Members seifukusha Posted September 20, 2007 Members Share Posted September 20, 2007 Electrix Filter Queen FTW the sound of u2's elevation wah...i have an oohwah, but i also like m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members hugbot Posted September 20, 2007 Author Members Share Posted September 20, 2007 Exactly "like" a wah that you just leave on, actually.All a wah is, is a manually sweepable filter. If you leave your foot off of it, it's a fixed filter. That's why I don't miss not having a "fixed" setting on the mu-tron. I have a wah pedal if I want that kind of sound. Yeah, thats what I meant. I have a wah but thats pretty much the only thing I use it for these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Seth Carmody Posted September 20, 2007 Members Share Posted September 20, 2007 what is a stuck filter? Another way of saying stuck wah, as in the treadle of the wah (a BP filter) has become stuck (or purposefully not rocked) leaving your tone "filtered" without any of the sweep you associate with wah use. The Money for Nothing riff is a classic example of the effect. Also, the Chunk Systems Agent00 Funk is meant to be a pretty damn nice filter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Simon Moon Posted September 20, 2007 Members Share Posted September 20, 2007 I have the FM-4, and it works for all of my filter needs. It may not be the best at everything, but it can do so much it makes up for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bieke Posted September 20, 2007 Members Share Posted September 20, 2007 can't go wrong with a Q-Tron, circuit design was by Ed Beigel, who also designed the Mutron III Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members StompboxMan Posted September 20, 2007 Members Share Posted September 20, 2007 I've been messing around with my pedals recently, and I've realised that what I really want is some kind of filter pedal. The Frostwave Resonator is a true analog Filter with High and Low pass filtering. It's based on the analog filter used in the Korg MS-20 synth. It has Level, Balance, HP Freq, LP Freq, LP and HP Resonance controls. Optional CV control inputs for Freq and Resonance. It can do all kinds of Filtering and Drones.This is a Store not the manufactureInfo:www.frostwave.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cdawzrd Posted September 20, 2007 Members Share Posted September 20, 2007 The is no software that will do what a MuRF does. The analog envelope is about the smoothest there is. I know you like pimping Moog, but you're kinda wrong with that one sentence. I can get very close to what the MuRF does by using layered VSTs... that's the nice thing about software, if you have the right stuff you can build just about any effect by combining different components like LFO's, modulators, etc, kinda like how a real analog synth works. No, it's not truly "analog", but the difference in sound is far less noticeable than the difference in cost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SDSMusic Posted September 20, 2007 Members Share Posted September 20, 2007 tubezippertry one.. and tweak it a bitit's my favourite pedal agreed I've been using a call-and-answer type setting on mine lately and its killer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Electric Catfish Posted September 20, 2007 Members Share Posted September 20, 2007 can't go wrong with a Q-Tron, circuit design was by Ed Beigel, who also designed the Mutron IIIIsn't it Mike Beigel?Either way, yeah, the Q-tron has the pedigree, for sure. I've been meaning to try one myself. The micro Q sounds pretty good, but I figure the big one probably has more going on. Aside from just the "wah" effect, the Mu-tron has something else going on...About the only way I know to describe it is "auditory lsd residuals". I've found the "wah" effect in other pedals, but those weird little things that happen are more elusive, apparently. Beigel is very much against the "Mu-tron+" "reissues", though. I've not tried one, but he doesn't have anything good to say about them, so I wouldn't get one. It may have something to do with trade dress, screwing him out of rights (It looks almost just like the orig.), or something to that effect, but either way, they seem like bad mojo, somehow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Zachman Posted September 20, 2007 Members Share Posted September 20, 2007 Were you meaning an amp's f/x loop? I don't have one of those on any of my amps, actually...I'll probably wind up sending the Mu-tron to have it tb's/calibrated (which I imagine would address any volume matching issues) by the Beigel approved place on the net that I can't remember the name of right now. It's an incredible pedal, but the only times I hook it up are when I'm messing with it specifically. Because of the sheer amount of pedals for a small loop switch system, is what I meant. In order to accommodate a bunch of pedals like you have, a substantial switching system would be required, for max efficiency, not just a small 4 loop for example. BTW a Load box is what I would seriously recommend you check out, if you ever run a W/D type of a configuration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Electric Catfish Posted September 20, 2007 Members Share Posted September 20, 2007 Oh...right on. The few pedals I'm running right now are all TB (except the tuner, which I'm running w/ an a/b box, so it's out of the chain), and there's not enough of them so far to create any significant audible loading. I'm sure there's a little, but not enough to annoy me. I figure if it gets to the point where I do hear a difference, I'll start thinking aobut a buffer (is that what a Load Box is, somehow?) or something to compensate. At the moment, I'm still getting a good, bright signal to my amp, though. I could probably get away with a single looper, JUST for the Mu-tron, and not change the straight signal, too much, but, then there's the volume matching issues that it may or may not have. It would be a wierd coincidence if it wound up being matched, though, I'd think. I can get by without it, live...I'd have to get a different board to accomodate it, anyway. The power supply to that thing is bigger than a lot of pedals... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Zachman Posted September 20, 2007 Members Share Posted September 20, 2007 Oh...right on. The few pedals I'm running right now are all TB (except the tuner, which I'm running w/ an a/b box, so it's out of the chain), and there's not enough of them so far to create any significant audible loading. I'm sure there's a little, but not enough to annoy me. I figure if it gets to the point where I do hear a difference, I'll start thinking aobut a buffer (is that what a Load Box is, somehow?) or something to compensate. At the moment, I'm still getting a good, bright signal to my amp, though. I could probably get away with a single looper, JUST for the Mu-tron, and not change the straight signal, too much, but, then there's the volume matching issues that it may or may not have. It would be a wierd coincidence if it wound up being matched, though, I'd think. I can get by without it, live...I'd have to get a different board to accomodate it, anyway. The power supply to that thing is bigger than a lot of pedals... No the load box is REALLY cool though. check it out: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members decode6 Posted September 20, 2007 Members Share Posted September 20, 2007 Only one can withstand them all: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members kishjor Posted September 20, 2007 Members Share Posted September 20, 2007 look at EHX, MoogFooger, and the studio electronics filter, which I think is the best of them all. Exspensive, but worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members aeon Posted September 21, 2007 Members Share Posted September 21, 2007 I use a Moog MuRF, Bass MuRF, and a Lovetone Meatball. A wah is a filter, but generally not thought of as a filter. Teese Pic Wah here. Other analog filters I have are not in pedal form. cheers, Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members gold_soundz Posted September 21, 2007 Members Share Posted September 21, 2007 If you want the mutron sound, get an EH q-tron plus. Its honestly a better pedal than the mutron. Same envelope filter sound, but with true bypass and an effects loop, and is cheaper and easier to find. Yes, I have tried both. If you want envelope filters, sample and hold effect and a bunch of other filter sounds in a pedal form but don't want the expense of the individual pedals the line 6 filter modeller is decent and not too expensive, though I found some of the sounds to be a bit on the bright side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Electric Catfish Posted September 22, 2007 Members Share Posted September 22, 2007 If you want the mutron sound, get an EH q-tron plus. Its honestly a better pedal than the mutron. Same envelope filter sound, but with true bypass and an effects loop, and is cheaper and easier to find. Yes, I have tried both.If you want envelope filters, sample and hold effect and a bunch of other filter sounds in a pedal form but don't want the expense of the individual pedals the line 6 filter modeller is decent and not too expensive, though I found some of the sounds to be a bit on the bright side. So, does the full sized Q-tron+ sound significantly different than the XO version, I take it? Did you try both it and the Mu-tron through the same amp/with the same guitar? From my (admittedly limited) experience w/ the Q, it didn't sound the same...I've not messed with one much, though. I'd like to sub something else in the mu-tron's place, but the micro q, while it sounded good, wasn't quite there. The full sized q is just as big or bigger than the Mu-tron, though, so I'm not sure there'd be a point.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TJ000 Posted September 22, 2007 Members Share Posted September 22, 2007 check out the Ibanez PM7...more of a phase pedal but does some crazy noises and can also so the z vex seek wah kind of thing for pretty cheap... Should be able to get it for around $50 used or so... tj Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members the dixie dredg Posted September 23, 2007 Members Share Posted September 23, 2007 are there any other options other than the pm7, boss ph3 and digitech hyperphase for that "throw away your television" type of cool step phase? while not getting as expensive as zvex... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members OrangeLazarus Posted September 23, 2007 Members Share Posted September 23, 2007 Robotalk mutha{censored}a. the thing is the {censored}. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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