Members Uncle_Milton Posted December 21, 2008 Members Share Posted December 21, 2008 Digitech Hardwire - I was told these are as acurate as the pitch black, but I have no real evidence to support that. Cheepest Korg Pitchblack + - Cheeper than the peterson, very accurate Peterson Strobestomp - Heard it's the best, and I will never need another tuner ever again. What are your recommendations? Will I be satisfied with the less expensive options or would you suggest I just go for the Peterson and be done with it? I'm not someone who has to have the best {censored} out there, I just want something that will be good enough, to last me for pretty much a decade. Help MEEEEE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Faldoe Posted December 21, 2008 Members Share Posted December 21, 2008 I have a peterson, the first version I think, the Blue. It works very well and I use it to adjust the intonation on my guitar so it helps out a lot cause it's so accurate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members hooya Posted December 21, 2008 Members Share Posted December 21, 2008 All tuners are going to be equally accurate these days. Generally speaking +/- 1 cent. I'd say get a Korg CA-30, tune your guitar outside of your setup and don't worry about a stomp box tuner. It's $15. Does your guitar go out of tune so often you need to re-tune it all the time? I don't know how good these are: http://accessories.musiciansfriend.com/product/Musicians-Gear-Chromatic-Clip-On-Tuner?sku=500118 but it'll stay out of your loop completely for obvious reasons. Sorry, I've been anti-stomp-box-tuner for a very long time. I just don't see why people spend so much on them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Joey O Posted December 21, 2008 Members Share Posted December 21, 2008 Add THIS to your list. I've never tried one but a lot of people think this is a Strobostomp killer. It's relatively cheap, small and is supposed to be very well built and accurate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Secret Seasons Posted December 21, 2008 Members Share Posted December 21, 2008 yup, turbotuner FTW i use the pitchblack and it suits my needs just fine though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cdawzrd Posted December 21, 2008 Members Share Posted December 21, 2008 All tuners are going to be equally accurate these days. Generally speaking +/- 1 cent. False. Also, +1 on TurboTuner. Or, Pitchblack if you can't afford it. Skip the hardwire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members hooya Posted December 21, 2008 Members Share Posted December 21, 2008 False.Also, +1 on TurboTuner. Or, Pitchblack if you can't afford it. Skip the hardwire. Citation? OK, maybe Qwiktunes aren't that good. I don't know if I've ever used a tuner worse than +/- 1 cent though. You know that the pitch of a plucked guitar string will change up to 3 cents over the course of it's decay, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Naterel Posted December 21, 2008 Members Share Posted December 21, 2008 Does anyone know if the Hardwire is using the tact switch switching system like the old Digitech pedals? How important is a buffer in a tuner pedal? Why not just put the amp on standby, turn around without saying anything for the 3 minutes it takes to tune like Hooya says and whats for dinner??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members hooya Posted December 21, 2008 Members Share Posted December 21, 2008 Glad I'm not the only one. But does it really take you 3 minutes to tune? Really, $100 for a tuner.... Aren't you all saving up for Klons? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members erksin Posted December 21, 2008 Members Share Posted December 21, 2008 Add THIS to your list. I've never tried one but a lot of people think this is a Strobostomp killer. It's relatively cheap, small and is supposed to be very well built and accurate. I have one and it indeed is a SS killer, I flipped my SS the day after I got my ST-200.Super accurate, very fast tracking, and built like a brick {censored}house. If you don't need the DI capability of the SS, then I'd definitely recommend it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Naterel Posted December 21, 2008 Members Share Posted December 21, 2008 Glad I'm not the only one. But does it really take you 3 minutes to tune?Really, $100 for a tuner.... Aren't you all saving up for Klons? Depends on the riffage I just laid down. I wish Gibson would tell people to change those Kluson always out of {censored}ing tune tuning keys Deluxe my ass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ermghoti II Posted December 21, 2008 Members Share Posted December 21, 2008 Citation? +/- 1 cent is crap. The internal timing generator is calibrated at the factory to maintain a precision of Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Dolf Posted December 21, 2008 Members Share Posted December 21, 2008 Add THIS to your list. I've never tried one but a lot of people think this is a Strobostomp killer. It's relatively cheap, small and is supposed to be very well built and accurate. ...I want one of those to replace my TU-2 so bad. I need every inch of space I can get on the PT Jr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ermghoti II Posted December 21, 2008 Members Share Posted December 21, 2008 Does anyone know if the Hardwire is using the tact switch switching system like the old Digitech pedals? The Hardwire pedals are all true bypass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members needleTOink Posted December 21, 2008 Members Share Posted December 21, 2008 PITCHBLACK! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Naterel Posted December 21, 2008 Members Share Posted December 21, 2008 The Hardwire pedals are all true bypass. I know, you didnt answer the question tho Anyone? momma? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ermghoti II Posted December 21, 2008 Members Share Posted December 21, 2008 Uh, the answer is spectacularly obvious: it's easier to step on a pedal. Since it's easier, you're more likely to do it. If you're doing it more often, your closer to being in tune more often. If you're in tune, you sound better. If you sound better, you get better gigs. If you get better gigs, you prod higher quality poon (or ride higher quality rod, depending on your preference). Probably stew, since the weather sucks. I miss anything else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Teahead Posted December 21, 2008 Members Share Posted December 21, 2008 I have one and it indeed is a SS killer, I flipped my SS the day after I got my ST-200.Super accurate, very fast tracking, and built like a brick {censored}house. If you don't need the DI capability of the SS, then I'd definitely recommend it. Agree with all of what erksin says here. I just gave my Strobostomp away last week to a good buddy, the Turbo Tuner is excellent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members hooya Posted December 21, 2008 Members Share Posted December 21, 2008 ermghoti II: Again, the pitch of a plucked guitar string changes more than 1 cent over the course of its decay, so it doesn't matter how accurate your tuner is, there is no such thing as a perfectly in tune guitar. Hell, the amount of pressure you apply to the strings with your left hand effects pitch more than the accuracy of that tuner reports. (something I've never seen in any other tuner, even the Pitchblack only states +/- 1) Since that's the case, I argue against spending $130 on a tuner. That's all. Now, your most recent response, saying that it's purely for convenience is more convincing. Again though, I'll be inconvenienced a tiny bit in this case for $70-115 price difference and a spot on my pedalboard. I will again argue that a properly set up instrument shouldn't lose it's tune over the course of a set unless you are using some brootalz level force with your right hand, in which case, again, the pitch of the string is changing due to the force you strike it at, and so intonation is going to be a bit whack anyway. I get it, I understand why people like pedal tuners for the convenience factor. But if you really want convenience, install one of these: for the same price as a Pitchblack. Then you won't even need your pedalboard or your ears to be in tune! Although it's a whole crappy +/-2 cents accuracy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TomCTC Posted December 21, 2008 Members Share Posted December 21, 2008 I don't like the size of the Peterson, or the fact that it's only a strobe tuner. I'm sure it's great but the Pitchblack is the tuner, really. They did everything perfectly right with that one. Throw away your other stuff and get the Korg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Naterel Posted December 21, 2008 Members Share Posted December 21, 2008 Rack Tuner? perhaps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SteinbergerHack Posted December 21, 2008 Members Share Posted December 21, 2008 I use one of the older Korg rackmount tuners. It's on top of my amp, run through the FX loop. I can see it from anywhere on stage, and when I kick it into the circuit, the amp sound dies, so I have silent tuning at will.Works like a champ, and it's been going strong for over a decade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members foxguitar Posted December 21, 2008 Members Share Posted December 21, 2008 whats wrong with the hardwire ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Zoidberg Posted December 21, 2008 Members Share Posted December 21, 2008 I find the PitchBlack to be an excellent tuner. Works sweetly for my needs. I can't say anything about the others tho, have never tried them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Secret Seasons Posted December 21, 2008 Members Share Posted December 21, 2008 whats wrong with the hardwire ??? nothing, but the pitchblack is smaller and $10 cheaper and will likely do anything the hardwire can do too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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