Members grumphh Posted April 30, 2007 Author Members Share Posted April 30, 2007 uh huh, Grumphh, youre shooting yourself in the foot here - if all u could get out of this beast is XMod and "80s sounds".. it speaks more about your abilities than about the board itself. no offence, None taken purry, organic VCOs and silky 12dB JP8's filter... Hehe, these last words of yours that i chose to quote are exactly what makes me think that there is too much hype about the JP 8 I do agree that it does have a very nice quality about it, but to my ears it is far to "Roland-like" to justify the expense - since you can get very nice approximations of those sounds from other much cheaper Roland gear. ... and when i say approximations i mean quite close. Close enough to not let me miss the JP 8 The trick to getting good approximations of VCO sounds is to NOT use the plasticky onboard chorus of the subsequent Rolands. That actually makes them sound much more organic. Simple, eh? And as for my love of the JP 4... to me that is an entirely different synth . much rougher (in a good way) than the 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Teoman Posted April 30, 2007 Members Share Posted April 30, 2007 I still insist that the solo part of "Forever Young" is a JP8, and opening pads are JX8P's "Soundtrack". Any comments ? Solo part is definitely JX8P, it is too plastic to be a JP8 actually. I also remember a reading about that. BTW; if you have more JP-8 involved videos, please go on. But, no you can't convince me to buy one... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Teoman Posted April 30, 2007 Members Share Posted April 30, 2007 Animotion 'Obsession' (1980s) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXxHY-ZYiTI This trumpet style brass is my favorite JP-8 tone. It is almost the same as Michael Jackson's ''Thriller'' intro. I am not sure how close I can get to that sound with my A6. But some varieties of this patch can make me compose zillions of music. Any suggestions to rough settings of such a patch is welcome. This tone is actually only obtainable with A6 with certain precision, apart from older Rolands. No CEM/SSM or any other synth is capable of this tone. If its processed thru a vocoder, a pitch shifter or something like that, I can't imagine the result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members gilwe Posted April 30, 2007 Members Share Posted April 30, 2007 Solo part is definitely JX8P, it is too plastic to be a JP8 actually. I also remember a reading about that. Juno 60 ?? I don't believe this is a JX8P in any case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Don Solaris Posted April 30, 2007 Members Share Posted April 30, 2007 Don's demo is very good indeed Haha... Not my demo... don't have JP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Teoman Posted April 30, 2007 Members Share Posted April 30, 2007 Haha... Not my demo... don't have JP After so much GAS, I'm sure you will start thinking about it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members gilwe Posted April 30, 2007 Members Share Posted April 30, 2007 The intro sound 100% like the Soundtrack preset on the JX8P... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members J3RK Posted April 30, 2007 Members Share Posted April 30, 2007 I vote for the TB303 as overrated over the jupiter any day. I disagree. There are a lot of synths that can more or less cover what the JP does. There is nothing like the 303. It may be overrated to you based purely on popularity of an icky plastic box, but it does actually do something unique. It's taken 10s of years for people to make anything that could replicate what it does. (for those who care) I think the JP8 is cool, but as mentioned above, I think the 6 is actually a bit more interesting, and the 8 in my mind is quite overrated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members J3RK Posted April 30, 2007 Members Share Posted April 30, 2007 You guys are kidding.... the CS80 is one fuc&*&ing beautiful monster synth with one of the most gorgeous sound ever ! I'd probably lean toward its performance features and expressiveness over the actual sound. I think it sounds good, but I think it's more due to these features, and the musicians that make use of them over the tones it generates. I guess that still makes it a pretty cool synth though, provided you can make use of what it has to offer in the way of expression. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members J3RK Posted April 30, 2007 Members Share Posted April 30, 2007 Regardless of the ongoing which-is-better wars, thanks for the music link! Brings back memories of some early '90's Amiga Psygnosis games I used to play, Barbarian, Shadow of the Beast, Leander, Nitro, and my all-time favorite: Amnios! Garvan Corbett was my hero back then (no he didn't do music ). Nice! Those were some of my favorites as well. Those and the Factor 5 games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MuzikB Posted April 30, 2007 Members Share Posted April 30, 2007 The trick to getting good approximations of VCO sounds is to NOT use the plasticky onboard chorus of the subsequent Rolands. That actually makes them sound much more organic. Simple, eh? This is the last time I'm going to tell you to stop revealing ancient Japanese secrets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members grumphh Posted May 1, 2007 Author Members Share Posted May 1, 2007 This is the last time I'm going to tell you to stop revealing ancient Japanese secrets. I am ashamed and to honour the ancient code of synth wisdom i will now commit seppuku by having a trusted friend repeatedly smashing a JP8 over my head and neck. Sayonara! ... that is, if i could find one - otherwise i will just have to live in shame... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dereksljuka Posted May 1, 2007 Members Share Posted May 1, 2007 If the Jup 8 is overrated, then it's not as overrated as the Minimoog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Malekko Posted May 1, 2007 Members Share Posted May 1, 2007 There are a lot of "overrated" synths out there...the Jupiter 8 is NOT one of them. Infact, i'll go as far as to say it is the ONLY roland piece that isnt... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members poumtschak Posted May 1, 2007 Members Share Posted May 1, 2007 Here's a JP-8 only demotune, done by Push-Pull, the very same guy who did the excellent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MarkShovel2 Posted May 1, 2007 Members Share Posted May 1, 2007 Last Summer, I tested a Jupiter-8 for my brother. I got to play it for about ten minutes. The keyboard is very high quality. The keys have very nice action. The sound is amazing. Keep in mind I own several classics mentioned in this thread (OB-XA, OB-8, Juno-60, JX-10, and many more). MAJOR MOJO in the Jupiter-8! Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members morten'J Posted May 1, 2007 Members Share Posted May 1, 2007 Harold Faltermeyer Axel F main lead I think is from a Roland Jupiter 8.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxPhYBweYBk Jan hammer's Crokett's theme I think the Strings is From Jupiter 8. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Umbra Posted May 1, 2007 Members Share Posted May 1, 2007 If the Jup 8 is overrated, then it's not as overrated as the Minimoog.You forgot every modular ever created as being more overrated as well. Personally I'd love to have a Jup 8 more for a collection item than actually for making music though. It looks purdy and it has tradition, what else do you need? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members wetwareinterface Posted May 1, 2007 Members Share Posted May 1, 2007 Duran DuranHoward JonesEurythmicsNik KershawTalk TalkThomas DolbyMicheal JacksonSimple MindsGo Westfor all (I think), the Jupiter 8 was a main part of their sound. nopeduran used jp 4 mostly and the jp 8 was just for bread and butter stuffeurythmics used the juno 60 on sweet dreams et al not jp8dolby owned every damn synth out and used a ton of stuff so no stand out jp8simple minds sound was pretty tame so maybe a jp 8go west used one but had it run through tons of effects and eq'd it to sound better on we close our eyes best 80's example of the jp8 and it's cheesy sound is journey. they used it all over their crap. and yeah i much prefer the sound of the jp6 or even the 4 over the 8. the jp8 sounds like a tame jx8. the jp6 filter gets much nastier than the 8.and yes I have played both the 8 and the 6.in fact right now the studio I share with a friend has a 6 in it. and the juno 60 and a rev 2 prophet 5. the prophet was a much more capable synth than the jp8 except for the 3 voices of poly the prophet kicks it's ass. if your looking for a great poly from that time the 6 is better and the prophet is better yet and the matrix is best of the three. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members wetwareinterface Posted May 1, 2007 Members Share Posted May 1, 2007 Here's a JP-8 only demotune, done by Push-Pull, the very same guy who did the excellent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members flat earth Posted May 1, 2007 Members Share Posted May 1, 2007 nope duran used jp 4 mostly and the jp 8 was just for bread and butter stuff eurythmics used the juno 60 on sweet dreams et al not jp8 dolby owned every damn synth out and used a ton of stuff so no stand out jp8 simple minds sound was pretty tame so maybe a jp 8 go west used one but had it run through tons of effects and eq'd it to sound better on we close our eyes So they still mostly used one then BTW In an interview with Nick Rhodes, he said the Jupiter 8 was one of his favourite synthesizers. Bread & butter sounds? What? Nicks the first person mentioned associated with the JP8. Its sounds and Arps are all over his music. Im a major fan of Thomas Dolby, and know he used the JP8 extensivly in his wonderful music. Check many live videos from the 80s (One of our Submarines etc) There he is playing it through out the song. 2:23 JP8 Solo I would agree the JP6 is a great synth, i may get one soon, but its sound charactor is quite different from the JP8. I wouldnt call it better or worse, just different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members clusterchord Posted May 1, 2007 Members Share Posted May 1, 2007 if your looking for a great poly from that time the 6 is better and the prophet is better yet and the matrix is best of the three. know your history then - Jupiter 6 wasn't even used in like 95% of synth pop/new wave that counts. sorry bro, it was mostly over when jup6 hit the stores. and even then, most jp8 users complained its not as huge sounding. listen to recordings and read old keyboard magazines its all there in black n white. not until techno and acid in early 90s, did the cutting, ripping sound of Jup6 resurfaced into much use. that's why ebay is full of jp6's in mint condition, whereas JP8's have seen a lot of action, and are harder to come by, esp in cosmetic mint shape. i agree JP6 has a more agressive filter, its all been said a zillion times, yet what is "better" is subjective. for Rolandese sound i prefer richness of JP8's filter, and if i do want agressive i like full-cem sound, and engage my OBXA that, truth be told, wipes the floor with Jup6. Rev2 Prophet is a beautiful machine agreed, but imo does not replace Jup8, and vice versa. however, funny u mention it, as Rev2 together with Jup8 and OB-X is trio of my all time favorite polysynths.(i was lucky enough to obtain them all). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members CoolColJ Posted May 16, 2007 Members Share Posted May 16, 2007 A bit later to the party, but here are some dry mp3s from my JP8a I put a while back for another forum nothing sounds like it, but it can get a bit samey http://www.members.optushome.com.au/coolcolj2/JP8/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dereksljuka Posted May 16, 2007 Members Share Posted May 16, 2007 i agree JP6 has a more agressive filter, its all been said a zillion times, yet what is "better" is subjective. for Rolandese sound i prefer richness of JP8's filter, and if i do want agressive i like full-cem sound, and engage my OBXA that, truth be told, wipes the floor with Jup6. But... but... the JP6 is actually affordable.... and it has more sonic potential and modulation capabilities than the OB-XA. I'm considering picking one up as my first synth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members gilwe Posted May 16, 2007 Members Share Posted May 16, 2007 For mw the JP6 falls between the JP8 and OBXa... I don't like Rolands which are CEM based too much. If you think CEM go OB, if you think classic Roland filters than JP8 is your best choice ! Still looking for a non functioning JP8 btw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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