Members The Tortoise Posted May 19, 2006 Members Share Posted May 19, 2006 Hey all, so I've seen some Orange 4x12s in the 4x12/halfstack thread, and my GAS has been piqued... what is the big deal with these? Is it worth twice the price of most of other 4x12s, no casters and all? I've got a Mesa Traditional 4x12 with V30s, and I'm wondering how much of an upgrade it would be. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members basscracker Posted May 19, 2006 Members Share Posted May 19, 2006 i was using some of these for awhile.they seemed to move alot more air than the other cabs i had tried.had some V30's in em then 12GH30's then greenbacks they were all great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Crook Posted May 19, 2006 Members Share Posted May 19, 2006 Well, they are Orange.Thats all I know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mistersuperfly Posted May 19, 2006 Members Share Posted May 19, 2006 I've heard they are darker... I KNOW they are heavier. Look at how thick the plywood they use is! I, for some reason would choose the Orange if I were looking for a 4x12. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members zinzin Posted May 19, 2006 Members Share Posted May 19, 2006 they look cool as hell. they are heavier than hell. they are very powerfull. they are very expensive. they sound very good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Montag Posted May 19, 2006 Members Share Posted May 19, 2006 yeah, {censored}ers are heavy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members D-drone Posted May 19, 2006 Members Share Posted May 19, 2006 I'm definently in the supporters camp. Picked one up for the same price as a Mesa, at the end of the day it came down to looks. Big clear sound, I haven't owned enough cabs to deduce the real differences in tone but it sounds damn nice. Mesa Dual Rec head sitting on top. No castors as it has what are essential two planks on the bottom for feet rather than rubber. I use a dolly trolley type thing to move it around, makes life a lot easier. Weights only a problem if you have no one to help get it up/down stairs and in or out of cars (its really arkward to lift). Only thing which bothers me a little bit, but I assume its the same with all cabs, is that the tolex appears to rip very easily. From moving it in and out of cars its got a few small (very small, 1-2mm) scratchs in tolex on the sides. I guess orange shows the marks more which may explain it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mistersuperfly Posted May 19, 2006 Members Share Posted May 19, 2006 Orange tolex is really soft for some reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members seifukusha Posted May 19, 2006 Members Share Posted May 19, 2006 doesnt zvex have one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TIKILOCKEDOUT Posted May 19, 2006 Members Share Posted May 19, 2006 If you bought the original Orange cabs from the 70's I'd say go for it but I did allot of research a while ago on modern day cabs from various companies and the word that kept coming back from shops selling them and amp guys was that the construction is cheap and they are crappy generally with allot of returns from buyers because {censored} kept falling off them ... tolex peeling away ... poor assembly. Looking pretty ain't always sounding pretty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ollenorin Posted May 19, 2006 Members Share Posted May 19, 2006 theyre heavy....i once carried one by myself down the stairs and about 50 metres after that....my back turned into a cheesedoodle.....took me 4 weeks to recover. they punch out great bass.....i like the angled one better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Tonemeister87 Posted May 19, 2006 Members Share Posted May 19, 2006 Originally posted by zinzin they look cool as hell. they are heavier than hell. they are very powerfull. they are very expensive. they sound very good. Great post! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members preservation Posted May 19, 2006 Members Share Posted May 19, 2006 there's a huge difference b/w old Orange products and new ones... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members stompboxx Posted May 19, 2006 Members Share Posted May 19, 2006 I had a 70s one with Celsetion G12H speakers (i think)...it was amazing...really clear and made every head sound amazing...in comparison a new recto cab sounded really muddy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 68CUSTOMLESPAUL Posted May 19, 2006 Members Share Posted May 19, 2006 I have one and let me tell you they are worth every penny. My buddy has a 1960av and this thing just kills it. Not to mention it looks cool as hell. No joke they are awesome and they are still the same quality as years past. The reason they sound "darker" if you will is because those planks couple the cab to the stage. Try one and I think you will enjoy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ollenorin Posted May 19, 2006 Members Share Posted May 19, 2006 Originally posted by preservation there's a huge difference b/w old Orange products and new ones... explain...how many new orange products have you tried and how many old ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TIKILOCKEDOUT Posted May 19, 2006 Members Share Posted May 19, 2006 Originally posted by 68CUSTOMLESPAUL ... and they are still the same quality as years past. Well blow me down ... the top amp repair guys in my town and guys I know in stores around the place selling them must be completely wrong! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 68CUSTOMLESPAUL Posted May 19, 2006 Members Share Posted May 19, 2006 Talking about Cabs here Tiki......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TIKILOCKEDOUT Posted May 19, 2006 Members Share Posted May 19, 2006 Originally posted by 68CUSTOMLESPAUL Talking about Cabs here Tiki......... So was I, go back and read my earlier post. The same can be said by those same people of the amps themselves ... the cabs are {censored} - I hear it from all the people worth hearing things from. 70's Orange is not 90's - 2000's Orange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 68CUSTOMLESPAUL Posted May 19, 2006 Members Share Posted May 19, 2006 Well to each his own.......Crate is {censored},Orange is far from that, but hey what do i know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TIKILOCKEDOUT Posted May 19, 2006 Members Share Posted May 19, 2006 Originally posted by 68CUSTOMLESPAUL Well to each his own.......Crate is {censored},Orange is far from that, but hey what do i know? Crate is {censored}, Your kidding right?!!! I guess Olle was curious to know what you know and now that you mention not knowing anything ... tell us what you know about modern Orange compared to 70's Orange and set the record straight if you like. Nobody is going to question good solid info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 68CUSTOMLESPAUL Posted May 19, 2006 Members Share Posted May 19, 2006 I know that my cab is a 2004 model and not only does it look and sound as great as Jeff Worleys orange cab from the 70s its also as heavy. It has the same construction and setup. I can understand how the amps may have lost quality with cheaper parts but the cabs are the same, sitting side by side you cant see hear or feel a difference. You can take that to the bank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TIKILOCKEDOUT Posted May 19, 2006 Members Share Posted May 19, 2006 Hey, thats fine on a purely subjective level but what the pro's in town tell me is the opposite and these guys build amps and sell em and are OLD school - they've seen all the ptp stuff through to modern circuit board amps. I was shown examples of Orange gear by guys who sell it for their bosses and sure they look nice but look closer and it's a different story. If your happy then more power to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 68CUSTOMLESPAUL Posted May 19, 2006 Members Share Posted May 19, 2006 Orange Rocks............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ilovesharinfoo Posted May 19, 2006 Members Share Posted May 19, 2006 I have a '70s Orange 4x12 and a newer 2x12 and both are very nice. The 2x12 seems to be constructed at least as well as the old 4x12. I have had the 2x12 for a couple years now and haven't had a problem with anything. It is a good bit brighter than the 4x12, but it has V30s and is 30 years newer, which probably explains alot of it. In my experience, the new ones are as good as the old ones. I would be happy with either (or both ) And like everyone lese said, they weight ALOT, 2x12 included.Justin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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