Members bmast160 Posted December 2, 2008 Members Share Posted December 2, 2008 if you're running a guitar setup in stereo is there a way to simulate a flange sound instead of using a flange pedal? could you use a pedal on just the left or right channel to slightly delay the one channel to create the effect? also isnt a chorus the same as a flange in that they both create a copy of the original sound and put it out of phase a bit...the only difference with the flange is that the degree that it is out of phase fluctuates...right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members NITEFLY182 Posted December 2, 2008 Members Share Posted December 2, 2008 A flanger has feedback which a chorus does not have and the delay times are significantly shorter. Its unlikely that you wll find a delay pedal with delay time short enough to simulate flange. Why the aversion to just using a flanger? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members josh27 Posted December 2, 2008 Members Share Posted December 2, 2008 I use two amps and spin one around on a lazy susan type table. No tap tempo but it sounds good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members chisa Posted December 2, 2008 Members Share Posted December 2, 2008 if you are recording you can just duplicate the track, and stick one a little bit behind the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TomTFS Posted December 2, 2008 Members Share Posted December 2, 2008 Record one onto a reel to reel tape machine and lean on the flange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members orangesix Posted December 2, 2008 Members Share Posted December 2, 2008 go ghetto. get a {censored}ty amp -> put a {censored}ty fan in front of it -> mic the fan -> run the mic into a {censored}ty pa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bmast160 Posted December 2, 2008 Author Members Share Posted December 2, 2008 A flanger has feedback which a chorus does not have and the delay times are significantly shorter. Its unlikely that you wll find a delay pedal with delay time short enough to simulate flange. Why the aversion to just using a flanger? just wanted to see if it could be done without buying a new pedal and i dont want to buy a cheap pedal to get the sound...hoping that i could use one of the good pedals that i have already. i read that flange is just what you'd get if you recorded the same guitar onto two tape recorders at once and during replay, slowed one of them down just a little by putting your finger on the reel...so i was thinking that if i had a stereo setup and was able to slow either the right or left signal down it would be a flange sound. dont some delay pedals have a time knob that delays the original attack by a bit... i think a line 6 verbzilla can even do this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Naterel Posted December 2, 2008 Members Share Posted December 2, 2008 You can get somewhat of a flange with chorus, I do this with my H20's Chorus channel. Its not the craziest Jet sound, its more of a swirl that goes well with massive dirt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members josh27 Posted December 2, 2008 Members Share Posted December 2, 2008 just wanted to see if it could be done without buying a new pedal and i dont want to buy a cheap pedal to get the sound...hoping that i could use one of the good pedals that i have already. i read that flange is just what you'd get if you recorded the same guitar onto two tape recorders at once and during replay, slowed one of them down just a little by putting your finger on the reel...so i was thinking that if i had a stereo setup and was able to slow either the right or left signal down it would be a flange sound. dont some delay pedals have a time knob that delays the original attack by a bit...i think a line 6 verbzilla can even do this there are some cheap DOD flangers that sound pretty good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SpectralJulian Posted December 2, 2008 Members Share Posted December 2, 2008 fart into a mic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jorhay1 Posted December 2, 2008 Members Share Posted December 2, 2008 A flanger has feedback which a chorus does not have and the delay times are significantly shorter. doesn't the delay have to have a bit of modulation on it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MrNixon Posted December 2, 2008 Members Share Posted December 2, 2008 timefactor can flange w/the tape echo setting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Captain Commie Posted December 2, 2008 Members Share Posted December 2, 2008 I use two amps and spin one around on a lazy susan type table. No tap tempo but it sounds good.thats a leslie... No I'd do as mentioned above, if you want a flange bust open your recording software and delay two of the same tracks in a range of roughly 5 to ten miliseconds to induce flanging. Anything more and you will be moving into chorus range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members hooya Posted December 2, 2008 Members Share Posted December 2, 2008 go ghetto. get a {censored}ty amp -> put a {censored}ty fan in front of it -> mic the fan -> run the mic into a {censored}ty pa More of a trem sound, but I LOVE the idea! Like some sort of ghetto avant garde McGuyver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bmast160 Posted December 2, 2008 Author Members Share Posted December 2, 2008 timefactor can flange w/the tape echo setting. what about the tape echo on a dl4? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members NITEFLY182 Posted December 2, 2008 Members Share Posted December 2, 2008 just wanted to see if it could be done without buying a new pedal and i dont want to buy a cheap pedal to get the sound...hoping that i could use one of the good pedals that i have already. i read that flange is just what you'd get if you recorded the same guitar onto two tape recorders at once and during replay, slowed one of them down just a little by putting your finger on the reel...so i was thinking that if i had a stereo setup and was able to slow either the right or left signal down it would be a flange sound. dont some delay pedals have a time knob that delays the original attack by a bit...i think a line 6 verbzilla can even do this Sounds like either way you will be buying a pedal to accomplish the goal. Flanger pedals are readily available in many styles. A delay pedal that would only delay the signal by fractions of a millisecond doesn't exist and you would have to modulate it with an LFO. You would also only get the ideal effect at a very specific place in front of the amps through air mixing of the effect. Its a neat idea that just doesn't work out in real life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MrNixon Posted December 2, 2008 Members Share Posted December 2, 2008 what about the tape echo on a dl4? 2 DL4s in parallel probably would, if you could set the wow/flutter on the repeats. i've never really owned a dl4, only borrowed a friends...but i do believe that there is a control function for wow/flutter, unless it was for modulation... cant really remember what the other controls were on them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Collapse Posted December 2, 2008 Members Share Posted December 2, 2008 If you've got a DD-20 you can put it on modulate and set the delay time very short. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members petejt Posted December 2, 2008 Members Share Posted December 2, 2008 if you are recording you can just duplicate the track, and stick one a little bit behind the other. I tried that and it just phase-cancels the signal, making it thin. It's a tricky process if you're going to do it that way. It's not the same as playing two tapes together and pushing on the flanged bit of the head & reel (hence the term FLANGER effect) to slow it down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members petejt Posted December 2, 2008 Members Share Posted December 2, 2008 If you've got a DD-20 you can put it on modulate and set the delay time very short. That will get a really nice watery chorus effect, but not really a flanger effect. I have it as a preset- sounds great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Collapse Posted December 2, 2008 Members Share Posted December 2, 2008 I sold my DD-20 so I can't go check it, but you can definitely set it to get a really decent flange sound. I think I set the delay time a little longer than the chorus and maxed the depth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members petejt Posted December 2, 2008 Members Share Posted December 2, 2008 You can get somewhat of a flange with chorus, I do this with my H20's Chorus channel. Its not the craziest Jet sound, its more of a swirl that goes well with massive dirtAnd sounds GREAT!!! [YOUTUBE]hNQOxD9pr8g[/YOUTUBE] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members woogles Posted December 2, 2008 Members Share Posted December 2, 2008 play in a jet engine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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