Members dangerous dan Posted September 2, 2007 Members Share Posted September 2, 2007 I was just browing the Behringer Website (don't ask why !!) and found the price lists Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members alteredsounds Posted September 2, 2007 Members Share Posted September 2, 2007 sup Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members OldCrankyDouche Posted September 2, 2007 Members Share Posted September 2, 2007 That list is funny. It says that the TU100 tuner price is 29.99 USD, but I just got mine for $24 SHIPPED. Or are these list prices? If they are, I imagine you could probably knock about 30% off the top for a good estimate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members PurpleStrat Posted September 2, 2007 Members Share Posted September 2, 2007 Street price $69.99 http://www.studica.com/products/product_detail.cfm?productid=53481 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members olejason Posted September 2, 2007 Members Share Posted September 2, 2007 Yeah it'll be $70 - 75. I believe the big 'tube monster' or whatever is the same list and it retails for about that. I doubt we'll see that pedal anytime soon though. Maybe Jan or Feb next year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MoreGuitars Posted September 2, 2007 Members Share Posted September 2, 2007 Street price $69.99 http://www.studica.com/products/product_detail.cfm?productid=53481 That price in unbeliveable. I wonder how it sounds? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BmoreTele Posted September 2, 2007 Members Share Posted September 2, 2007 This could be the make or break pedal for Behringer with gear nuts. At this point folks are willing to accept that some of the Behringer clones are reasonable cheap substitutes - like the VB-2 clone, or a mod box to throw in an fx loop or take to a gig at a dive. If the VMT is even close to the DMM, Behringer will be able to coast on that success for years. If everybody who buys one hates it, they could be toast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members PurpleStrat Posted September 2, 2007 Members Share Posted September 2, 2007 This could be the make or break pedal for Behringer with gear nuts. At this point folks are willing to accept that some of the Behringer clones are reasonable cheap substitutes - like the VB-2 clone, or a mod box to throw in an fx loop or take to a gig at a dive. If the VMT is even close to the DMM, Behringer will be able to coast on that success for years. If everybody who buys one hates it, they could be toast. True. If it is even 75% the sound quality as DMM they have a hit! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Fender&EHX4ever Posted September 2, 2007 Members Share Posted September 2, 2007 True. If it is even 75% the sound quality as DMM they have a hit! L6SGuy and I had a debate over Behringer not long ago. I don't want to rehash the debate, because he made some good points; but I do want to say that I hope that Behringer will finally get off its coat-tail riding arse and make something unique of their own. Jeez, can't they at least make the box look a little different from the original? It's so f*cking blatant. Sorry, I usually don't like leaving negative posts, but I couldn't resist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members L6Sguy Posted September 3, 2007 Members Share Posted September 3, 2007 ^without getting into it too deep again, the sheer # of strat/tele/LP/335/PRS/flying V/explorer guitars out there evince quite clearly that the market at large is very willing to accept ({censored}, even pay more for) items that are, even strictly from just a cosmetic standpoint, pure xeroxing.dont let it get you so down, man. not saying its good, bad, whatever. just that it is, and that the numbers fully back it up.ethics and stuff are good on tv shows, but in anything including both the words 'music' and 'business,' well, to expect anything less than theivery, duplicating, xeroxing, etc is just an exercise in denial Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members melx Posted September 3, 2007 Members Share Posted September 3, 2007 the irony is of course that EHX are now moving away from massive great boxes, why? because it's what (most) people wanted. I wonder if Behringer have messed up a bit here? wouldn't it have been better to make a smaller pedal that looked a bit more unique? I wonder if people will be selling 'fender headstock' type transfers to put on these!! Memory man waterslide transfer for your behringer!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members olejason Posted September 3, 2007 Members Share Posted September 3, 2007 I think as long as it will self-oscillate and pitch bend like a real DMM they will sell {censored}loads of them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members olgluefoot Posted September 3, 2007 Members Share Posted September 3, 2007 i remember my local shop had a behringer "something or other" rack unit, that claimed to have a 12ax7 in it.. it really had one.. but behind it were 3 LED's to make it appear to glow.. LOL... lame. But i do like my VAMP2.... i dont trust the "tube monster" lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members damacy Posted September 3, 2007 Members Share Posted September 3, 2007 A status LED for effect On/Off is included, plus there is a true hard-wire bypass for ultimate signal integrity (http://www.behringer.com/VM1/index.cfm?lang=eng).true hard-wire bypass? what's it supposed to mean? perhaps it ain't true bypass although they are trying to make it sound like one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members killyridols Posted September 3, 2007 Members Share Posted September 3, 2007 i remember my local shop had a behringer "something or other" rack unit, that claimed to have a 12ax7 in it.. it really had one.. but behind it were 3 LED's to make it appear to glow.. LOL... lame. But i do like my VAMP2.... i dont trust the "tube monster" lol Didn't vox do the same thing with thier ToneLab processors?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Lanefair Posted September 3, 2007 Members Share Posted September 3, 2007 That LED behind the tube thing does sound embarassing, but most tubes don't need to cook that much for the task in hand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members wacopacco Posted September 3, 2007 Members Share Posted September 3, 2007 yea the LED's are just to make it look cool. The tube is still working, but it's not running so hot that it's 'glowing'... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members alteredsounds Posted September 3, 2007 Members Share Posted September 3, 2007 I'm sure it will be a half reasonable cheap delay pedal but it will have no similarities to the EH model except for the visual aspect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Lanefair Posted September 3, 2007 Members Share Posted September 3, 2007 I don't get why people are waiting on the DMM clone. Is it confirmed True bypass? Is it confirmed analogue delay chips? I ask because I don't know. I think some of the mega cheap pedals are worth a look before going near the bigger ones. I just got the vibrato, and although it's far from brilliant, it doesn't really sound 'cheap'. I've heard the flanger too and it sounds great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cdawzrd Posted September 3, 2007 Members Share Posted September 3, 2007 The VP-1 was listed as "true hard-wire bypass" as well and it was not true bypass. It wasn't a momentary-switch boss style bypass, but it was a DPDT switch not 3PDT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MoreGuitars Posted September 3, 2007 Members Share Posted September 3, 2007 [quote name=L6Sguy ethics and stuff are good on tv shows' date=' but in anything including both the words 'music' and 'business,' well, to expect anything less than theivery, duplicating, xeroxing, etc is just an exercise in denial [/quote]Ethics in the music biz is non existent. I have read several books lately including "Hotel California", "Motown: Music, Money, Sex, and Power" along with David Crosby's "Long Time Gone", all good reads, and it confirms that the music industry is full of sharks. Eat or be eaten.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Gremson Posted September 3, 2007 Members Share Posted September 3, 2007 What if this pedal is capable of a rehouse? That's one of the biggest issues with the DMM is that even the circuit board is huge.If this thing sounds anything like a real DMM and can be put in a smaller box.Now that's trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Fender&EHX4ever Posted September 3, 2007 Members Share Posted September 3, 2007 Ethics in the music biz is non existent. I have read several books lately including "Hotel California", "Motown: Music, Money, Sex, and Power" along with David Crosby's "Long Time Gone", all good reads, and it confirms that the music industry is full of sharks. Eat or be eaten.... It isn't even a matter of ethics for me. I used to play in a cover band for many years, and I displayed complete irreverance for ethics; so if that were my 'beef', I would be twice the hypocrite. I just find it lame that Behringer hasn't created an original classic with all of the clout they've built up in the industry. They must be making millions as a corporation. Can't they afford a decent D&D team? Or is there a Behringer original out there that I don't know about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members L6Sguy Posted September 3, 2007 Members Share Posted September 3, 2007 It isn't even a matter of ethics for me. I used to play in a cover band for many years, and I displayed complete irreverance for ethics; so if that were my 'beef', I would be twice the hypocrite. I just find it lame that Behringer hasn't created an original classic with all of the clout they've built up in the industry.They must be making millions as a corporation. Can't they afford a decent D&D team? Or is there a Behringer original out there that I don't know about? which issuhr different from buildinganderson strat copies how? which is differentheritage from knocking off LPs?which isboss so differentdigitech from knockingmxr off tubebooteek screamer circuitsfulltone how? does this really just come down to your disappointment in a big copmpany, one that doesnt even know you exist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members L6Sguy Posted September 3, 2007 Members Share Posted September 3, 2007 A status LED for effect On/Off is included, plus there is a true hard-wire bypass for ultimate signal integrity ( http://www.behringer.com/VM1/index.cfm?lang=eng). true hard-wire bypass? what's it supposed to mean? perhaps it ain't true bypass although they are trying to make it sound like one. they are following the path set forth by many, many other companies already. lets give credit where credit is due; behringer is charting no new course on that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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