16, 2006 Members Share Posted March 16, 2006 ....but I don't wanna buy loads of it...I just need a bit for this small head I'm working on....does anyone know where I can get a small container...or maybe even an equivalent that will work just as well? could I even possibly buy some from someone that has a big container of it? many thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vince Posted March 16, 2006 Members Share Posted March 16, 2006 I got some from toolstation when I refinished my Marshall. Just use any contact glue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members zhivago Posted March 16, 2006 Author Members Share Posted March 16, 2006 so just go to the hardware store or something and get some? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dot-dot-dot Posted March 16, 2006 Members Share Posted March 16, 2006 Yup. Bostik should do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vince Posted March 16, 2006 Members Share Posted March 16, 2006 yup! 1 litre may be the smallest you can get, but it will cost not very much! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members zhivago Posted March 16, 2006 Author Members Share Posted March 16, 2006 sounds cool...so I get it from B&Q or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dZjupp Posted March 16, 2006 Members Share Posted March 16, 2006 save your money- Elmers Wood Glue, its what i've always used for applying tolex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members zhivago Posted March 16, 2006 Author Members Share Posted March 16, 2006 would I be able to find this in England? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members covertmusic724 Posted March 16, 2006 Members Share Posted March 16, 2006 on a related note: where's the best place to get tolex? probably just basic black to redo a much "loved" marshall 4x12 cab and, is it easy to do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members I Am Chris Posted March 16, 2006 Members Share Posted March 16, 2006 Originally posted by covertmusic724 on a related note: where's the best place to get tolex? probably just basic black to redo a much "loved" marshall 4x12 caband, is it easy to do? http://www.vibroworld.com/parts/tech11.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members The Great Waldo Pepper Posted March 16, 2006 Members Share Posted March 16, 2006 Originally posted by dZjupp save your money- Elmers Wood Glue, its what i've always used for applying tolex. +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dZjupp Posted March 16, 2006 Members Share Posted March 16, 2006 Originally posted by covertmusic724 on a related note: where's the best place to get tolex? probably just basic black to redo a much "loved" marshall 4x12 caband, is it easy to do? http://www.guitar-parts.com/ i made a marshall BX style cabinet and went through these guys, great service, got my tolex and grilleclothe (checkered) and my cab looks awesome. it is pretty easy to cover something as well. just make sure you sand off the old glue before you apply anything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members NoirAbattoir Posted March 16, 2006 Members Share Posted March 16, 2006 Originally posted by dZjupp save your money- Elmers Wood Glue, its what i've always used for applying tolex. Really? How many times have to tolexed a cab? That would make it really easy to do in my basement without the fumes and all. I have a head I need to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members The Gainster Posted March 16, 2006 Members Share Posted March 16, 2006 PLEASE do not use Elmers or any glue like that!!! It won't tack well and if you ever remove the tolex it will pull the wood off the cab or head!!!!!! Use a waterbase neoprene glue ...that is what Marshall and all the amp builders use... You can thank me later.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members The Great Waldo Pepper Posted March 16, 2006 Members Share Posted March 16, 2006 Originally posted by The Gainster PLEASE do not use Elmers or any glue like that!!! It won't tack well and if you ever remove the tolex it will pull the wood off the cab or head!!!!!! Use a waterbase neoprene glue ...that is what Marshall and all the amp builders use... You can thank me later.... I've tolexed a lot of cabs with waterbased woodglue with great results, Mitch. My faux '63 Super Reverb Brownface was recovered using Elmers Carpenter glue and it looks great after 7 years. But yeah waterbased is probably a good call so you can redo it later. Check out this webpage. It's cool for adheasive nerds. http://www.thistothat.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members The Gainster Posted March 16, 2006 Members Share Posted March 16, 2006 Originally posted by catalinbread I've tolexed a lot of cabs with waterbased woodglue with great results, Mitch. My faux '63 Super Reverb Brownface was recovered using Elmers Carpenter glue and it looks great after 7 years. But yeah waterbased is probably a good call so you can redo it later. Check out this webpage. It's cool for adheasive nerds. http://www.thistothat.com/ That's a cool site 4 sho... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members NoirAbattoir Posted June 21, 2006 Members Share Posted June 21, 2006 Originally posted by The Gainster PLEASE do not use Elmers or any glue like that!!! It won't tack well and if you ever remove the tolex it will pull the wood off the cab or head!!!!!! Use a waterbase neoprene glue ...that is what Marshall and all the amp builders use... You can thank me later.... I should have taken your advice. In case anyone is looking to use wood glue, I highly recommend you don't. Yes, it was without fumes, but there were other problems. I used wood glue and it sucked bigtime. If you layed it on thin it wouldn't stick and hold as you were tolexing. If you layed it on thicker, it would start to ooze and seep to all the edges. Left to sit, puddles of glue would gather at the edges. Either way, it was near impossible to really pull out bubbles. It was a {censored}ing mess. You need something with some real tackiness that will grip the tolex big time. DON'T USE WOOD GLUE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members The Gainster Posted June 21, 2006 Members Share Posted June 21, 2006 Originally posted by ColorsoundKid I should have taken your advice. In case anyone is looking to use wood glue, I highly recommend you don't. Yes, it was without fumes, but there were other problems. I used wood glue and it sucked bigtime. If you layed it on thin it wouldn't stick and hold as you were tolexing. If you layed it on thicker, it would start to ooze and seep to all the edges. Left to sit, puddles of glue would gather at the edges. Either way, it was near impossible to really pull out bubbles. It was a {censored}ing mess. You need something with some real tackiness that will grip the tolex big time. DON'T USE WOOD GLUE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members LongJohnny Posted June 21, 2006 Members Share Posted June 21, 2006 If you have an open area, you really cant beat the stinky, poisonous contact glue. I guy mine at the home depot, and I use it in my garage with a fan blowing right over it. I do use the water soluble neoprene every now and then, as some brands of tolex will delaminate from the backing, and bubble if you use the regular solvent based stuff. Here are some things that you must have if you want to do a good job... single edged razor, or replaceable cartridge blade(nice and sharp)Straight edge(at least the width of your cabinet)rolling pin(makes getting out bubbles really easy)clean surface, like an old carpet so you dont scuff up the tolexSuper Glue with a pipette for seams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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